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    A very interesting watch. Somebody has done plenty of homework.

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    Savile may have been an occultist, but he was certainly no wizard.

    Quote Originally posted by 777 View Post
    It conjured the "goddess" (a bitch I have met and will happily slap back to the depraved dimensional space she festers in) Lilith.
    How curious that as I read your post, my computer was playing this about Lilith:

    "That night we lay entwined on hay
    Inside a soldier's barn
    Her panting breath an opiate
    As in her bolder grasp
    I caught the scent of desert sands
    The Holy lands, the fall of reason
    But only when I smelt the blood
    Did I fear her colder hand"


    "I am darkness, I am sin
    The Queen of lust invited in
    Reborn at last to cast my
    Fecund shadow on this world,
    You shall worship me, enslaved
    For many lovers shall I crave
    And in return, I'll gladly pave
    Your psycho path with pearls

    For I have been grating
    And waiting so long to find
    The most perfect hostess close to me
    Whose thin-ice troubled mind
    Was like a cracked, black ornate mirror
    To slip right through in time
    When at last I wore Harmonia's necklace
    The cursed twin serpents mine"


    This is not to say I agree with your assessment of Lilith, I just thought you might appreciate the synchronicity :-)

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    Quote Originally posted by Seikou-Kishi View Post

    This is not to say I agree with your assessment of Lilith, I just thought you might appreciate the synchronicity :-)
    I certainly do thank you. What would be your assessment of Lilith?

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    Quote Originally posted by Seikou-Kishi View Post
    Savile may have been an occultist, but he was certainly no wizard
    Would you kindly define the difference ?

    As the public have been Harry Potter'ed definition of wizardry.

    Thank you.

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    What IS a Wizzard?

    I was FKD over by a Witch AND a Wizzard in 1991. It's a very complex story I won't go into.

    They were actually a married couple. I experienced a full on hammering by the "Witch" but the "Wizzard" was loudly silent. I still don't know what was used to do it. I'm in a place of asking anyone here to enlighten me about the mechanics of this stuff.

    I don't mean ( necessarily ) to include, say, modwiz etc in this.

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    Quote Originally posted by Ria View Post
    Would you kindly define the difference ?

    As the public have been Harry Potter'ed definition of wizardry.

    Thank you.
    A wizard is a wise person, a sage — particularly one who realises the implications of magical insight. Any old magician can, to quote Aleister Crowley, "cause change to occur in conformity with will", but a wizard knows how this works and exercises wisdom in using his talents — and wisdom usually takes the form of restraint: many who dabble cause problems for themselves by becoming enamoured of their own sense of power and sending curses in every direction. Anybody (male or female) with a sensitivity to energy is a witch (particularly extrasensory perception), anybody who practices magic is a magician, anybody who is spiritually grounded and realises the context surrounding this one life is a wizard. Somebody can be one or two of these and not the other(s), or all three. At the same time, an occultist is one who deals in what is hidden which would seem to be a good description of Savile's wretched life in light of the secrets that have come out since his death.

    You're right that by the colloquial definition, wizards are just male versions of witches, but a wise woman is no less a wizard than a wise man, nor is a male magician a wizard any sooner than a woman. The name of the modern neopagan religion "wicca" is actually just the male form of witch, so that male witches were called wiccas. The other "male witch" is warlock, which means oath-breaker (in the sense of apostate or heretic). The part of me that is disgusted by Savile might like to call him something like that, but I don't suppose Savile made any oaths to break.
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    Quote Originally posted by Seikou-Kishi View Post

    The part of me that is disgusted by Savile might like to call him something like that, but I don't suppose Savile made any oaths to break.
    Back on the Saville thing, I suspect that he was "protected". By inference, I'd assume he DID make some kind of oath to receive that protection.

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    Quote Originally posted by norman View Post
    Back on the Saville thing, I suspect that he was "protected". By inference, I'd assume he DID make some kind of oath to receive that protection.
    Yes, and I suspect he kept those oaths. How honourable of him lol

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    Quote Originally posted by norman View Post
    What IS a Wizzard?

    I was FKD over by a Witch AND a Wizzard in 1991. It's a very complex story I won't go into.

    They were actually a married couple. I experienced a full on hammering by the "Witch" but the "Wizzard" was loudly silent. I still don't know what was used to do it. I'm in a place of asking anyone here to enlighten me about the mechanics of this stuff.

    I don't mean ( necessarily ) to include, say, modwiz etc in this.
    Hi Norman,
    I have seen this a lot, a misuse of power giving a very confusing fudging of definitions.
    I bet they said thay were white in there practices.
    Also I have noted a dominnetrix predilection running through Wiccan practice at the white end of the stick so to speak.
    Sorry you got cought up in it, it's easily done, a friend of mine gave up millions and very sucsecfull career to get out of dodge.

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    Quote Originally posted by Seikou-Kishi View Post
    A wizard is a wise person, a sage — particularly one who realises the implications of magical insight. Any old magician can, to quote Aleister Crowley, "cause change to occur in conformity with will", but a wizard knows how this works and exercises wisdom in using his talents — and wisdom usually takes the form of restraint: many who dabble cause problems for themselves by becoming enamoured of their own sense of power and sending curses in every direction. Anybody (male or female) with a sensitivity to energy is a witch (particularly extrasensory perception), anybody who practices magic is a magician, anybody who is spiritually grounded and realises the context surrounding this one life is a wizard. Somebody can be one or two of these and not the other(s), or all three. At the same time, an occultist is one who deals in what is hidden which would seem to be a good description of Savile's wretched life in light of the secrets that have come out since his death.

    You're right that by the colloquial definition, wizards are just male versions of witches, but a wise woman is no less a wizard than a wise man, nor is a male magician a wizard any sooner than a woman. The name of the modern neopagan religion "wicca" is actually just the male form of witch, so that male witches were called wiccas. The other "male witch" is warlock, which means oath-breaker (in the sense of apostate or heretic). The part of me that is disgusted by Savile might like to call him something like that, but I don't suppose Savile made any oaths to break.
    Thank you for your definition, unfortunately given the current climate language is fudged, 'wizard' will be used to mean power over people, events etc. Voldemort has a lot to answer for.

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    Dark is dark, whether a depraved goddess or dark god wannabe (not that a god or goddess means zip when that energy form needs worship, when there is only one God). If they like the dark so much they should stay there and not interfere with those who are aligned with the light, as is our natural state.

    I feel pity and revulsion in equal measure.

    May they return to the light, for the one God is a forgiving God.

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    Child abuse image investigation leads to 660 arrests
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28326128
    More than 650 suspected paedophiles have been arrested as part of a six-month operation targeting people accessing child abuse images online.

    The National Crime Agency (NCA) said the 660 arrested included doctors, teachers, scout leaders, care workers and former police officers.

    More than 400 children have been protected as a result, the agency said.

    Arrests were made across the UK and the majority of those held had no previous contact with police.

    The NCA said 39 of those arrested are registered sex offenders.

    Charges already brought range from possessing indecent images of children to serious sexual assault.

    The NCA stressed that none of those arrested is a serving or former MP or member of the government.

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    Paedophile arrests
    660
    suspected paedophiles arrested
    431
    children have been protected
    39 suspects were registered sex offenders
    833 buildings searched
    9,172 devices, including phones and laptops, seized
    Source: National Crime Agency
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    Examples of those arrested include:

    A doctor, who has been charged and remains in custody over images of child abuse
    A grandfather who had access to 17 grandchildren, two of whom were alleged abuse by the man. He was taken into custody
    A foster carer, who was caring for a 12 year old, was arrested. He had no previous convictions or allegations of offending
    The NCA said 431 children "in the care, custody or control" of the suspects had been protected as a result of the arrests.

    Of those, 127 were said to be at immediate risk of harm.


    Analysis
    By Danny Shaw, BBC home affairs correspondent

    When the National Crime Agency was formed it was given unique powers to co-ordinate investigations and task police forces to carry out inquiries.

    Now we can see the impact that's having - with every UK force involved in Operation Notarise. But, as police have warned, it will take far more than arrests to grip the problem of online abuse.

    The vast majority of websites which host indecent material operate from overseas; some of them, on the so-called "dark net", are more difficult to identify.

    There is also a growing trade in swapping and paying for indecent material via organised criminal gangs. Only last month the head of the Virtual Global Taskforce told BBC News it was an "epidemic".

    It is clear Operation Notarise is only a small part of the efforts to deal with the problem.


    The BBC's Tom Symonds said the NCA had been secretive about the methods used to catch the suspected paedophiles.

    But officers had told him it was a breakthrough in the way intelligence was used and passed between the various police forces rather than a technological advance.

    'Dark net'
    NCA deputy director general Phil Gormley said sex offenders should understand they cannot avoid detection while using the internet, even on the so-called "dark net".

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    The internet is not a safe anonymous space for accessing indecent images”

    NCA deputy director general Phil Gormley
    The "dark net" refers to content that does not appear in normal search engines and users often use virtual currencies to avoid detection. According to the Internet Watch Foundation, less than 1% of its content is hosted in the UK.

    Mr Gormley added: "Some of the people who start by accessing indecent images online go on to abuse children directly. So the operation is not only about catching people who have already offended - it is about influencing potential offenders before they cross that line.

    "We want those offenders to know that the internet is not a safe anonymous space for accessing indecent images, that they leave a digital footprint, and that law enforcement will find it."

    The investigation involved 45 police forces across England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland and saw "unprecedented level of co-operation," the NCA added.

    Officers have searched 833 properties and examined 9,172 computers, phones and hard drives.

    Targeted offenders
    No regional breakdown has been published. But police in Wales said 51 people had been arrested there as part of the operation. In Scotland, the figure was 13. And in Northern Ireland there were 14.


    South Wales Police Assistant Chief Constable Nikki Holland: "We can police the internet"
    In the West Midlands there were 41 arrests, while there were 26 arrests in Merseyside. Devon and Cornwall police arrested 22. And Staffordshire Police arrested 19.

    The national policing lead for child protection and abuse, Chief Constable Simon Bailey, said: "During this operation, we've targeted offenders accessing child abuse images.

    "Police must continue to use a range of investigative techniques targeting all forms of abuse if we going to protect children and bring offenders to justice.

    "Chief officers are committed using all the tools available to them because nothing is more important in policing than protecting vulnerable people".

    Claire Lilley, head of online safety at the NSPCC said the operation had rescued children from abuse.

    But she added: "Industry has to find inventive ways of blocking the flow of such horrendous pictures which are only produced through the suffering of defenceless children - many of who are not even old enough to go to school.

    "So while this operation must be rightly applauded we should view it as yet another warning sign that far more needs to be done if we are to stem the sordid trade in these images, which are often used by those who go on to abuse children."

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    Jimmy Savile: 'He was the tip of the iceberg’ The Telegraph.
    The wide-ranging investigation into Sir Jimmy Savile’s depraved activities has focused attention once more on claims of a possible paedophile ring and a 'culture of cover-up’ on Jersey.
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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...e-iceberg.html

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