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    The Abolition of The Monetary System

    This thread arose from the following thread:

    Raju The Elephant Cries While Being Rescued After 50 Years

    http://jandeane81.com/threads/6071-R...#post841906804

    I've been thinking about this story for a couple of days now trying to figure out what bothers me the most.

    Was it the handlers who tormented and tortured this elephant for 50 years?
    Was it the fact there there's a demand for this sort of thing otherwise they wouldn't be using elephants like this?
    What kind of people pay money to get a 'blessing' from a chained and tortured elephant whilst plucking out a hair from its tail for good luck?
    What kind of people 'make a living' fashioning elephant shackles with spikes no less?
    WHY did it take 50 years to rescue this elephant?
    Is this a common practice and is this 'just' another abused elephant?

    Then, I stopped being myopic.
    I started asking myself critical questions as opposed to emotional ones.

    One question I asked myself: what is the main reason behind this kind of cruelty and despicable action by human beings against other living beings -- including themselves -- on this planet?

    It all comes back to making a few bucks. Survival.

    We can literally thank the Cabal for all this -- by keeping all of us enslaved and in survival mode. Here we are, living in fear -- in a world of lack and limitation that they've invented for us.

    Thanks to the monetary system, people will do the most despicable acts. All actions are justifiable for survival, power and control.

    Money is the root of the problem so it can't be used to 'fix' the problems caused by it.

    One slave master rules over and tortures another slave master and on and on it goes. We are all victims.

    What we are seeing here is not 'just' a story of a tortured elephant. This is the story of the torture of all of human kind as well.

    We are sitting on the edge of a 'new world' -- not a 'new world order'. This is a new world that ends control over others, competition and slavery, and begins a new era of equality and equity, compassion and cooperation. There will be no more ownership over anyone or anything as we become custodians of the planet.

    With the abolition of money and all forms of barter and trade, we will cast off our chains.

    Will sharing everything freely solve all our problems? No, of course not. But, it will solve most of them.

    The way I see it, at the moment we're looking at a system that works for the good of all maybe 10% of the time. Let's get it up to 90% or better.


    Who's with me?


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    Everyone shares and gives freely of what they have to those who need?
    Sometimes God shines his magic light beam from outer space, and it works in mysterious ways.

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    Hmmm-- it is interesting to find someone who thinks like I do...

    I am not sure how we can abolish the monetary system because

    we don't all work equally.

    Some of us are lazy.

    It is not fair for a man to work really hard and see his own children do without because

    his neighbor reproduces like a rabbit and doesn't ever work.

    So- some people will always earn more than another person.


    This monetary system we have is more like a counterfeiting operation - those who own the

    printing press don't work - but scam the rest instead.


    So- maybe there is a way to have trade without the counterfeiting part.....

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    I would be fine with that.
    Sometimes God shines his magic light beam from outer space, and it works in mysterious ways.

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    TBH, I am all for abolishing the money system, but I'm also in complete agreement with Mom's assertions.

    I am particularly observed/experienced of/with individuals who possess the same (greater even) capacity to work and be productive (whether for their own sake or for that of a group) but who just don't want to. While I would love for there to be an elimination of the predatory counterfeit system we have, I have a hard time envisioning an alternative that would more effectively encourage (and/or provide consequence for the lack of) mutual and sincere participation.

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    Quote Originally posted by Momlvsducks View Post
    Hmmm-- it is interesting to find someone who thinks like I do...

    I am not sure how we can abolish the monetary system because

    we don't all work equally.

    Some of us are lazy.

    It is not fair for a man to work really hard and see his own children do without because

    his neighbor reproduces like a rabbit and doesn't ever work.

    So- some people will always earn more than another person.


    This monetary system we have is more like a counterfeiting operation - those who own the

    printing press don't work - but scam the rest instead.


    So- maybe there is a way to have trade without the counterfeiting part.....
    Nothing about being alive is 'fair'. We do what we can do because we 'should', not because we have to. This has got nothing to do with the actions of anyone else -- this is about the actions you choose to make for yourself and for others.

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    I am under the impression the pilgrims started out sharing shortly after the Mayflower landed.

    It was the original idea- everybody takes care of everybody else.

    But, it didn't work out for the reasons posted above.

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    Such system would by necessity be founded by those mutually bound to participate. Such potential would first be realized by those voluntarily giving their time and energy, and said effort be in excellence, for such endeavor to percolate into the society at large.
    Sometimes God shines his magic light beam from outer space, and it works in mysterious ways.

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    Quote Originally posted by Shezbeth View Post
    TBH, I am all for abolishing the money system, but I'm also in complete agreement with Mom's assertions.

    I am particularly observed/experienced of/with individuals who possess the same (greater even) capacity to work and be productive (whether for their own sake or for that of a group) but who just don't want to. While I would love for there to be an elimination of the predatory counterfeit system we have, I have a hard time envisioning an alternative that would more effectively encourage (and/or provide consequence for the lack of) mutual and sincere participation.
    Forgive me for standing on my soap box yet again.


    Here are two systems that may work -- separately or in tandem:


    'Resource-based' system: 'The Venus Project' (Jacque Fresco):

    https://www.thevenusproject.com/en/about/resume


    'Contributionist' system: UBUNTU (Michael Tellinger):

    http://www.michaeltellinger.com/ubuntu-cont.php

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    Quote Originally posted by PurpleLama View Post
    Such system would by necessity be founded by those mutually bound to participate. Such potential would first be realized by those voluntarily giving their time and energy, and said effort be in excellence, for such endeavor to percolate into the society at large.
    Precisely.

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    It's good to see you back posting Pris...

    I alway enjoy your perspective,



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    I have not yet read your 2 links Pris.

    But, I wanted to add something.

    There are at least two realities for humans.

    One is in the body, the other is outside of the body.

    In the body we have needs like water, food, shelter, correct temperatures, sunlight.

    Out of the body I think we have no needs, because we think and we have.

    So, maybe we are here to experience working and straining to make a living??

    Kinda like a person gets on a roller coaster, gets terrified, gets off and gets right back on.

    So, maybe learning to aquire our needs fairly is one thing we are to learn here.

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    Quote Originally posted by GoodETxSG View Post
    It's good to see you back posting Pris...

    I alway enjoy your perspective,



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    Hi, yah bum! Likewise I'm sure. Thanks for dropping by.

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    Quote Originally posted by Momlvsducks View Post
    I have not yet read your 2 links Pris.

    But, I wanted to add something.

    There are at least two realities for humans.

    One is in the body, the other is outside of the body.

    In the body we have needs like water, food, shelter, correct temperatures, sunlight.

    Out of the body I think we have no needs, because we think and we have.

    So, maybe we are here to experience working and straining to make a living??

    Kinda like a person gets on a roller coaster, gets terrified, gets off and gets right back on.

    So, maybe learning to aquire our needs fairly is one thing we are to learn here.
    In nature, elephants don't work and strain and 'make a living'. Together, they thrive.

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