The vast majority perceive ET as negative

[mojo]

Most theologians and many others speak about ETs as being demonic or negative in nature, although speaking from personal experience would have to say there are good ones out there. Also feel that many abductions are human originated or in association with negative ETs. Pretty sure negative species exist just never experienced them and the majority of people speaking on the subject say ETs are negative and feel it would be remiss to not speak out. The forum has a more balanced view of the subject but the majority of public see ET as negative which would help establish a future false flag event with TPTB.

[ronin]

if you weigh up the pros and cons of a et/ed encounter can you blame the vast majority in thinking that they are negative?
here are some questions......
1. why would et abduct a person and do experiments on them without their consent?
2. has et got their own agenda that involves human experiments without the consent of the abducted being?
3. has the government had et relations that they keep secret from the the masses?
4. what is the intention of et if they abduct people?
5. are there any good et encounters?

even with these questions and peoples testimonials we will not have the answers but speculate at what they need/want.

for myself i have never seen a ufo or alien being but have had many dreams since childhood of both.

in conclusion i feel that et/ed or any entity that trys to influence you,abduct you,work on you is not in your best interest.
as we are all sovereign beings and seeded from our forefathers to this planet,we do have a choice .

the et/ed and entities do not give us that choice when they influence/abduct us!

fear/loosh/engery transfer comes to mind!also experimentation to create a hybrid that can survive on this planet.

sure et is negative.

[modwiz]

if you weigh up the pros and cons of a et/ed encounter can you blame the vast majority in thinking that they are negative?
here are some questions......
1. why would et abduct a person and do experiments on them without their consent?
2. has et got their own agenda that involves human experiments without the consent of the abducted being?
3. has the government had et relations that they keep secret from the the masses?
4. what is the intention of et if they abduct people?
5. are there any good et encounters?

even with these questions and peoples testimonials we will not have the answers but speculate at what they need/want.

for myself i have never seen a ufo or alien being but have had many dreams since childhood of both.

in conclusion i feel that et/ed or any entity that trys to influence you,abduct you,work on you is not in your best interest.
as we are all sovereign beings and seeded from our forefathers to this planet,we do have a choice .

the et/ed and entities do not give us that choice when they influence/abduct us!

fear/loosh/engery transfer comes to mind!also experimentation to create a hybrid that can survive on this planet.

sure et is negative.

Perspective plays a role here as well. Some Reptoids seem to like to eat humans. Their view on eating us is the same as our eating cows. They see us do it without consent, or concern for traumatizing the animal. Because we can, we do. Reptoids agree with us in spirit about that. We can argue sentience all we want, it doesn't take a developed cerebrum to experience misery and horror.

Should I meet a hungry Rep, one can be sure of me flashing my veggie membership card. LOL

People who want to eat us is a fairly "negative" situation, for sure. I cannot free myself of the bigger, un-emotional, context. We are viewed as we view our farm animals.

[The One]

As far as i am concerned in relation to the negatives you can blame that treaty the American government signed

Its said that part of the treaty was a deal in which technology was exchanged for the right to abduct, on the condition that the people were not harmed, and returned without any memory of the event.What bothers me about this part is if they are so advanced then why would they need to do even sign a treaty

[ronin]

Perspective plays a role here as well. Some Reptoids seem to like to eat humans. Their view on eating us is the same as our eating cows. They see us do it without consent, or concern for traumatizing the animal. Because we can, we do. Reptoids agree with us in spirit about that. We can argue sentience all we want, it doesn't take a developed cerebrum to experience misery and horror.

Should I meet a hungry Rep, one can be sure of me flashing my veggie membership card. LOL

People who want to eat us is a fairly "negative" situation, for sure. I cannot free myself of the bigger, un-emotional, context. We are viewed as we view our farm animals.

true it may seem that they do eat us but prefer child meat!
but on the other hand they still need us because they engage and offer technology for this price.
now if they where so advanced would they not just abduct and eat us?why the agreements with our autorities?

[modwiz]

true it may seem that they do eat us but prefer child meat!
but on the other hand they still need us because they engage and offer technology for this price.
now if they where so advanced would they not just abduct and eat us?why the agreements with our autorities?

Why the authorities? So they have a way of consent in writing through a treaty. Our gubmints represent us until we do something about it.

A funny scenario would have food companies telling us they poisoned our food chain to make us unpalatable to aliens. LOL Spinmeisters.

[ronin]

Why the authorities? So they have a way of consent in writing through a treaty. Our gubmints represent us until we do something about it.

A funny scenario would have food companies telling us they poisoned our food chain to make us unpalatable to aliens. LOL Spinmeisters.

hmmm your pushing me Modwiz i feel in a good way.
forsure they have been affecting our food,water supplies with all the weather modifications ,chemicals ect ect
gmo,infiltrated our goverments ect ect....
i do not need to go on you know all the happenings of the world.

they do not like to eat peoples meat that has been contaminated by addictions.
alcohol,drugs and the such.
pure meat would obviously be the younger meat as we do with lamb,eggs and such.

[Calz]

Why the authorities? So they have a way of consent in writing through a treaty. Our gubmints represent us until we do something about it.

A funny scenario would have food companies telling us they poisoned our food chain to make us unpalatable to aliens. LOL Spinmeisters.

[ronin]

so the gmo,haarp,fluoride, blah blah is for the best of us?????

behave Modwiz....

[modwiz]

I like their skin markings. "Look at the patterns on that babe."

[NANUXII]

I see people fear that which they do not understand.

I often try to articulate this argument to my self and find it challenging to say what i know and make it understandable in humanistic terms..

But ill try ,

what we are , what we know and experience in our human culture is what we find normal or at least able to congnitively negotiate as its been part of our social conditioning.

What we are trying to learn is exo political standard culture, in a xenophbic enviroment. We think we are sovereign but by all accounts we are slaves, chattel , cattle , food for the brain shaggers.

What you have is what you earn , here and pretty much everywhere else. What is diacotically opposed is the Human want for contact and the Human indifference to ET culture.

We dont have a good chance of understanding them with so much judgement , and without any evidense what so ever.. We love to strech and mutate facts or even chinese whispers.. Tell me something , why would an advanced race want to be part of that ?

does anybody here knoiw anyone that got eaten ? or is it all stories written by people with agendas ? i dont know and i dont discount the possibility but without evidense im not going to commit my self emotionally, thats dangerous ...

What i find is our biggest problem is we tend to engage in emotional battles over the " idea " of a threat. Take a look at the alternative media , they make everything out to be dangerous and its this and its that and with very little to no evidense.

And lets not discount the fact that there is and has been a huge push for vilifying reptilian through propoganda to the point its in our mental matrix by default.

They Picked Reptiles because it tested high as a " Negatory Reacticve " how many people here would love to handle a serpent ? not many id imagine ... so lets make them out to be evil ... yeah thatll get em scared .. mmmwahahaahh !

LOOK AT THE STANDARD MODUS OPERANDI OF THE ONES PUSHING AGENDAS.

Pick a group .. lets say Muslims ,,, we dont like them because they have the oil , and they are extremely difficult as a culture to control, So in order to get general consent lets make them out to be baddies .. , then lets bomb the crap out of their homes and kill them off so we can have their lands.. This is HUMAN behaviour 101 , absolutely nothing to do with ET's ..

Ok so we are losing control of people in general so we need a new fear god , lets make it out to be something they will fear and add a little disgust. Reptiles !

yeah how to we make them really horrible .. ok they eat people , good .. hmm , they experiemtn on us .. hmm good , they stick probes up our bums to harvest farts and other stuff like that ... OOH OOH i know , Lets abduct peiople and experiment on them , because we need unwilling participants to further our knowledge on humans .. and then blame the Reptilians .. Yeah ! woo hoo ! and there is no evidense =but thats ok , we can blame them anyway !

... you see where this is headed ? extreme emotional investment in unsubstantiated events. The best way to keep us from ever knowing anything beyond the battle in our minds, that for all intens and purposes , does not really exist.

Granted , there may be a some of whats being reported , actually hapening .,.. But look at the extreme we take it to .. .thats the problem and we are being sucked right into the honey trap.

N

[sandy]

In my own mind the Honey Trap is being distracted in focus by all the unknowns. Being human and focusing on our purpose for existence gets lost in the shuffle from one meme to another.

It is far easier to give our attention outside of ourselves and far less painful as well............thus the rub in human evolution and progress in creating paradise here on Earth.

This is not to say don't look outside of self etc., it is to make the point of priorities of importance in addressing what really ails the world at large and it is far from identifying the unknowns outside of ourselves and much more pertinent to identify the unknowns within.

Just my pennies worth,

[mojo]

Thought this was an interesting video and fits the discussion. According to the book "Blue Planet Project," treaties were signed with ETs in the 1940s that are still secret today. Humans are involved. The book does state both negative and positives are visiting with over 150 species documented.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dyl8udYt6X0

[Bob]

From another forum totally far far away from this one..

To see this being discussed across the board, as a micro-macro "issue" says fractal to me..

Our human hypocrisy eating other life in order to survive.. Consumption of what we perceive is OK.. hmmm, and we are enlightened because?

Here is the dialog:

Bob: What has never made sense to me at least.. why go about mining or extracting "our precious essences" (Dr Strangelove, or how I learned to stop worrying and to love the Bomb..)..

the same technology that allows for galactic travel can fold space and seal it sufficiently into matter, or proteins, or gold, or water..

the weirdo's messing around with weapons sound like cannibals to me, who managed to steal some tech from some civilization who turned their back on them momentarily, and the cannibals can't really 'get it', or figure it out really; and their idea is to mess around, have some jollies with the natives, and play like kids running a hot rod around this part of the pasture.. low lifes, not advanced 'et'.

i don't consider a truly advanced intra-galactic civilization one who would stoop to such dross methods.. If they needed to the 'enemy' should there be such a thing worthy of a battle would able to simply be unfolded into nothingness..

And one of the replies given to me in my statement:

If .... perhaps.... some of those beings happened to be our historical " parents"....can you understand why it is that we are such a diverse and messed up group of people.

I have always wondered this.... Why is it that " God" or " Allah" promised the same little tiny piece of land to the decendants of two half brothers.... what was it about putting Hagars son and Saras son up against each other? Was that just for the fun of it? After all the bloodshed through the centuries to prove who has the rightful inheritance.... why hasn't someone stood up and said... "I am not buying into this anymore."

Just a personal thought.

Someday someone ought to start fresh... Go back in time and speak again to Hagar at the well. Tell her to leave then and there... never go back and raise her son by herself in another land.... do not subject himself to the influence of having this competition with his half brother. The entire world would have had a different history.

So Hagar.... walk into the Wilderness alone and never look back. My opinion.

Look at the crossroads.. What it seems we are getting close to the point of being 'there'..

(my 49 cents allowing for inflation..)

[777]

I see people fear that which they do not understand.

I often try to articulate this argument to my self and find it challenging to say what i know and make it understandable in humanistic terms..

But ill try ,

what we are , what we know and experience in our human culture is what we find normal or at least able to congnitively negotiate as its been part of our social conditioning.

What we are trying to learn is exo political standard culture, in a xenophbic enviroment. We think we are sovereign but by all accounts we are slaves, chattel , cattle , food for the brain shaggers.

What you have is what you earn , here and pretty much everywhere else. What is diacotically opposed is the Human want for contact and the Human indifference to ET culture.

We dont have a good chance of understanding them with so much judgement , and without any evidense what so ever.. We love to strech and mutate facts or even chinese whispers.. Tell me something , why would an advanced race want to be part of that ?

does anybody here knoiw anyone that got eaten ? or is it all stories written by people with agendas ? i dont know and i dont discount the possibility but without evidense im not going to commit my self emotionally, thats dangerous ...

What i find is our biggest problem is we tend to engage in emotional battles over the " idea " of a threat. Take a look at the alternative media , they make everything out to be dangerous and its this and its that and with very little to no evidense.

And lets not discount the fact that there is and has been a huge push for vilifying reptilian through propoganda to the point its in our mental matrix by default.

They Picked Reptiles because it tested high as a " Negatory Reacticve " how many people here would love to handle a serpent ? not many id imagine ... so lets make them out to be evil ... yeah thatll get em scared .. mmmwahahaahh !

LOOK AT THE STANDARD MODUS OPERANDI OF THE ONES PUSHING AGENDAS.

Pick a group .. lets say Muslims ,,, we dont like them because they have the oil , and they are extremely difficult as a culture to control, So in order to get general consent lets make them out to be baddies .. , then lets bomb the crap out of their homes and kill them off so we can have their lands.. This is HUMAN behaviour 101 , absolutely nothing to do with ET's ..

Ok so we are losing control of people in general so we need a new fear god , lets make it out to be something they will fear and add a little disgust. Reptiles !

yeah how to we make them really horrible .. ok they eat people , good .. hmm , they experiemtn on us .. hmm good , they stick probes up our bums to harvest farts and other stuff like that ... OOH OOH i know , Lets abduct peiople and experiment on them , because we need unwilling participants to further our knowledge on humans .. and then blame the Reptilians .. Yeah ! woo hoo ! and there is no evidense =but thats ok , we can blame them anyway !

... you see where this is headed ? extreme emotional investment in unsubstantiated events. The best way to keep us from ever knowing anything beyond the battle in our minds, that for all intens and purposes , does not really exist.

Granted , there may be a some of whats being reported , actually hapening .,.. But look at the extreme we take it to .. .thats the problem and we are being sucked right into the honey trap.

N

In my view this is a contender for post of the year.