If You Knew The Secret Of Immortality.....Would you tell anyone?

[Highland1]

We all take it as a fact that the only guaranteed thing in this life is physical death right?

We speculate about the afterlife, previous lives, reincarnation, whether to go to the light or not within the hope we can prove that there is more to all this than just

living, experiencing and eventually physically dying.

There does not seem to be any tangible proof that anything or any creature can physically live forever other than stories of vampirism.

What if we have got it all wrong and there is a way to physically and consciously live forever?

Are there such beings amongst us that have learned how to become immortal?

If there are, maybe they have to switch physical bodies in order to do so?

Maybe they would have to reach a stage of heightened enlightenment in the way that Chris Thomas suggests, and attain in full soul integration and perhaps discover the

secrets of life itself?

Crazy thing to contemplate I know.....but is it that crazy at least to consider that maybe the philosophers stone or a similar concept may have already been achieved?

Taking things a bit further, what if our planets ancient civilisations never really died but live in an eternal now or an eternal dimension we have not yet discovered?

Perhaps the et's we discuss so much are those very ancients? Sasquatch even?

I suppose if all humanity really did discover an "eternal immortality" then over populace would be a really be serious problem!

There are enough agendas as it is! lol

So lovely people, all I am doing here is playing around with alternative concepts other than that we are born, we grow old and die. and on the whole fear the finality of

death.

We keep soul searching to learn the secrets of the afterlife, to perhaps avoid the carousel of reincarnation and how to maybe ascend to a higher spiritual plain and still

we are no nearer to learning the truth collectively speaking.

So, how about considering this unlikely possibility to an actual possibility?

Finally, if you yourself discovered this "Secret" to immortality, and at the same time learned it was a secret that had to be solemnly kept above all..........

..................would you tell anyone?


Russ

[sandy]

Got to love you Russ, as you sure do get the old brain waves synapses jumping...........don't have any answers as can't quite find that silent space with all of the above thought forms running around in my head......

[Stoat muldoon]

I've said it before and I'll say it again , there is no death . Like a driver getting out of a car and getting in to a new one . This is like life , if folks have beaten the physical death then good on them but , to see all your loved ones go many times over must have an effect on their mental state . It's not for me , dying is the natural order , as is regeneration imho .

[Tonz]

If there were a way .breakthrough or shared method other than becoming a vampire yes I would like to live a thousand years in the same skin.the ideas no matter what one may have when your young would be reachable and also things like conservation would take a much deeper perspective.

[ronin]

If You Knew The Secret Of Immortality.....Would you tell anyone?

you would have to tell people who you cared for.imagine living lifetimes after lifetimes losing those you love.
would you not want to share your secret and help others.
how would you live it?enjoy yourself for a couple of hundred years living the good life then what do you do when you realise where have they all gone those people that you have known and lost.
you would see life changing events and be a immortal but would that satisfy your quest in life.

on the timeline the earth has existed i think humanity has only been here about two to five minutes so what would happen if there was another catastrophic event where would that leave you as a immortal?
alone?on a planet with no other beings but yourself!unless you shared the secrets of the philosophers stone you would be alone.
then when you have achieved everything this planet can offer you and you know it,s secrets,what then.
i figure you would still be asking the same questions from the beginning.

who am i.
what am i.
why am i here.
why am i immortal?

this would set you on a path to find god.
maybe all those that where not immortal found it long ago whilst you lived many many years doing whatever.

the concept of eras still living along side us in another dimension i had when i was a child.
is this why some people see ghost?they are actually seeing a filament of another dimension that is playing alongside ours now.

question is if you knew the secret of the philosophers stone who and why would you share it with?
you would be like a god and those who you thought deemed worthy of the secret would have to be of your mindset.
(you would be setting the rules)

so then we enter a whole new area of being judgemental of who is worthy of the knowledge?

or it would be a person may have to find it for themselves,this is the path and no one else can intervene.
no one who is enlightened would be able to help another in giving the ultimate answer but may help guide in small ways.

[Seikou-Kishi]

As I've said before, death is the last best consolation of life. Would I share immortality? I could never be that heartless XD

But if immortality means living in perfect health (or at least adequate health) until such a time as one decides to "leave", then... it depends. There's no sending without receiving, so the recipient would have to be suitable. That might sound elitist, but I do not mean in the sense that they would have to be "worth" saving, only that they would have to be capable of receiving it without psychological impairment/existential crisis.

But yes, and yes.

[Calz]

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QohvQH4b7ns

[BabaRa]

I've said it before and I'll say it again , there is no death . Like a driver getting out of a car and getting in to a new one . .

Yes, I believe most here agree with that statement. The problem is: Before we get into the new car, our memory is wiped clean - so we need to learn to drive all over again each time and relearn the roadmap - and just about the time we begin to see the route clearly and learn how to maneuver through the obstacles - BINGO - we die and the process begins again.

Ask yourself, who does this process serve and why would a beneficent god make us start from square one each time?

Highland1: So lovely people, all I am doing here is playing around with alternative concepts other than that we are born, we grow old and die. and on the whole fear the finality of

death.

We keep soul searching to learn the secrets of the afterlife, to perhaps avoid the carousel of reincarnation and how to maybe ascend to a higher spiritual plain and still

we are no nearer to learning the truth collectively speaking.

So, how about considering this unlikely possibility to an actual possibility?

I love this idea Russ. I guess my question now refers back to my last question to Stoat muldoon: Who does the current system serve?

* Do we need to find out who the puppet masters are in order to answer this completely and break the cycle?

*Should we focus on reactivating our own DNA which many believe was tampered with?

*Do we need to realize that we are mental beings, not physical beings and our programming, hence addiction pushes us to wanting another body?

I have considered all these possibilities at one time or another. But I also see how those in charge keep us so busy trying to stay alive (working to pay bills, keeping ourselves healthy by avoiding all the chemicals, etc., they are dumping on us in various ways, and just dealing with each other's imbalances.)

[Stoat muldoon]

Nice analogy Barbara , I obviously don't know the answer to that . But , I'm going to have a shufty around before I make any decisions . I like the free will , I'll be putting that to the test when I bail . I'm hoping I've learned enough this time round to help me give , whatever keeps mind wiping me the finger

[Wolf Khan]

I've said it before and I'll say it again , there is no death . Like a driver getting out of a car and getting in to a new one . This is like life , if folks have beaten the physical death then good on them but , to see all your loved ones go many times over must have an effect on their mental state . It's not for me , dying is the natural order , as is regeneration imho .

No I would not want to either.. Here Here Stoat Muldoon, nicely put

[Wolf Khan]

Yes, I believe most here agree with that statement. The problem is: Before we get into the new car, our memory is wiped clean - so we need to learn to drive all over again each time and relearn the roadmap - and just about the time we begin to see the route clearly and learn how to maneuver through the obstacles - BINGO - we die and the process begins again.

Ask yourself, who does this process serve and why would a beneficent god make us start from square one each time?



I love this idea Russ. I guess my question now refers back to my last question to Stoat muldoon: Who does the current system serve?

* Do we need to find out who the puppet masters are in order to answer this completely and break the cycle?

*Should we focus on reactivating our own DNA which many believe was tampered with?

*Do we need to realize that we are mental beings, not physical beings and our programming, hence addiction pushes us to wanting another body?

I have considered all these possibilities at one time or another. But I also see how those in charge keep us so busy trying to stay alive (working to pay bills, keeping ourselves healthy by avoiding all the chemicals, etc., they are dumping on us in various ways, and just dealing with each other's imbalances.)

The only reason our memory is wiped is that another agency attacks our right to be....

I know who does this, but if I say I'll get flamed, so better to keep my peace.

[Birddog]

Reply to post #3....Sloat is right....the secret of immortality is....that there is no death. Our 'shell' or outer self dies, but everything that is us, as an individual, is alive, and intact, complete with memory, light body that looks exactly like the one we just walked out of, our love for our family and friends, and the ability to see, hear, think, speak, its all there.....but in the 4th dimension. How do I know this...experience...been there, done that, and I have also had many friends and relatives come to see me at the time of death and later on...just to visit. It is all just that simple.

[Birddog]

Reply to post #4 Tonz, We have a different skin each time, although we look very similar in our facial features each lifetime. I used to be able to meditate and look at a person, and then that person would 'morph' out and a past life would appear....in every way..i would see this person as others saw them, in a manner of dress, hairstyle, and the way they looked. This image would stay for a minute, and another would appear, as the old morphed out. This sequence of events would go on for as long as I would let it. I usually stopped it after 20 minutes. Someone else wanted a turn. I didn't charge for this.

[Birddog]

Reply to post #5...Ronin, we don't lose anybody.....that's why everyone who crosses over is happy. They recognize their loved ones, and are recognized by them and others. It is why when we step out of the body, that we look exactly like we did when we lived. we are wearing the same clothes...mostly...or some are wearing a white gown and cumberbun with a robe. Our beloved animals are there too.

We can learn up there in heaven, and we come down here to learn too, but here we can learn to grown spiritually, and be more like God. We can become spiritually gifted ....beyond human. We are unlimited, if only you will believe.

I believe that it is for these reasons that the verse..."Be still and know that I am God."....was written in the Bible. You have inherited gifts and abilities that lay domant within you.

[Birddog]

Hey Sloan, set it up with someone that you know that has the gifts to see and hear spirits...that can speak with you after you pass on....you will see all for yourself. Also think of your children...you can travel to see them before you go...where ever they are. As you think....you will 'be there'.