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    8 in a never-ending series: applying the keel theory

    from a time when howard menger was busy with his contacts,
    comes the lost in time, dr. daniel fry story.

    it's a story of an intelligent, trusted military man who comes in contact with humanoids, 'beings who originated on earth.'
    they came with the usual message -- how to survive our impeding doom.

    sit back, light up and enjoy ; )


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9BEHzXctQ4


    here is a student of daniel fry's experiences offers a further analysis of 'the white sands incident.'


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    long before art bell dominated the high strangeness airwaves,
    there was new york radio personality, long john nebel.
    his show, party line, was the late night place to be back then,
    with guess like john keel and an assortment of latter day ufo
    witnesses and researches, including the likes of
    george adamski, daniel fry, george van tassle, on and on.

    sit back and let's join that new era ufo hysteria, already in progress...

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    here's an interview with the 'keeper of keelian,' andrew colvin.
    he has been busy compiling john keel's hard to find, diverse writings in books, like –
    Searching for the String (a fun and instructive read)
    let's see what he has to say...

    http://wdtrg.blogspot.com/2014/01/an...-keel-and.html
    (click on the audio player beneath the post's title)

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    I found this 90s transcribed interview with Jacque Valle.
    Like John Keel, Vallee, after years of research,
    came to the conclusion that what was believed to be visitations
    from other worlds, was more like a clash of our reality with another, unknown consciousness.

    "The UFO phenomenon exists.
    It has been with us throughout history.
    It is physical in nature and it remains unexplained in terms of contemporary science.
    It represents a level of consciousness that we have not yet recognized,
    and which is able to manipulate dimensions beyond time and space as we understand them.
    It affects our own consciousness in ways that we do not grasp fully,
    and it generally behaves as a control system."

    (this quote is the link to the interview)


    Vallee really gets into the 'nitty gritty' in Part Two of this interview.

    grab your cup of coco, breakout your 'text to speech' machine and dig in.

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    9 in a never-ending series: applying the keel theory

    I bet you've heard of the 'brazil roswell case.'
    another credible witness is forever bedeviled by contact.
    it didn't end well for him.

    now, in this keelian context, review this portion of the story,
    particularly beginning at 31:30 mark. (clipped link below)

    "Take it easy. We are not going to do you any harm."

    sound familiar?
    (variations of this statement have been repeated throughout the ages)

    http://youtu.be/pn8VtAth1co?t=27m56s



    if you aren't familiar with this 'brazil roswell case', watch it all.
    quite an excellent documentary.

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    Quote Originally posted by jimmer View Post
    I found this 90s transcribed interview with Jacque Valle.
    Like John Keel, Vallee, after years of research,
    came to the conclusion that what was believed to be visitations
    from other worlds, was more like a clash of our reality with another, unknown consciousness.

    "The UFO phenomenon exists.
    It has been with us throughout history.
    It is physical in nature and it remains unexplained in terms of contemporary science.
    It represents a level of consciousness that we have not yet recognized,
    and which is able to manipulate dimensions beyond time and space as we understand them.
    It affects our own consciousness in ways that we do not grasp fully,
    and it generally behaves as a control system."

    (this quote is the link to the interview)


    Vallee really gets into the 'nitty gritty' in Part Two of this interview.

    grab your cup of coco, breakout your 'text to speech' machine and dig in.
    Great find Jimmer, if it is 90's its very late 90's because he talks about the Heavens Gate cult

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    Quote Originally posted by Spiral View Post
    Great find Jimmer, if it is 90's its very late 90's because he talks about the Heavens Gate cult
    hello, spiral.
    the wikipedia reference link shows 1993.
    "Interview: Heretic Among Heretics: – Jacques Vallée (1993)"
    there's no date on the article itself, so not sure.

    I think there's a lot to this quote:

    "In some cases," he says, "the community of ufologists may simply be used in a sociological experiment
    because they are a convenient group of people to test, to see how they react to different rumors."


    question is, who are the sociologists?
    us, them or both?

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    *facepalm*

    I just re read that interview & it was the Order of the Solar Temple, not Heaven's Gate so that makes the date 1995 if it's a year later as stated because the suicide mentioned was in '94

    According to Vallee, the French press has recently reported that the notorious Order of the Solar Temple--in the news last year after 53 members committed suicide in Switzerland and Canada--
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_o...s_and_suicides

    The ideas expressed by Vallee & Keel are making more & more sense to me, not just of what I have read but of what I have experienced & it also goes a long way to explain certain people in the UFO "community" & the stories & ideas they are SO keen to implant in our minds.

    I wish that Church was still around, I would love to know what he makes of it all after his experiences.

    One has to wonder if any extra terrestrials have ever visited Earth at all

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    Quote Originally posted by Spiral View Post
    The ideas expressed by Vallee & Keel are making more & more sense to me, not just of what I have read but of what I have experienced & it also goes a long way to explain certain people in the UFO "community" & the stories & ideas they are SO keen to implant in our minds.

    I wish that Church was still around, I would love to know what he makes of it all after his experiences.

    One has to wonder if any extra terrestrials have ever visited Earth at all
    spiral, you are having the same epiphany as me.

    I've racked my knowledge of ufology, applying the theory and it always rings true.

    how many years have we dutifully watched video, read accounts, waiting for something meaningful to occur.
    all these really interesting, enticing stories, photos, sightings and nothing comes of it.
    every witness / contactee I've read or learned about ends up the same way:

    some extraordinary contact event
    message reveals some plausible or accurate information
    witnesses life changes
    more messages that turn out to be bogus
    witness devotes life to message
    witness ends up confused, angry and lost.

    look at the contactee cases posted on this thread.
    they all end up the same.

    we are not experiencing intelligent off-world contact.
    we are being contacted by a trickster element of unknown origins.
    keel was on it.

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    My thoughts have also been plodding down that road. Tricksters of unknown origins.
    Frances.

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    I am sure we have noticed the parralel between Sinzzer's and 717seethelight's posts.
    Would I be correct in thinking it was John Keel who said a lot of these sightings of orbs and lights happen near water.
    Frances.

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    Quote Originally posted by Frances View Post
    My thoughts have also been plodding down that road. Tricksters of unknown origins.
    Frances.
    yes, frances, the mystery has only just begun.

    but who is the next keelian?

    keel broke the code. what next?

    reading one of the articles in 'searching for the string'
    keel examines the accepted theory that electromagnetic fields
    are the reasoning behind UFO related mechanical disruptions.
    stopping engines and like.
    he lays out the case that it must be something else.
    he believed it is something that interferes the flow of electrons.
    he called it the 'molecular paralysis effect.'
    something far more crazy than the widely accepted magnetic influences.

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    Quote Originally posted by Frances View Post
    I am sure we have noticed the parralel between Sinzzer's and 717seethelight's posts.
    Would I be correct in thinking it was John Keel who said a lot of these sightings of orbs and lights happen near water.
    Frances.
    yes, either ley lines or water or mineral rich areas (or combinations).
    he called these areas, windows.

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    Here is a link to a site called 'Some Gems from Operation Trojan Horse'..

    A collection of highlights, experiences and philosophy of Mr. John Keel.
    If you don't have time for the book, this synopsis is an excellent read.


    http://www.chodesh.info/ufos-operati...horse-gems.htm

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    Quote Originally posted by samos View Post
    Here is a link to a site called 'Some Gems from Operation Trojan Horse'..

    A collection of highlights, experiences and philosophy of Mr. John Keel.
    If you don't have time for the book, this synopsis is an excellent read.
    this excerpt illustrates keel's disdain for the accepted 'alien' über intelligence.
    keel believed the UTs were not that smart, faking it by being able to see our future –
    through predictions or prophecies, acting god-like to us. playing us for all we're worth.

    "If they are the product of a superior intelligence with an advanced technology,
    they seem to be suffering from faulty workmanship.
    Since 1896 there have been hundreds of reports in which lone witnesses
    have stumbled onto grounded hard objects being repaired by their pilots.
    In flight, they have an astounding habit of losing pieces of metal.
    They seem to be ill-made, always falling apart, frequently exploding in midair.
    There are so many of these incidents that we must wonder if they aren't really deliberate."

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