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    Hi 777, nice to have your input and did not know your story, thanks. Interesting pov, and you were second member to mention silver disks as historical and whats going on now is much more different. Perhaps it was happening back then but we didnt notice? A few years ago a traditional silver disk (classic shape) was observed during the day above my location but unfortuantely was not filmed at the time, so they are still being seen, also some of the lighting arrays have configuaration that look triangle. Or perhaps its a newer phenomenon of ET contact that is visiting earth? Based on the interactions received and personal observations its hard for me to accept the military option as they would not commit resources ongoing to put on aerial displays & ground displays for the camera, but it is possible they might know and visit to understand th purpose of ET visitation.

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    I saw onec a helicopter flying after a orange light, i could see the light was moving away from the chopper and then it vanish.
    Another day a saw a few lights and 20 minutes later two jets kept flying above the neighberhood for 30 min.
    I think the gov know about these ones, but they dont understand it because its hard to investigate them, if they vanish when they get spotted.
    But they probaly think the gov wants to use there techn for bad intentions, wars and profit.
    Unless the people wake up and change the gov and mentality, then they dont need to worried that they will get shot.

    Amagine going to another planet and you see the species there killing each other etc.
    I think i would hide in a corner and show a few details to entities who can put that out in public.
    And watch what happend lol

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    Quote Originally posted by mojo View Post
    Based on the interactions received and personal observations its hard for me to accept the military option as they would not commit resources ongoing to put on aerial displays & ground displays for the camera, but it is possible they might know and visit to understand th purpose of ET visitation.
    I recall the richplanet episode on alien human mutilation (not for the squeamish).
    here's the link if you missed it.

    it was revealed that in the UK, the US run a covert, counter-alien program through NATO.
    the gist is that an alien presence and interactions (good, bad and the ugly) have and are occurring
    and there's not much we can do about it (unless there's some sort of secret understanding
    between the two). the job of this NATO contingency is to clean-up after interactions occur and keep
    it all hush-hush, even threatening eye witnesses.
    I know this sounds familiar, but through rich hall's contact, it's real.
    real shadow stuff.

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    Hey all , i made a fast and quik post on my blog regard the fake stars.
    http://pueiv.blogspot.nl/2014/09/fake-stars.html

    Frameshot taken with extra lux on, no digital zoom.


    Is not much but can show some pictures and screenshots.
    Enjoy

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    Then in the seventees we had the cigar shaped leviathons that looked like they'd been made in Universal studios in erm....the seventees.
    70's right enough......1870s to be precise




    http://www.ufo-contact.com/ufos-on-c...ngton1870large

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    the alien presence seems to be reality that our governments know about, attempt to manage,
    but step aside and clam up when the going gets weird.
    we're all observers, on different levels.

    in the end, it's up to us to push the envelope. no?

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    Quote Originally posted by jimmer View Post
    in the end, it's up to us to push the envelope. no?
    yes its up to us if you ask me.
    We are the gov, because we choose the gov.
    But if many are ignorant then they will follow the wolfs in sheep clothing.
    And the wolfs keep have a systeem to keep more people ignorant.
    Its up to the people who escape that systeem and change the gov.
    So the new gov can change the system.
    Then they can invest in new free energy and in space,instead of weapons and wars and propaganda to prevent others to wake up.
    Maybe then its safe for them to land next the white house.

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    Quote Originally posted by sinzzer View Post
    yes its up to us if you ask me.
    We are the gov, because we choose the gov.
    But if many are ignorant then they will follow the wolfs in sheep clothing.
    And the wolfs keep have a systeem to keep more people ignorant.
    Its up to the people who escape that systeem and change the gov.
    So the new gov can change the system.
    Then they can invest in new free energy and in space,instead of weapons and wars and propaganda to prevent others to wake up.
    Maybe then its safe for them to land next the white house.
    you are correct, sinzzer, just wish it was realistic for the majority to manage their own affairs, without big daddy gov't.
    without that grand lord surveying everything we do, free energy and real progress would be a promise, not just a dream.
    unfortunately, for most to get ahold of things, something really big and really scary would have to take place.
    a complete game change.

    not sure if we want that and what it would initially bring.

    it's still up to we individuals.

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    Quote Originally posted by jimmer View Post
    you are correct, sinzzer, just wish it was realistic for the majority to manage their own affairs, without big daddy gov't.
    without that grand lord surveying everything we do, free energy and real progress would be a promise, not just a dream.
    unfortunately, for most to get ahold of things, something really big and really scary would have to take place.
    a complete game change.

    not sure if we want that and what it would initially bring.

    it's still up to we individuals.
    I wish that to, life would have been so easier.

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    There's been an international cover up on the UFO topic since the early 40's.

    So now this is why it is so difficult for the subject to be brought out, because it's not just a matter of saying to the public: 'We're not alone and there are extraterrestrials out there.' And by the way, there's not a scintilla of evidence that these ETs are hostile, notwithstanding the rantings of the UFO community and the science fiction buffs. The issue is much more complex because it deals with hugely vested, powerful interests that are desperate to keep this thing quiet for as long as they can because of the economic, social, technological, geopolitical, and other implications of a disclosure.If they had just decided to be open about this then the world would be a better place.I have heard that we should have been using an alternative to oil from 1950 onwards.

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    Quote Originally posted by The One View Post

    Once you see these things it changes you
    I think that's very fair comment, after all that is why every single one of us is on TOT right now to a certain extent, because we have first hand experience of things that we are led to believe are not there. Where I struggle personally is taking people's guessworks as to their motives very seriously. Mostly the wishy washy new age adage that there are countless species sat invisible in our atmosphere just waiting for us to grow up and then they'll show themselves. I think of this as folly. There are already countless races and species zooming in and out of Terra all the time and have been since our earliest records. Some of these will be benevolent, some malevolent but all of them will self serving as a species. If they truly obeyed a presumed galactic/universal law on none interference then I would would have to take that right back to the very inception of our race on this planet which we all know ain't no monkey business right?!

    Baring the above in mind I can only conclude that some of the (potentially) hybrid beasts that "govern" us are no more than galactic social climbers after a gold plated prefects badge with which to show off as they zoom round the playground in their golf cart. Their mostly human subordinates just hope that one day they might even touch the aformentioned cart, just once.

    We just sit in the audience watching the stage and its' inherent mystery is staggeringly complex and beautiful....

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    Quote Originally posted by 777 View Post
    ...no more than galactic social climbers after a gold plated prefects badge with which to show off as they zoom round the playground in their golf cart.
    what a brilliant and hilarious take on these outliers.

    sure they're advanced, but that does mean they aren't punking us for a laugh from time to time.

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    Once you see these things it changes you
    And something not thought of is once you see them it's difficult to walk away from it, myself included. Hence now 5 years elapsed since those first blinkies flashing down. The first sighting goes back to 1973. Those years though lacked a serious committment and were brief outings of skywatching. It wasnt until pushing it into high gear that they showed me.

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    It would come as no surprise to me if we suddenly found out that we, as in humanity, were in fact all aliens simply having a 3d life experience on Earth.
    Our planet would be an excellent prototype to experiment mixing al types of existence before determining an after life location....

    Russ

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