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    Quote Originally posted by Elbie View Post
    the ambassador of the ambassador?

    it's totally up to you who you feel you can speak for. i choose to rely on original sources every time possible.. this is an easy case because he, the ambassador1, speaks a lot and based on what he says i maintain he is faux. i offered some of the reasons in my previous post.

    as per usual, it's best to use one's own discernment, which is what i do too.

    makes me disappointed you find that offnsive..if you do.
    Not offended.
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    What bothers me slightly is that we all know that China is taking over from the US ( in general ).

    I'd never contemplated on how that would look until the Red dragons almost snatched Rad's hand off as soon as he popped up on the youtube circuit.

    I know that isn't at all any evidence for anything malevolent ( from a western spoilt brat perspective ), but, it really does make wonder what the affectations of the shift are supposed to look like.

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    Quote Originally posted by Milneman View Post
    So I have a question Modwiz!

    Is there any links between this organization and the Ministry of State Security (China)?

    I'm also curious. On the *cough* other forum *cough* a group of people "Lifechanyuan" are creating a socialist utopian community within Communist China. You've made remarks about the tremendous efforts the Chinese government is making to clean up their act. Why, then, is the Chinese Government repeatedly attacking a group which has, for all intense of purpose, created Marx's "Classless Society" if for only that it is only demonstrating the poor job the government of China is actually doing? As well, does the change in Russian society include or exclude the gross mistreatment of members of the LGBT community, who are still being actively beaten, tortured, and oppressed within their own country?

    I see a conflict here. Unfortunately it makes me take it "down a stair or two."

    Also, Would it not serve the Ambassador's purposes better if the organization he represents uses the funds that are in such vast supply to buy up controlling interests in the companies which are being rated as destructive, thereby effecting positive change from within said companies, treating workers more fairly, etc?

    Not that paying off vast amounts of mortgages and helping people to eat better food isn't a bad idea. I'm just...suspect of the direction this takes given it helps so few people when a more rational, more well thought out use of funds could in fact create vast swaths of intellectual, moral, and financial changes in a relatively short period of time.
    Give me a well written plan for the use of these funds and I will look at it and pass it up if workable. Funds have been given for years and much of it disappears. That is why a new path is being devised. Food stamps are funded by "the Family". Only a small portion gets to the destination.

    The other issues are not mine to worry about. China is no longer Marxist, just one party. Something I fully appreciate. Two or more parties working for different paths make a mush of things. I hope Putin can stay in place for the foreseeable future. The disinfo regarding alternative lifestyles is much overblown. I see the rot that comes from putting too much focus on any issue besides general human rights. Politically created sub-divisions are not needed. Human rights for all with respect for all parties involved. Pushing agendas of any lifestyle is distasteful. Live your life and don't need a parade for it.

    Much of the slop that passes for gubmint is because of multi-party systems that change every few years with a zig-zag trajectory. Parliaments also blame each other for failures. It is a set-up for dysfunction. Governing ourselves is a joke. I remember members requesting mods to ban me from a thread. So much for self-governance, eh?

    Getting into the middle of changing the world for the better has been an education and eye-opener. As Winston Churchill said, "Those who think democracy is a good idea have obviously not met the voters". Many people that vote are unable to manage their own affairs through repeated poor choices. That same decision making finds its way to the polls.
    Add carefully chosen puppets to vote for and you have a totally fake system run by oligarchs both known and unknown.

    Not looking for agreement, just being clear where I stand, at this time. I am not selling anything, I am delivering an important message that will be heard or ignored. Either way I have done my due diligence in making people aware of the tectonic shifts, for the better, taking place.

    One can always stay in their own country and enjoy waht they can there. No invasions are coming. Other than the immigrants being purposefully brought into established cultures to break them by the cabal. The cabal fully endorses LGBT and their agendas. Guess you have what you are looking for with them.

    I did not answer every point because this is work and tedious for me. I have a comment section on my you tube to manage as well. So, I do not care to work on refining this. Let it stand and accept it or not.
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    Quote Originally posted by norman View Post
    What bothers me slightly is that we all know that China is taking over from the US ( in general ).

    I'd never contemplated on how that would look until the Red dragons almost snatched Rad's hand off as soon as he popped up on the youtube circuit.
    LOL. They have a serious talent search going on.
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    3.Loans are contracts, not loans, and will include language that excuses people from having to honor commitments they cannot possibly keep. Like Common Law contracts.
    That sounds good. I was wondering what the terms were. I hope contracts are relatively easy to understand.

    *

    Ideas

    1) It might help to have a designated thread for updates. At the moment, people don't always have time to read the comments on Youtube videos and listen to 25 minute updates. They are normally interesting but some people prefer bullet points. Written updates on a thread might save everyone time, and cut down on your email inflow.

    2) Apart from the FB group, there's no forum for people to connect with each other. Right now the discussion is spread across multiple video comments sections. Good points are getting drowned out in the drama + crossfire. Setting up a couple of threads for people to meet each other might let people connect, and cut down on your emails again. I heard at one point you were refusing submissions and deleting emails as they came in.

    I have done volunteer work in some finance organisations on and off for a while, so I know some funding programs are real. But I can see why viewers are so jaded... Anyway, I hope something good comes of this.
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    Firstly I / me am not putting a personal bias on this. Just understand how others may perceive the presentation.
    "There are many benevolent organisations" I assume you mean charities?
    No, but they sometimes work through charities. They're currently partially blocked from operating more openly because of the geopolitical situation. It's not easy. Some groups have been trying to set up a new financial system since before the Titanic sunk...

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    Quote Originally posted by Contact Point View Post
    That sounds good. I was wondering what the terms were. I hope contracts are relatively easy to understand.

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    1) It might help to have a designated thread for updates. At the moment, people don't always have time to read the comments on Youtube videos and listen to 25 minute updates. They are normally interesting but some people prefer bullet points. Written updates on a thread might save everyone time, and cut down on your email inflow.

    2) Apart from the FB group, there's no forum for people to connect with each other. Right now the discussion is spread across multiple video comments sections. Good points are getting drowned out in the drama + crossfire. Setting up a couple of threads for people to meet each other might let people connect, and cut down on your emails again. I heard at one point you were refusing submissions and deleting emails as they came in.

    I have done volunteer work in some finance organisations on and off for a while, so I know some funding programs are real. But I can see why viewers are so jaded... Anyway, I hope something good comes of this.
    Contracts do not come with pre-defined terms. They originate with the two negotiating parties in an organic common law fashion. This is revolutionary or paradigm shifting. The idea was put forth by Ron Van Dyke and adopted within an hour of the video release to form the structure of project contract funding investment. The investment is in people and their ideas that build a new network. One that is open to all parties to participate.

    I have a thread here that has been following this story for some time now. It is a quiet thread. Much preferable to contention. This subject brings up all kinds of "demons" in people and I am no excorcist.

    A quiet narrative has been pleasant. Corey took some of the heat off. I feel for him and some of the questions asked of him. He has been admirable in his comportment.
    http://jandeane81.com/threads/5267-A...#post841906718
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    OK the update is interesting...

    Rough Bullet Points- Latest Vid:

    NOTE: These are my bullet points for my own use, not meant to represent Modwiz' words.

    Modwiz: I prefer my own work to speak for me and not be reduced to bullet points for easier consumption. Only deeper comprehension can keep confusion to a minimum.

    Highly recommend listening to the video as you will get a much deeper idea of the process.

    - 0-5 mins. Elevator pitch discussion. Follows from Gwen's workshops.

    - 5min. They 'need' projects now. An exciting time. On the 'cusp' of a new phase.

    - Things will ramp up in May, around the middle of the month. IMF will come out with basket of currencies.

    - 6mins. Comments on Zerohedge.

    - 5-7min. Stockmarket is smoke + mirrors.

    - 6:50 Israel applies for to enter AIIB. An effective surrender, as predicted by the RDA.

    - 7mins. Yuan will be included in the new basket of currencies.

    - 8mins. Many new developments underway. Things are changing behind the scenes. No current updates given as they don't want a 'peanut gallery' of commentators.

    - 8.30 IMF are surrendering 'behind the scenes' so they and other oligarchs can 'save face'

    - 9min. IMF will become more benevolent because the entire 'game' is changing. They will have to align with the more benevolent direction or step out of the game.

    - 9:30min Webinar coming out soon...April 5th workshop coming up.

    - 11min. Ambassador is busy and doesn't always like to talk on vids.

    - 11:57 Modwiz is excited for humanity and joyful that we're on the cusp.

    - 12:45- You will get immediate feedback on your pitch in the charity workshops. It's a process with a followup. The fee includes lawyer time. Good value for money from a money/legal perspective.

    - 14:32 - Updates are coming, people will be kept in the loop.

    - 15:35. Food production + delivery is HUGE. (NOTE: Good to hear) Projects may develop organically. Look for local collaborators and drivers/restaurants etc.

    16:30 Awake and Aware people will be able to find work in projects.

    End: " The avenues and possibilities opening up are pretty much endless and only limited by ones creativity."
    NOTE: Fascinating update with a good signal to noise ratio.

    NOTE, Again: This represents my own quick notes on the vid. It is not supposed to represent Modwiz exact words.
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    Quote Originally posted by Contact Point View Post
    OK the update is interesting...
    I cannot sign-off on your bullet points and because of language use have to declare it unholy because it is not how I would word it. Please qualify it as your take and how you see it. I cannot bless it. I can bless you putting it how you see it. I do not see it as antagonistic either. Want to be clear about every part so as to not be connected to distortions of my word intent when spoken. I understand this distortion can occur even when absolute desire to be clear is the intent.

    I prefer my own work to speak for me and not be reduced to bullet points for easier consumption. Only deeper comprehension can keep confusion to a minimum.

    If your intention was to help, thank you.
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    Of course my intent was to help. I can delete the 'loquacious' note if you want, it just made me laugh so I transcribed it. I didn't swear or curse, just wrote down what you said from my own (rushed) perspective. You are welcome to copy paste the note and just delete what doesn't work.

    Please look at it from the point of view of some of this audience, who have heard maybe 100 hours of 'updates' for 5 years, (from many groups) and are wondering whether they should listen to another video. Skimming the bullet points might help them to work out if they want to spend 17 mins on a video. (IMO, it's worth listening to) It's Saturday/Sunday, people have limited time and are resting, with friends and families to see.

    I'll edit a couple of lines out now. Transcript was done on the fly as I listened.
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    C.P.Imho, written in this way is ok instead of Contact point. but the idea of streamlining Rads work doesn't work for me i'm afraid to say. Interesting concept for the audience say if he was promoting barbecues, BBQS .

    But some issues are far more important than a passing headline format like the base viewing of cnn news , flashing by .
    Rads mission is to reach and educate populaces far and wide in a philosophy and break through a aged old mindset .One day the aim would be to reach the core of society . Anything less than a clear in depth picture and time for thought on the subject is a waist as it would pass by the mind without depth , like a commercial or less.
    It would turn into a circus with b******ized quotes and easy feed for manipulators.
    I do not see how it in the long run be benefit to create a starbucks out of a good Italian coffee.
    As you can see i'm not much into fast food.

    Oh by the way, welcome to tot i don't to recall welcoming you , forgive me.
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    I do not see how it in the long run be benefit to create a starbucks out of a good Italian coffee.
    I see your point, Tonz.. I s'pose the length of the videos may act as a natural filter for half-interested listeners.

    Oh by the way, welcome to tot i don't to recall welcoming you , forgive me.
    My Taipei/Tamsui thread was supposed to be an intro but there was no interest so I dropped it. I may start a real intro thread if I have time. I logged on to contact someone in the same city as me, and read the GoodET threads... Cheers.
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