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    Quote Originally posted by gardener View Post
    Hello 777, highlander answered this very well and I think his grammar is amazing he has helped me so much just by reading his posts so don't put yourself down highlander I know grammar is important to many people but more important is if people just speak from the heart. My grammar is not of this planet as I had dyslexia and all I can do is to ask people on tot to just put up with me as best they can, I do know I am not a stupid person just because of my dyslexia and try very hard to get things correct and it does hurt me when people correct me but I can only accept that they are very clever re grammar and that is ok with me I do envy people who know their grammar, but I am very grateful because I learn a little more from them, a bit of a contradiction I guess,so thank you all on tot hope you can still tolerate me because I am so happy to be part of this wonderful forum. getting back to the main subject from 777 we are all seekers of truth which is why we can be of help to each other and respect each others opinions not in a know it all way, but in love and in friendship.as to who we pray to is for me a personal thing and we are all at different stages as far as belief goes in whatever stage we are at, we may not always agree with everything other members are saying but, they deserve respect because they are speaking from the heart and I totally agree with 777 we must take responsibility instead of holding others responsible for our own misfortunes, a difficult thing to do but if we are to be honest, then self examination is the only way to get through it.Example for me was twenty odd years ago I came across a book by an old lady called Vera Stanley Alder called from the mundane to the magnificent and I found it at that time in my life to be the best explanation of what we term as God and I would love to get a copy and read it again, but still today as far as my memory serves me I am sure I would come to the same conclusion, an amazing book could be at that time in my life, I could relate to it only because I had many similar experiences. anyway folks I apologise if I have taken up so much of your time and also to say to 777 I respect your post and thank you. gardener x
    Hi Gardenar, thanks for joining in! Please never ever be shy with us based on dyslexia and/or language barriers or a grasp of written English that isn't as intricate as the next man. None of us judge here and we read between the lines where communication is involved and it should not (and will not) be a cause for judgement. Thank you for allowing us into your thoughts.

    Quote Originally posted by Highland1 View Post

    Personally, I pray via my higher self, in part to our wonderful earth mother Gaia............within the belief that she is the portal to Source.



    Russ
    THIS is exactly what I was hoping someone would bring up Russ, thank you (and don't for a moment berate your wonderful grammar!). I never intended for my post to be preachy and to question anyone's sense of "faith" (which I also know wasn't your inference either) merely to empower or at least question the source of that power. Where one's higher self in concerned this is categorically not of an exterior source, it is by definition the ultimate source of self and sovereignty and as you eloquently put it; "a portal to source"......the macroscopic, omnipotent source of All that is! Nice one brother

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    I do as Barbara says she does. I don't base myself in 'prayer' normally ( perhaps I should ) but when the brick hits the can sometimes, I grasp at straws, I suppose.

    What I really mean IS, I don't have a satisfactory concept of an entity ( or even a "source" ) that I deliberately turn to.

    I remember , still, how I stated this very issue while under pressure to come up with a reply to a prod from a person at a 'meeting' while checking out the immortalists who used to go under the name of the Eternal Flame Foundation" ( but now seem to call themselves "People Unlimited" ).

    It went like this:

    These 'guys' have got the concept but they don't know what it is.

    Guru Maraji knows what it is but he doesn't have a concept.

    I'm with Maraji on this one.

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    I suppose we have all experienced some terrible news or trauma at some point in our lives and the usual deep heartfelt response is:
    "Oh my god", or "please god no" or "please god help me or help them" have we not?
    However, people who believe they are on the path of enlightenment are reluctant to use or believe in the man made concept or mental construct of god.
    As there are many false rewritten theological stories how we are going to be saved I suppose its not much wonder given the hideous atrocities we see committed daily by power mad greedy psychopaths.
    So we learn to delve deeper into ourselves looking for guidance or advice do we not?
    I am a little uncomfortable accepting the mainstream concept of god because he is depicted as being male.
    Creation for me, at least in this 3d world is of a totally feminine essence and on the whole I think most of us agree that Gaia is our mother source or mother earth.
    Somehow though, I suspect that the source of our origins in part does not exist in a dualistic dimension consisting of male and female gender but just one eternal infinite place of total love, equality and true knowledge way beyond our current understanding.
    I say prayers literally everyday, usually in my car of all places.
    I will not spell out the words I say, other than I pray for all things and not just my family and friends and personal needs.
    I always ask that we as humanity can somehow unite and live in harmony with all things that share our planet.
    I more or less pray for everything and everyone and try to be as selfless as possible within the hope that all OUR prayers will somehow be answered.
    I ask that there always be light to guide us through the darkness and to protect us from our uncertain future.
    So, who exactly do I address my prayers to?
    To be totally honest I don't really know but deep in my heart I feel I am connecting to something that is part of the good in all of us.
    If I was given the choice of choosing the name of this "God", I would simply call it.............. LOVE.

    Russ
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    We are synchronistic and congruent in our approaches Russ. I too do the vast majority of my "praying" in the car and I too voice them aloud. I make a distinction between praying in the conventional sense ("our father etc".....directed AT a recipient) and praying as an energetic affirmation. There is so much evidence to suggest that affirmations are merely a tool to focus the brain and mind on an outcome that is favourable and that they work! My "faith" (term used again loosely much like prayer) expands that further to encompass a dynamic magickal energy that underpins everything, and therein I have absolute faith in it's experiential success rather than viewing it as an exterior power as such.

    I think of conscious, spiritual beings as conduits of this energy who can channel it accordingly and who's affirmations access it and direct it according to how/when and why it is called forth from the unseen realms.

    I'm encountering this so much recently, with many of you where words and their accumulated connotations (such as prayer being associated with a desperate plea to A.Nother for example) are no longer satisfactory communicative tools for the concepts we have knowledge of and can further hinder understanding. Getting trickier isn't it? For example, a devout church go-er may or may not be a spiritual being. There is a general presumption that the former confirms the latter!

    Sorry Russ I'm rambling now, but you've got me all spiritually excited so to speak.

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    in primary school we where indoctrinated into saying the lords prayer in assembly every morning.most of you will remember this and this also followed on to secondary school.
    roughly about the age of ten i remember get angry at god and ripping up the bible,page by page.the reason being that i prayed to him at that time and never was there a instance or reply.
    i prayed for him to sort and help our household out,i prayed for other people for him to help.
    after i ripped that bible up i felt guilt and also that god had turned his back on me.i felt this for such a long time after.

    but something deep inside also i felt.there is no him(god with a white beard).
    have faith because it walks your journey with you and will never leave you.
    you have to go through what you need to go through to learn and experience.

    this was a intuition many years ago.

    i still prayer in my mind pretty often and it would be usually be for other people.
    as there are always other people worse off than yourself,and i,m no angel by all means so when praying sometimes you feel unworthy of any help.

    now this may seem contradictory,because i feel or know i returned to source last year.
    and all source wants is your development and experience,you decide most of your life if your allowed and it is the choices you make in this life that you will return with.
    then when you return,you may wait a while in notime then decide to experience a whole new lifetime with different choices.

    then there is a prayer i say every now and again.

    source help heal me psychically,mentality and spiritually.
    so that i may become the person i was meant to be.
    so i become the person i was created to be.
    help me so that i may help others.

    yes sounds contradictory but that's where i am at with prayer.
    i don,t see it as a man with a white beard anymore but more of a energy that surrounds everything.
    it,s a matter of tuning or raising your frequency to that energy.

    but a humble prayer from time to time won,t do anyone any harm

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    Quote Originally posted by Highland1 View Post

    ....usually in my car of all places......

    Russ
    Ain't that just the real place for being who you are as the individual who was born alone..... and will die alone.....

    I often shout at no one but myself, in the car. I tell myself to get a grip... or whatever....

    Why in the bloody car...?

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    who are we to judge anyone.
    do have adhd?dyslexia?a mental illness?
    or just think out of the box?
    the one,s we should watch are the one,s who think themselves as sane!


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    Quote Originally posted by norman View Post
    Ain't that just the real place for being who you are as the individual who was born alone..... and will die alone.....

    I often shout at no one but myself, in the car. I tell myself to get a grip... or whatever....

    Why in the bloody car...?
    For me several reasons norman.
    I pray whilst driving to work through beautiful Yorkshire countryside, teaming with greenery and wildlife.
    I can appreciate this beauty whilst driving combined with my prayers of thanks.
    Not only that, I have a large family and it is so peaceful whilst alone in my car without noisy distractions!
    Not only that, but the crazier side of me believes that even my vehicle is another extension of myself who takes me to destinations of my choice and yes....I pray for and thank my Volvo too!

    Russ

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    Quote Originally posted by norman View Post

    Why in the bloody car...?
    Because driving takes the logic out of the brain so you can take a birds perspective..
    Back in the day when I was still very uncertain about my way of visioning. I had my best results whilst driving. somehow the act of driving lifts some of the neurolgy involved in keeping the veil in place..

    With Love
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    Have a great day today

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    Yes, experienced drivers don't drive consciously, but subconsciously. Hence, many who drive the same route every day often get home and don't even remember what happened en route. Driving is often the only time people enter a trance state, and so praying when driving is not a strange thought.

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    my prayers if such a word is appropriate in this context are for thanks for all and everyone on the one truth forum.
    i have met like minded souls, and by reading,watching and trying to understand all and everyones posts, thoughts,and inspirational videos i feel i am amongst equals but am truly humbled by all and everyone. my unconcious prayers have been answered, i am walking and talking with my own kind jj

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    I often brim over with a sense of gratitude and reflect on this gratitude, but I can't say I consider it is directed at any particular thing. If it is directed at all, it is directed inwards to my connectedness and radiated outwards. The sense of gratitude is usually not a specific sense — I'm not grateful for anything in particular — I am just grateful. The feeling is a good, healing feeling and I often feel grateful for feeling grateful, lol.

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