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    Quote Originally posted by lookbeyond View Post
    Hi Cearna, are you able to tell me where Ivan says Jesus was from, for eg an ET or highly evolved human incarnation, thanks,lb
    The first time he appears, was as a healer, on an Island we would know as the Hebrides, only it was where it was originally, down near where the stone faces are at Easter Island. The just born islands, had only a top, no bottoms, and drifted on the tides, till it reached where it is now. This was one of the other Earth planets. His name was not Jesus. Each time he appeared he was actually the one called the First male of the First Universal Family.

    This planet was the original Earth and each time he came it was to that one. Each time he came it was to show the equality of all men. He only ever came to that Earth, yet somehow his words were felt on all the Earths, and since he called for unity to all men no matter of what persuasion, were so Truthful, that all share in the belief of what he said, for these are Universal Truths. the problem was that those who picked up the words on the etheric levels, were told he was no one who ever lived, so they went into the underground to tell of these Truths on our planet. However, the Romans took the life of these few, and in Roman language, told of what they had ideals of, so put the story into the life of that time. Not made up as such, but also added what their own deities tolf of in their Mythology, so it is a composite story with made up sour legends.

    He also went to Athens to begin a democratic way of life there.

    He also went to Spain as the head of the Church of Saints - which was one to show people how to return Home (or the Pathway of the Saints). The Saints told of the life long need to return back to from whence you came.

    In Italy he was one martyr of the infamous Tribe of Gallilee . This story also tells of a God of all.

    These are the stories found on the air waves as of a man gentle, humble and powerful enough to kill those on his own soil, who tried to claim his land towards the national interest (usually in fact the ruler), the stories are there even now, for whatever happens on that original Earth, are still going into the etheric even now.

    What should be noted is that the first female of the First Universal Family is the Abraham factor, and his lives (for there were more than one there too) were also lived on that original Earth planet, as were most of the famous of Archaic stories, as the original Earth will finally return to this one - maybe when the Cabal reach saturation point in their attempt to create Armageddon.

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    Quote Originally posted by Ria View Post
    Thanks again,
    It would seem to me that "the Fell" are not all Demonic, correct me if I am wrong, also is this not another term for The Jin.

    Demons start off as only ectoplasm, which eventually manifests as the final shape, after a total of many, many, thousands of years. The in between stages are open to question, as there is no such real shape of a Demon unless they lie on top of you, which is part of the possession they are ready to do, in which they look just the same as you do. They can also be in the shape of Mother Earth herself, for they are able to blend into whatever they are on top of. So Demons do not have any real kind, they are only what they rest on top of. The Arabic name is the Djin, the English name is Fell Spirits, the Christian name is the Devil, or Lucifer or Satan.


    So are we to understand the Fell work for the reptilians or do some work independently?

    They were originally brought to Earth by the ones we now call Annunaki, but were considered luck to every other race in the Milky Way Galaxy. Many came here via space faring nations who often used them as pets. they are small till fed on humans, who to them we become the most beneficial to them, for when fed of us, life will grow in them as a kind of DNA, which allows some elimination to occur, to keep growth happening. Their settling in Earth is because all of the humans here take in life force, so their growth is assured. Some exist as unfettled independent beings, but it was the reptilians who began the slavery of them, since their life depended on the selling of slaves. To them they don't care who they are a slave to as long as they get fed.

    How are they bound to there enslavers?
    They are sold into it. The slave trade is huge in some ET worlds. they're not too worried about who the slave is or where they came from. Many of the open worlds rely on them a worker bees are used in a hive - they do all menial work, but the fell are so much more of an advantage as they are able to self propel, lift and save time by using tele-portation.

    If they have the ability to be creative( the Fell) could they would they co-create with humans for the good of all on a free will basis, e,g, heal planet Earth. I can see the con "that the humans are the problem" and need to be got rid of.

    They are non-productive under ordinary times, and will only take life if told they have to. This is the same in everything they do, their need is to create whatever they are told to, however they can't, if the thing to be created is from the DNA of Creation ie coming from the inspired Gods capable of creating other species than themselves. The Fell cannot clear DNA properly, so anything to copy live DNA is beyond their capability.


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    [QUOTE=Ria;27346]who and what are the Fell spirits? And how do they relate to us?
    if the Fell Spirits had power, how did they get enslaved by the Annunaki?

    Their powers are not used on others unless they are told to hide and not give in.
    the Annunaki, looped them in the same way they loop Giraffe necks to catch them - if caught no resistance will they give you. If not told "I own you" the "I am free?' is the answer. If told "I own you" then they bow low, and you are soon told how much they are worth and you had better hand over the full amount or you will end your life straight away. They know what they are worth and so collect that as payment for services rendered. You take your life in your hands if you ask for a service and cannot pay their worth.

    they accepted ownership???

    As above


    "they" do you mean the Annunaki? How dose "Sirius "watch over? Sirius being a planet?.....other beings?

    The Reptoids of what ever species they belonged to. They use the whole of Sirius B as a base , in a similar way to the manner we use as an Air Force Base. They are somewhat insular in their use of this group of planets, having their own satellite regions, the rest any one might use if the price of use is paid to them.


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    Quote Originally posted by ronin View Post
    just as Carlos mentioned the flyers,lash the archons,the phsycic vampires.
    we are hearing all sorts of stories that may hold some truth.
    ask a friend what they know on this subject and they will think you crazy.
    maybe you have to experience it yourself to know there is some truth.
    when i have mentioned that people attack you,i also believe that sometimes they are unaware of it and it can jump from person to person very quickly.

    why are we made aware of these negative beings and attacks.
    because if we where not then would we believe in them?

    i remember as a child ,cannot think how old i was a older boy throwing a housebrick full pelt from about 4ft away into my face.
    not only was the action horrifying but the grin and glee in his face.
    he and his friend did some bad things and i prayed for them.for they where just teenagers themselves.

    it is like a dumbing down in a physical way.you shine and they come after you.
    they want to send you over the edge and after the physical abuse has stopped,i found they can not touch you.
    they are not allowed,torment yes and try to break you mentally yes.

    but you are equipped with a knowing that protects you.
    all you have to do is nothing i have found.
    nothing.then they run around in circles and burn out.

    all they slander you about dies,they try to make other people take a judgement of you.
    it,s true and does and has happened.
    but when you become aware of it,all i do is let them take their course and do nothing.
    sure it can drag you down,but that is the test.would you rise to their anger and hatred.(even though it might not be them).

    what we need to know is how to protect ourselves.

    hope this makes sense.
    What makes sense is what feels right to you - what doesn't is what you are seeking for.

    What you are seeking is why your fellow man is so harmful to one another. This is what has kept seekers in your meaningful existence, in fact continually seeking, for millions of years now. The Fates do not tell you what you will find at the beginning of your life, because conning you into your experiences, cannot tell you who will be for or against you. Nor can you tell yourself what to do in any of the angrier experiences. so I'll try to explain if I can, what people live and die for :-

    They're here to stop living in fear, first and foremost this is the one story in life you are told not to fear. You are going to over again. The things you speak of are in fact the results of hidden fears. The final one in your life is to stop fearing to die. why do so many fear death? It is because all of you have reacted to fear, as a result of being in fear at some time. It is the unrealistic reaction to fear that all seem to encounter through life. In some person's life it is the reaction to an unrealistic punishment - in another persons life it is the same thing, only each has found a way to react that might be just as unreasonable, but one might hit back, one might only live in terror, one might try to understand - these are our powers of survival in action.

    This has been a very unpleasant world to live in for the oppressed masses, so, some now try to make sense of it all and are finding this a very difficult task as none of it makes sense in a world needing to find love. You are not going to probe into the why's too easily without the help of your Soul or Higher Self, for each situation and person has had their own ups and downs according to their own life. Your Soul can help you by showing you without any reasoning, a parable of what happened to you sometime in one of your lives, what happened to you and how to react to it as the best solution you have found over all your lives.

    You must ask yourself, what do I try to do now, to finally not have this sort of reaction? Give yourself time in your own way, for it to shuffle through all of your memories, and it will in some way show your the result of all that shuffling - then it tells your Spirit what to do if and when you encounter a similar occurrence again.

    Then if not too sure ask only of to whom the blame lies. If not yourself, take no more time on it. This is what is theirs to come back to over again, till someone shows them -that I am not taking life from you, nor am I to blame for your own trials, so I will not accept this behaviour from you. You are somewhat the bed I have saved myself from and I don't need to lie in yours, because all you are, is showing that someone took you on once before, and it frightened you. Now seeing I am not going to fight back, you are only showing me you are fearful of the fact that I can take on life but you are not capable of living in society, unless you bash the fearful one up first.

    Don't take on what is not yours to see into - it is theirs to find that they are truly messed up, don't let them fill you with their own horrors of life. You have found your integrity, use it and hope that in doing so, it might help them to see what it is to live in a social world without having to create fear in order to protect themselves from it.

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    Quote Originally posted by ronin View Post
    question would be!
    do they exist?
    have you experienced any negative entities in whatever form?
    if you have,why are you allowed to become aware of them in whatever subtle form?

    Ronin, as you know I don't see, I do have them come in droves after me, many just recently, since I was informed they were on the rim of Earth and Archangel Michael went to check it out, they came after him and then to me. Most of them tell me they are going to kill me, upon which I put my Light up to full beam, if they are crazy enough to go into my Light they get fried.

    I have also told the story before about how I had heaps of them hounding me in my Home when I lived in Newcastle, eventually after a week of sleepless nights I stood up told them, right I was ready to take them on, brought the Force Light through my hand and sent it out (I don't need a Light Sabre, just my hands, as sometime in the past in another place I was trained over many lifetimes to become a Master teacher of the Force (believe or not).


    what i am seeing now is more questions on the airy fairy side to whence they came and not enough on how to deal with them.
    it does not matter where they came from,but how we deal with them now.
    their history of how they became Djinn,flyers or parasites that feed off our lifeforce is of no interest,when you accept the fact it is happening.

    protection and a growing awareness must be paramount imo.
    Ronin I have another thread on TOT http://jandeane81.com/threads/75-Som...-attack-on-you, which gives you some idea of what to do about attacks. I don't think you have visited that one ?????

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    The stepping up of all negative experiences has been caused due to the dismantling of the Dark Hierarchy, and as a consequence, there has been a concerted effort on the part of its unconscious membership to reconstitute its existence once more. Much that has been happening has been caused by people who have been witches, wizards, and not all of these have been or are evil today either, or those practicing the dark arts in many prior lives and because there have been very highly focused spiritual energies being brought down to the collective members of the Human race,and especially since January, ‘94, that the energies have been releasing these negative states, resulting in many people being affected by others negative energies. These dark one’s beingness is subconsciously acting out whatever is within themselves and this causes many of the dark or unpleasant experiences that many people have been undergoing.

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