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    To Whom Do You Pray?

    Greetings TOT

    On the former site I made a thread called: "A Plea For Energetic Sovereignty" that was catalysed by a couple of fascinating conversations and experiences with a healer who used to post on here and who's name I shall refrain from bringing up as she has left us since. This thread was basically aimed at getting us all (myself included) to recognise our full power (awful, crude word that has connotations towards ego, whether intended or not) and step into that power as sovereign beings of the multiverse.

    Well, much time and experience has passed since I made that thread and I wanted to revisit it with a further accrued perspective and (in a way) re-emphasise the motives that I initially engaged therein.

    In a nutshell, I am a hypocrite and I shall tell you for why if you have the patience and/or inclination to read/listen.......

    As human beings we suffer from a mostly self induced (yet partially inflicted) disgruntlement at the world around us that we seek to reconcile by apportioning blame onto others, sometimes even an older version of ourselves. We subjugate at the first hint of difficulty so that a third party may take pity on our "poor little me" state and sort out the disgruntlement for us. "This isn't my fault and it's ruined everything, it was his/hers/theirs/yours so there's absolutely no way I can manifest the empowerment to sort it our for myself". We revolve in a cycle of dissonance where we should evolve out of it, by challenging it and breaking said cycle, provoking the harmony that we were supposed to be.

    It's always the governments' fault isn't it? Those pesky reptiles that have had us enslaved for thousands of years undermine our ability for change don't they? You don't have the home you want or drive the car you wish (if indeed at all) thanks to the Zionist banking cartel that pins your pockets to the wall while it saps the sustenance from holes that were sewn before you were even born. Diminutive, sexless, soul less excuses for beings lift us into crafts and take samples of our physicality, unhindered, unchallenged and unimpeded because they can....well we can't stop them can we? It's our lot in life right? A night with incubus or succubus is common folly for the human victim, come on jump on, I'm fair game. The man/lady doth not protest.

    Poor little human. Poor little victim. Poor little us. Poor little me.

    But apparently there is a solution. Allegedly we can pray to a deity. We can perform rituals whereupon we invoke the spirits and presences of higher beings who can extend a hand into the pool of our woes and fish us from it's stormy waters. We can ask our spirit guides for assistance by inviting them into our Souls for a coffee hoping they may be able to help. Angels, there's another one. An endless menu of theistic delights await the victim human, all salivating, waiting for their meaty fill of adoration and energy.

    WHAT ARE WE DOING?!?!

    So, let me just get this right. We won't accept personal responsibility because after all it wasn't our fault. So, we have negated our power in the first instance of acceptance. Then in a further attempt to perpetuate our victim state, we not only continue to ignore our ability to service the issue, we actually have the naive ignorance to donate all of that energy to an unseen, unproven entity that is exterior to ourselves.... thus extending the gap further between the hollow shell of a human we have become and the connurbations of manifested reality we have projected into existence by feeding them with every morsel of nutrients we have. Wow. Most of us don't even know we are doing it, myself included. I have become so pre-occupied with bolstering the power of other exterior entities with my own stupid obedience that I have forgotten who I am......who we are!

    In my view we are incredible, beautiful, emotional, intelligent, wonderful, spiritual beings in a temporary vessel we know as the body. We are not only capable of infinity, we ARE infinite. We did not require the helping hand into this world and we will not require one when we leave it, so why oh why do we not pause for a moments recollection, just once or twice a day and remember who we are? And remember that we need no helping hands during this exciting interim within which we have been placed. We are the very definition of potential. Do you think we have to be enslaved because we are lost in simple servitude? I say "NO"! We are enslaved because there are those who are terrified (bless em) of what we are and what we will become. There are countless races on planet, off planet and interdimensionally that want us to step into our potential but it is a step we must take.

    My plea to you is this: If it isn't yours why do you want it? Take refuge in your own abilities and seek solace in your own sovereignty. No-one or no thing can take that away from you unless you give it away like some trivial possession (dual pun very much intended). It's yours, keep it, be it. Take your humanity back.

    I love you lot you bunch of weirdos.

    :unity: ,

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    It comes down to personal courage, courage that you believe in yourself. This is where critical mass is helping, an unfortunate paradox for the controllers, enough is enough, hold the line, carry "OUR" light.

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    By pure coincedence Ben,
    I started a thread of the same title on the original tot forum called "To Whom Do You Address Your Prayers To" and in a bizarre round about way, it was similar in content to your thread here but without your advanced grammar! lol.

    Anyway, despite not saving the original thread my impetus, and others I guess too, would be so different today to what it was 2 years ago!

    Personally, I pray via my higher self, in part to our wonderful earth mother Gaia............within the belief that she is the portal to Source.



    Russ

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    Quote Originally posted by 777 View Post
    Greetings TOT

    We did not require the helping hand into this world and we will not require one when we leave it, so why oh why do we not pause for a moments recollection, just once or twice a day and remember who we are?
    You are right, the part of the human anatomy that helped us into this world is not called hands.
    I have stopped praying to anything or anyone, and somehow I don't feel confident enough to start praying to me?
    Who am I. In the end i seem to feel that anything that happens is life experiencing itself through itself. The me part is just a figment.

    With Love
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    Have a great day today

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    Quote Originally posted by Highland1 View Post
    By pure coincedence Ben,
    I started a thread of the same title on the original tot forum called "To Whom Do You Address Your Prayers To" and in a bizarre round about way, it was similar in content to your thread here but without your advanced grammar! lol.

    Anyway, despite not saving the original thread my impetus, and others I guess too, would be so different today to what it was 2 years ago!

    Personally, I pray via my higher self, in part to our wonderful earth mother Gaia............within the belief that she is the portal to Source.



    Russ
    Hi Russ!

    She is the portal to source, but so are we, source is all around us, it is what we feel when we feel love.

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    Hello 777, highlander answered this very well and I think his grammar is amazing he has helped me so much just by reading his posts so don't put yourself down highlander I know grammar is important to many people but more important is if people just speak from the heart. My grammar is not of this planet as I had dyslexia and all I can do is to ask people on tot to just put up with me as best they can, I do know I am not a stupid person just because of my dyslexia and try very hard to get things correct and it does hurt me when people correct me but I can only accept that they are very clever re grammar and that is ok with me I do envy people who know their grammar, but I am very grateful because I learn a little more from them, a bit of a contradiction I guess,so thank you all on tot hope you can still tolerate me because I am so happy to be part of this wonderful forum. getting back to the main subject from 777 we are all seekers of truth which is why we can be of help to each other and respect each others opinions not in a know it all way, but in love and in friendship.as to who we pray to is for me a personal thing and we are all at different stages as far as belief goes in whatever stage we are at, we may not always agree with everything other members are saying but, they deserve respect because they are speaking from the heart and I totally agree with 777 we must take responsibility instead of holding others responsible for our own misfortunes, a difficult thing to do but if we are to be honest, then self examination is the only way to get through it.Example for me was twenty odd years ago I came across a book by an old lady called Vera Stanley Alder called from the mundane to the magnificent and I found it at that time in my life to be the best explanation of what we term as God and I would love to get a copy and read it again, but still today as far as my memory serves me I am sure I would come to the same conclusion, an amazing book could be at that time in my life, I could relate to it only because I had many similar experiences. anyway folks I apologise if I have taken up so much of your time and also to say to 777 I respect your post and thank you. gardener x

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    TO WHOM DO I PRAY?

    Honestly, I wasn't raised in a religious household, so I rarely pray - - EXCEPT when I'm in deep trouble, THEN

    I PRAY TO ANYONE WHO WILL OR MIGHT LISTEN! HELP ME, SOMEBODY, ANYBODY!

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    Answering the question who do I pray to , it's weird but for as long as I can remember I have presumed those that will hear my call will be my ancestors and I am linked deeply to them and I pull from their strength . Sounds odd but it's what I've always done !

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    People who scorn dyslexic people for their language are pretty miserable. We would not berate a one-legged man for not running the marathon.

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    Quote Originally posted by Seikou-Kishi View Post
    People who scorn dyslexic people for their language are pretty miserable. We would not berate a one-legged man for not running the marathon.
    It's a good job too , or I'd be to scared to post ! Never mind be a moderator ..Gardener , your right also that when writing from the heart , it is easy to feel the post and see beyond the grammatical errors etc. I really fought hard to not be shy and silent because of my dyslexia ! I totally value intent. xx

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    It took me some time to find out who do I pray to. I don't even know how long because as Babs said I pray to the one who can hear me. Well I finally realized that somehow this being is in fact me. It does make sense to me, I've been observing the invisible helper who had always heard my prayers and had always managed to give me more than I could imagine. Who knows me better than my own self, who can understand my needs better than my own self, who can provide me with so many synchronicity?
    Ben, you said this beutflly
    We did not require the helping hand into this world and we will not require one when we leave it, so why oh why do we not pause for a moments recollection, just once or twice a day and remember who we are? And remember that we need no helping hands during this exciting interim within which we have been placed
    Indeed this is so true the only thing we need to do is to connect to the "whisperer" to listen and talk.

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    Quote Originally posted by Tribe View Post
    It's a good job too , or I'd be to scared to post ! Never mind be a moderator ..Gardener , your right also that when writing from the heart , it is easy to feel the post and see beyond the grammatical errors etc. I really fought hard to not be shy and silent because of my dyslexia ! I totally value intent. xx
    I can join you too. I am not dyslexic but English is my second language and my husband who is English used to say that initially I was talking Yoda English . It is a little bit better today but I still need to make efforts to express my thoughts and feeling the way they reflect what I mean.
    Sorry to divert you post Ben but wanted to join the club too.

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    All my life I've been stuck on what is prayer? A request for help when we feel helpless?

    If there is a need for help, either for myself or others, I do what I can...or if nothing is obvious, I retreat to the silence of meditation. Sometimes a simple change of perception makes a difference...sometimes just having someone who understands beside you helps, even if not a word is spoken. The "answer" is always there...just difficult to see when you are in the midst of a situation.

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    Prayer is a broad term that encompasses many ideas. At the least healthy, it is a direct request for aid from outside forces. It could, however, just be a time of focusing the mind as a way of taking control when the mind is behaving frantically. When the mind is in such a state, inspiration from one's own higher self is blocked out like static disrupting the wireless.

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    I have prayed all my life. My prayers have evolved through the years and to whom I have addressed them also. "What is prayer" would be a good question also, as the meaning would differ to each of us I am sure. I tend to pray in gratitude and blessings most of the time, but I do have my requests for help. I pray to God/Goddess, the Universe, my angels and guides, my relatives (ancestors), and more. It all depends on what my intent is. Coming from the knowledge that we are One, a spark of Source, then I pray to myself and I pray to you. I know that I Am infinite power and asking for help does not diminish this in any way. Let's say I have a heavy something to move and I ask my neighbor for help... To me it's all the same.

    I no longer blame others for any of my "disgruntlement" (had to look that one up.. hehe), well most of the time. I do catch myself sooner when I do. I owe it to deep shadow work and to Ho'oponopono. I take responsibility for many things. If it's in my life and it bothers me, then I take responsibility. The first time I heard (read) "Je suis désolée. Pardonne-moi. Merci. Je t'aime. (I'm sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you. I love you.)" I went ugh? and re-read the chapter thinking I missed something, because I thought... why is he saying that? It's not his fault! I didn't even know this was called Ho'oponopono at the time, but I knew it was very important. I can say that over the years, this tool has helped me immensely.

    It seems to be accepted when someone demeans themselves. But if I say that I am a beautiful powerful being, then I would be full of myself ? Ha! I must be too sexy ...

    I would like to leave you with this

    Our Greatest Fear

    It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us.
    Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate.
    Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure.
    It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us.
    We ask ourselves, who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented and fabulous?

    Actually, who are you not to be?

    You are a child of God.
    Your playing small does not serve the world.
    There's nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you.
    We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us.
    It's not just in some of us; it's in everyone.
    And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same.

    As we are liberated from our own fear, Our presence automatically liberates others.

    —Marianne Williamson

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