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    Russia to STOP Gas Transit Via Ukraine - Latest

    the Eu is in for a it would appear.

    Russia is to stop gas transit to Eu via ukraine and shift it to Turkey - for the Eu members who want it. A surprise move move that the European Union’s energy chief said would hurt its reputation as a supplier.
    " The decision makes no economic sense, Maros Sefcovic, the European Commission’s vice president for energy union, told reporters today after talks with Russian government officials and the head of gas exporter, OAO Gazprom (GAZP), in Moscow. "

    Gazprom plans to deliver the fuel to Turkey’s border with Greece and “it’s up to the EU to decide what to do” with it further, according to Sefcovic: “We don’t work like this,” he said. “The trading system and trading habits -- how we do it today -- are different.”


    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2015-0...ries-foul.html

    It may not make any economic sense to Eu, but, as it transpires makes every sense to russia:

    Mr Miller, the head of gazprom stated: “Transit risks for European consumers on the territory of Ukraine remain,” Miller said in an e-mailed statement. “There are no other options” except for the planned Turkish Stream link, he said.

    “We have informed our European partners, and now it is up to them to put in place the necessary infrastructure starting from the Turkish-Greek border,” Miller said.


    the Rus energy minister: “The decision has been made,” Novak said. “We are diversifying and eliminating the risks of unreliable countries that caused problems in past years, including for European consumers.”

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    It makes perfect sense, with the reptutation that the terrorirst orgs that work for the US and Isreal have with blowing up gas supply lines, etc. It makes perfect sense, transport it through allied territory, not into a unstable region. And then let who ever wants it take it from there.

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    it's confirmed by EU energy minister who traveled to moscow the other day to see how the last year's cancelation of the south stream gas transit into europe can be remedied.. instead, not only did he hear there'd be no revamping of the south stream, he was told that the transit via Ukr is on a chopping block as of now..

    just what's he gonna do about it one might wonder

    below is his statement


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    Talk about creating ones own reality. The USA and its hand puppet the EU have been waging economic war on Russia. The cognitive dissonance is staggering. Russia has been quite patient with this group of monkeys. Russia is known for it patience and then quietly and resolutely responding. The clowns in the USA state Dept. are a very sick group, and those who follow that leadership are below contempt. All very disgusting behavior. No regard for the people they supposedly represent. They are just taxpayers.
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    The "good news" ... if you will ... is how in your face obvious this whole situation regarding the Ukraine has brought out the truth regarding the geopolitics and lies and media complicity.

    If this news stream hasn't woken you up ... then best of luck with the reset and recycle my friends ...

    Look to news from abroad if you must ... seriously a no brainer going on ...

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    this happens to be a greater story than we get to hear of. this means that eu countries like bulagria, macedonia, romania, greece who rely overwhelmingly on gas supplies from Russia (in case of bulgaria 100%) are going to have to switch to electric (a lot dearer ) or firewood (not many residential properites have chimneys these days). it also means that Ukraine gets out of the picture altogether as having any future significance in gas transit for europe and it also stands to lose billions it used to collect for transit fees.

    i am further guessing, this move may have something to do with poroshenko's 4th mobilisation call the other day (to include women this time) - most likely planning an all out assault on donbass region.. according to russian sources, large movement of heavy armour has been noted in the past days.


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    Ukraine is a failed state. Kiev better be careful with its military. Russian patience is very thin now. Ukraine's only use to the West will be to try and start a war. A war they cannot win. The Ukraine situation is the sickest display ever witnessed by me. The Western Ukrainian people are looking pretty disposable at this point.
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    Quote Originally posted by modwiz View Post
    Ukraine is a failed state. Kiev better be careful with its military. Russian patience is very thin now. Ukraine's only use to the West will be to try and start a war. A war they cannot win. The Ukraine situation is the sickest display ever witnessed by me. The Western Ukrainian people are looking pretty disposable at this point.

    ... and that is the point.

    Banksters have long planned on bringing down amerika to enable their wet dream of their one world gov.


    The treason within DC is complete ... task is done ... game over ...


    All that is left is those within the military and abc agencies to have people (you know ... humans) stand up and see the situation for what it really is.


    While we can appreciate the Red Dragon Family message of "God" coming back to kick some ass ... best for us as humanity to get over the savior complex and do what we can with the scant time we have left to do so ...


    always ... imho

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    Quote Originally posted by Calz View Post
    ... and that is the point.

    Banksters have long planned on bringing down amerika to enable their wet dream of their one world gov.


    The treason within DC is complete ... task is done ... game over ...


    All that is left is those within the military and abc agencies to have people (you know ... humans) stand up and see the situation for what it really is.


    While we can appreciate the Red Dragon Family message of "God" coming back to kick some ass ... best for us as humanity to get over the savior complex and do what we can with the scant time we have left to do so ...


    always ... imho
    In Alfred Webremont's video, Randy Cramer speaks of the military people who have generations of family in the military being fed up and the reason why he can speak of the Mars base and Dick Cheney involvement. His higher-ups approved. People in front of TV's for info are becoming the last block in certain ways. Some millions of America will recoil in horror if Cheney or Bush were actually arrested. What would FOX news do with such an action. The good military have a zombie problem and that is a big part of their being frozen right now. So they get the dirt out where they can. Alt media for now, because we just can't get our friends and family away from the fookin' TV's.

    An important point: The RDF are not about God kicking ass, that is Ron's hang-up as a dis-empowered being. The spiritual warfare of the Red Dragon himself is just that. To put the fear of God in 'evil' doers. The Ambassador is clear. Some combination of "the people", including military, is what ends things if the cabal resist. Their demise is guaranteed, it is a matter of whether they take 'us' with them. Cowards do not like to die alone.

    Economic collapse, for a short term, will befall us if our Western cabal resits and we do not demand their arrest and removal from power by the proper police and military authorities. It is a race. The crash that is coming is avoidable if we change the political structure, via arrests, so that the global relief funds can enter out monetary system without being instantly stolen. Our gubmints are organized criminals. This is not hyperbole. These people are more despicable than a good human would imagine another human capable of. It is incomprehensible. The greed is beyond usage. The amount of monies supposed to have been getting to us for years, all over the world, has largely gone into private bank accounts. With the remainder going to provide meager services that were intended to be plentiful.
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    Quote Originally posted by modwiz View Post
    Talk about creating ones own reality. The USA and its hand puppet the EU have been waging economic war on Russia. The cognitive dissonance is staggering. Russia has been quite patient with this group of monkeys. Russia is known for it patience and then quietly and resolutely responding. The clowns in the USA state Dept. are a very sick group, and those who follow that leadership are below contempt. All very disgusting behavior. No regard for the people they supposedly represent. They are just taxpayers.
    Well said.
    The past has shown that when we place sanctions on other countries, we force them into positions that aren’t in the best interests of the citizens of either country – ours or theirs. ( i.e. sanctions on Germany after WWI and sanctions on Japan prior to them entering WWII). But then, those who make the decisions care little for the average citizen.


    Here's a link to an article which gives more indepth information. http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.fr/201...-of-south.html

    Excerpt:
    Russia has sealed a key deal with Iran to swap Iranian oil for Russian industrial goods. Russia has also agreed to invest heavily in the Iranian nuclear industry. If and when sanctions on Iran are lifted the Europeans will find the Russians already there. Russia has just agreed a massive deal to supply gas to Turkey (about which more below). Overshadowing these deals are the two huge deals Russia has made this year to supply gas to China.

    Russia's energy resources are enormous but they are not infinite. The second deal done with China and the deal just done with Turkey redirect to these two countries gas that had previously been earmarked for Europe. The gas volumes involved in the Turkish deal almost exactly match those previously intended for South Stream. The Turkish deal replaces South Stream.

    These deals show that Russia had made a strategic decision this year to redirect its energy flow away from Europe. Though it will take time for the full effect to become clear, the consequences of that for Europe are grim. Europe is looking at a serious energy shortfall, which it will only be able to make up by buying energy at a much higher price.

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