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    If unemployed work full-time for benefits, why not give them job with contributions?

    It may seem to be logical to say that the unemployed must work full-time for their benefits but think about it a bit. If they have full-time jobs to give these people, why don't they give them the full-time job and pay their contributions and allow them some dignity? Is this a long-term plan to avoid giving people pensions?

    "Now work for your benefits: Ministers to unveil tough crackdown on payments to jobless
    A US-style ‘work for dole’ scheme could reduce Britain’s vast benefits bill
    Ministers say jobless should do community service and work experience
    Those who refuse to do so face losing their welfare payments"

    How about the Queen doing some community service instead of opening Ascot and showing off her ridiculous hats, etc?



    "Here we go – another step to the Hunger Games society that I have been predicting for years.

    ‘The long-term unemployed are to be told they must do an unpaid full-time job or be stripped of their benefits.

    A dramatic extension of the conditions attached to unemployment handouts will be unveiled at the Conservative party conference next week, according to well-placed sources. Ministers are convinced a new US-style ‘work for the dole’ scheme will help to reduce Britain’s vast benefits bill and curb the something-for-nothing culture.

    It is expected that claimants who go through the Government’s main back-to-work scheme, the Work Programme, but fail to find a job, will be required to take part in unpaid community activities or work experience. Those who refuse to do so face losing their welfare payments.

    Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith told the Daily Mail: ‘It’s not acceptable for people to expect to live a life on benefits if they’re able to work.’’
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    So how are they meant to be actively looking for work if they are to busy working full time for £75 a week benefit ?
    So we will have slave labour then. !

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    Also what is going to happen to the employed , will a business bother employing people when they have the ability to offer positions for the job centers unemployed ? I think it is utter madness !!

    Now I think we should have the unemployed volunteering with skills that they have in community programs . Helping old people, the sick and the like . But putting them to work for big business is just too easy for manipulation and exploitation !!!

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    What an Orwellian nightmare. Next they'll have us editing the fictitious newspeak that we read ourselves!

    Although, Daily Mail are without a doubt the most proficient uk "news" paper at terrifying the population with excessive exaggeration. Take with a cargo container of rock salt.

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    I thought this too Ben but I have seen it headlining on three MSM news channels , the plan will be rolled out next week ! x

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    Oh dear dear dear. Has anyone come across a petition for it. This must be stopped!!

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    Let me have a looksee , no not as yet will keep my eyes and nose to the ground x
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    seems to me that they will be hoisted by their own petard, as in if they make them work an eight hour day the law as it is requires they are paid the minimum wage, so it will cost them more than the benefit?

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    Quote Originally posted by daft ada View Post
    seems to me that they will be hoisted by their own petard, as in if they make them work an eight hour day the law as it is requires they are paid the minimum wage, so it will cost them more than the benefit?
    I would have thought they'll roll out a clause for that alongside. There's no way they will be frivolous with their fiat currency unless it is for their own self gain or to wage war. This looks like a very convenient way to keep masses within the poverty trap yet potentially increase the GDP.

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    I know that like all official media the Daily Mail should be taken with a pinch of salt and probably more but often they tell people about things that are really happening when the others say nothing. I think there are some people working there who are awake.


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    What an Orwellian nightmare. Next they'll have us editing the fictitious newspeak that we read ourselves!

    Although, Daily Mail are without a doubt the most proficient uk "news" paper at terrifying the population with excessive exaggeration. Take with a cargo container of rock salt.

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    Quote Originally posted by daft ada View Post
    seems to me that they will be hoisted by their own petard, as in if they make them work an eight hour day the law as it is requires they are paid the minimum wage, so it will cost them more than the benefit?
    Could be wrong, but agree with Sooz and wouldn't be surprised if they changed the law in this case.

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