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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    Nursery rymes were the old brainwashing ?, gosh the grimes is harsh harsher indeed , why ?, so so doomy.
    A portent for the unsuspecting children or a creative adult's need to express sadness for the plight of those not authoritarian in nature. Creative expression and the 'zombie' vision of the authoritarian are the antitheses of one another.
    “To seek self-knowledge is to embark on a journey which ... will always be incomplete" - courtesy of Godel's Incompleteness Theorem

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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    Nursery rymes were the old brainwashing ?, gosh the grimes is harsh harsher indeed , why ?, so so doomy.
    Brainwashing? If all it took were nursery rhymes to brainwash we wouldn't need any government programs or media to do it, would we? I don't know why you are so doomy, Aianawa. I really don't know.

    Can anyone point to an arena where there are no politics. Church? Gobs of politics. Workplace? Constant politics. School Boards? Politics galore. Symphony or Opera? Politics abounding.

    Why complain about its existence when it's a part of human interaction? Politics is what we do in place of war and killing. As we evolve we'll communicate more honestly, care about the seven generations which follow us, and not care about politics anymore.

    That's a bit of a ways away yet. Not to mention the fact that the natural environment is giving us a big fat wake-up call. We will likely lose a great number of people to more disease, especially if the denial continues as it has. Global population will probably go down quite a bit since we're not at all prepared for the environment we've unleashed upon ourselves.

    Those who emerge will care about the seven generations and won't be as petty as we are.

    It's a nice long-term vision with some huge bumps in the road on the way.

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    Self inspection may help you DT.

    Nursary ryhimes were really F'ed up back in the day from research, further back the worse it gets.

    Back on track away from songs n mice murder shall we lol.

    What is unspoken truth ???.

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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    Self inspection may help you DT.

    Nursary ryhimes were really F'ed up back in the day from research, further back the worse it gets.

    Back on track away from songs n mice murder shall we lol.

    What is unspoken truth ???.
    Little Willie

    Willie in the best of sashes,
    Fell in the fire and burned to ashes.
    By and by the room grew chilly
    Because no one wanted to poke up Willie.

    Willie with a thirst for gore,
    Nailed the baby to the door.
    Mother said, with humor quaint:
    "Careful, Will, don't scratch the paint."

    Little Willie from the mirror
    Licked the mercury all off
    Thinking in his childish error
    It would cure his whooping cough.
    At the funeral, Willie's mother
    Smartly said to Mrs. Brown,
    "Twas a chilly day for Willie
    When the mercury went down!"

    Little Willie on the tracks
    Didn't hear the engine squeal.
    Now the engine's coming back
    Scraping Willie off the wheel.

    Willie poisoned Auntie's tea.
    Auntie died in agony.
    Uncle came and looked quite vexed.
    "Really, Will," said he, "What next?"

    Willie, I regret to state,
    Cut his sister into bait.
    We miss her when it's time to dine,
    But Willie's fish taste simply fine.

    Willie fell down the elevator,
    Wasn't found till six days later.
    Then the neighbors sniffed, "Gee whiz!
    What a spoiled child Willie is."

    Willie bashed open baby's head
    To see if brains are gray or red.
    What a naughty boy is he
    He shall have no jam for tea.

    Willie in the cauldron fell;
    See the grief on mother's brow.
    Mother loved her darling well;
    Willie's quite hard-boiled by now.

    Willie and two other brats
    Licked up all the Rough-on-Rats.
    Father said, when mother cried,
    "Never mind, they'll die outside."

    Into the family drinking well
    Willie pushed his sister Nell.
    She's there yet, because it kilt her
    Now we'll have to buy a filter.

    Little Willie, mean as hell,
    Threw his sister in the well.
    Said his mother when drawing water,
    "Sure is hard to raise a daughter."

    Little Willie hung his sister.
    She was dead before we missed her.
    "Willie's always up to tricks.
    Ain't he cute! He's only six."

    Little Willie's dead and gone.
    His face we'll see no more.
    For what he thought was H2O
    Was H2SO4.

    Willie saw some dynamite,
    Couldn't understand it quite.
    Curiosity never pays;
    It rained Willie seven days.
    “To seek self-knowledge is to embark on a journey which ... will always be incomplete" - courtesy of Godel's Incompleteness Theorem

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    Willie ever learn? That's a disturbing little rhyme. It's kind of familiar, I must've heard it or a version at some point.

    The Grimm fairy tales are also much more disturbing and dark in their original form. I didn't know, as a kid, that the Hansel and Gretle that I read was much nicer than the original. People tell scary stories. They have for a very long time. Sometimes they're cautionary tales. Sometimes they're instructional. Sometimes they're designed to keep folks away from certain places.

    It's part of human lore.

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    ???, yes ?.Human Lore , really, so negative, imo positivity was the standard back in time, talking to your water n spirit each day, these horror stories will bring one down

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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    ???, yes ?.Human Lore , really, so negative, imo positivity was the standard back in time, talking to your water n spirit each day, these horror stories will bring one down
    From what I can remember, when I was young, people told fairy tales and old-wives tales to the children in order to reign in their unbridled enthusiasm for exploring the world around them. Parents and grandparents would scare the children with such stories in order to make them more compliant and obedient — more dependent on their parents, you could say.

    Of course, with some children, it had the exact opposite effect, and it made them even wilder, actively seeking out dangerous situations and putting themselves (and others) at risk just for the thrill of it.

    But then again, not all fairy tales are sinister, and some had a very happy ending. I'm guessing that those were intended to teach the children about good and evil, and of how both exist in the world around them. But for a naive and autistic boy such as myself, it also created the illusion that there's always a happy ending to everything. And boy, did I learn the hard way that it's much rather the opposite...

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    Aesop's fable are another example of stories designed to instruct. They are less scary. The fairy tales we speak of come mostly from Europe and from quite a dark time. They reflect that, as language reflects culture.

    Just look at how many gun, bullet and shooting language there is in American English.



    The truth is often spoken of, except for places where they quiver in fear and run and hide from the truth.

    Fox News’s blackout of Jan. 6 points to a hidden crisis for Democrats

    By contrast, Fox hosts are gearing up to substitute a propagandistic alternative story in which the only real victims related to Jan. 6 and the hearings are Trump and his supporters. House Republicans allied with Trump will manufacture material for this disinformation push designed to keep the truth from the base at all costs.

    Yet Fox’s blackout also highlights severe information challenges that Democrats will face for the foreseeable future. The fact that Republicans enjoy a massive media apparatus that manufactures a separate reality for the base, even as Democrats rely on traditional news organizations to communicate with voters, creates deep information asymmetries that continue to bedevil them.
    This will actually bedevil the people in that bubble of propaganda. It already has. They went tilting at our big windmill and now are experiencing the consequences. We nee to understand that we will all be bedeviled if we allow this shit-show of lies to continue as if it's just another opinion.

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    If one is still watching a or many news mainstream wise channells still for your world view and your not experiencing problems or negativity , welcome to an open organic heart space and bless you for still being magnificent, if your watching mainstream news and pov wise still holding up what the talking heads have been told to inform you, have you UNDER stand, bless you, lets keep walking, if you hold a flower and it tells you to smell me so as to determine it's colour, bless you.

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    Ta joe, was helpfullll indeed your thread.

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    Just do not know where to put this, feel Aragorn will help, ta.

    Love to know Joe's take on this.

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