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    the question must arise.
    what are you looking for?
    many seekers are not happy with themselves and the world around them.
    they have a intuition that this is not all that it is.
    we know that everything that we are is a manufacture of the ptb.
    we also know of our intuition.

    the teachings of christ where not wrong,but do we follow them?
    is christ consciousness available for all?

    is god as we perceive him a man with a long white beard or a idea?

    to live in this 3d realm there are rules that we must abide for the physical body to survive.
    the veil of forgetfulness has just hindered our true potential.

    like a child maybe it is in our nature to rebel against our authority.to find out for our self maybe.
    then only when we realize we did wrong and start to look within to find ourselves.

    only then do we actually see our true potential of the beings that we are born and meant to be.

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    Quote Originally posted by 777 View Post
    Ahhhh sorry I'm with you now. Absolutely! Or planted from the start. In such a tangled web of confusion it's notable that such a prolific figure would rouse suitable suspiciousness and be dealt with accordingly.
    The fact that he was taken before the highest law people to be sentenced is a little suspicious. I would have expected a man that was taking the **** out of what everyone else believed and stood for, would have been dealt with long before it came to a high court issue.

    It smells of precision management to me.

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    Quote Originally posted by norman View Post
    The fact that he was taken before the highest law people to be sentenced is a little suspicious. I would have expected a man that was taking the **** out of what everyone else believed and stood for, would have been dealt with long before it came to a high court issue.

    It smells of precision management to me.
    and you believe in the highest law of the people.
    our laws are they any different,the people vote for a politician and are they not all corrupt?
    was Jesus not trying to tell us something?

    precision management to eradicate anyone or anything that opposed their believes.

    what teachings would you prefer?the ones we have now.
    or the one that states find thyself?

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    Quote Originally posted by ronin View Post

    and you believe in the highest law of the people.

    errr..... no.

    errr.... I think the precision management was all about bringing in the new dark worship era.


    other than that, I don't seem to understand much else from your post yet.

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    Quote Originally posted by norman View Post
    errr..... no.

    errr.... I think the precision management was all about bringing in the new dark worship era.


    other than that, I don't seem to understand much else from your post yet.
    me neither.just rambling sorry.

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    Quote Originally posted by norman View Post
    errr..... no.

    errr.... I think the precision management
    was all about bringing in the new dark worship era.


    other than that, I don't seem to understand much else from your post yet.
    I think we're all having a brain spill that text doesn't assist other than crude communication. The bolder part is exactly where I'm at with JC except that I think the dude was duped and had genuine interest in good. Just my tuppence. I have no adherence to "his" teachings.

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    Been reading all the posts. Quite interesting and fascinating. Amazing how we all try to grasp everything, to try to understand and also how we try to interpret the existence of Christ. Many have different opinions. Which is fine. The main thing is... There was someone that was here to show the way of Love, respect and equality. The beauty of this world. And the controllers at that time did not want that. They did not want people to hear the truth. They wanted to rule the world. They still do lol. Hiding the truth by what they thought was a good way... The bible. The bible is based on lies and truth. Just how many times was the bible rewritten? Was it done to suit their needs? We all interpret the bible in our own way. I have read many books of different religions. And they all spoke of one enlightened being. Similarities of each one in all the books. If we are all God's children as stated then we all have God inside of us. All of us have the code/DNA within ourselves. As for Christ being crucified or not will remain a mystery. The only way to know is to travel back in time. But the way I see it and understand it... Christ survived whether he was crucified or not.

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    I refuse to call the Nazarene "Christ" or any phrase that includes that word. "Jesus" is a name, "Christ" is a title. Even if I accepted that he existed, it does not follow that he is what is claimed. Son of God? Son of God knows who, more like it. The b*****d child of a penniless harlot.

    So much of the gospel's accounts of the birth of Jesus are complete fabrications. The body of Jewish prophecy said that the Messiah would be born in Bethlehem, so Jesus's family in Nazareth had to be magically moved to Bethlehem so that this requirement could be met (since Jesus was claiming to be the Messiah, or his followers claimed it of him). And so the bible says that the emperor called for a census for the purpose of taxation and everybody had to return to their ancestral homes. Thus, Mary and the Divine Cuckold journeyed to Bethlehem where with a characteristically Catholic rotting of the spirit their poverty is celebrated as God himself is born in a barn.

    Of course, no such census took place around that time and in any case, there never was a census in the Roman empire in which people had to go home. That would have been logistically impossible in that era. It'd be practically impossible in this one, even with intercontinental trains, aeroplanes and cruise-liners. The whole Christian story has the look of desperate bronze-age illiterates desperately trying to make their mismatched puzzle pieces fit. Thankfully, all the gaps are filled by the delirious and self-deceiving faith of the credulous. Sure, Jesus is the Messiah. Jesus is the son of God. Indeed, Jesus is God itself. Immanuel used "Jesus" as his legal name because Mary couldn't afford the Imperial tax on the letter M.

    Here's a lovely, delicate and reverent poem I wrote about a decade ago:

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    From what I've read, I think Paul was a schmuck. If he was a real person, then he was an agent of Rome that wanted to consolidate the vast numbers of "Christos" believers.

    When I read the journeys of Appolonius of Tyre a long time ago (I think that's the spelling of his name and he was a real person) who lived around a thousand years before the writings of Paul's journey is identical to Appolonius....only in reverse. Fancy that twist!

    Joseph Atwill's new book (touring UK peddling it) studies the history of the Jewish Wars and travels of Julius Caesar in battles. YT has many interviews with Atwill to listen as he claims JC's travels line up with Caesar's battles with the Jewish Wars. Interesting...Jesus Christ and Julius Caesar have the same initials.

    Also, Frank O'Collins Ucadia websites have reference to the Pope who said something along the lines: "Our invention of Jesus story brought us a lot of riches".

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    This speaks to me,

    Amen...

    Edit: dogon....

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    How to cause disharmony and control in the world produce a religion and a book depicting the life of a man who was essentially a magician and create so much fear for believers and disbelievers alike and we will have them eating out of our hands ! Anyone's heads spinning ? Good it's working then !!

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    I am god ,but when you are too ,we are two.

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    Quote Originally posted by tonton View Post
    I am god ,but when you are too ,we are two.
    Shouldn't that read 'I am God, but when you are too, we are One'?

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    Quote Originally posted by 777 View Post
    Can I ask everyone here (without judgement or attachment to anyone's answer) do you actually think Jesus was real?
    Me: yes. But I believe what I have been taught; that he took pains to leave no written documents and much of what he taught was misunderstood by his disciples who were still very much wedded to jewish tradition.

    God: old man with white beard?
    My god is the infinite substrate from which everything we know is formed. And because we are finite beings within an infinite we are, in comparative terms, infinitesimal.

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    For me, Jesus is very real. He has walked this earth and was crucified, like many others in those times. I know because I was there, but I lost the link that Malc found for me once to prove it. LOL

    I was born in a catholic family like most of the French Canadians. My family didn't go to church a lot, maybe 2-3 times a year for Easter and such. In my early 20's I was evangelized and became a Baptist. I was looking for answers then and was seduced by the talk of the love of Jesus for me and the family settings of this church. I read the bible many times from Genesis to the Apocalypse in those days. Then the veil dropped and I saw how all of this was just putting blinders to my eyes. I was very hurt and felt at loss because you see, Jesus had always been my friend forever. I've had many dreams of him in my childhood. I vowed then that never again would I be trapped in a religion. It took many years before I could go back to him without feeling guilty of some shortcomings. Then I finally understood that Jesus had nothing to do with religion.

    I never liked Saul and something told me that he was a fraud. Today I look at the bible just like any other book. I still like Ecclesiaste... "Vanité des vanités, tout est vanité..." and some of the psalms. Is this new gospel of Barnabas real of not, I could not care any less. It does not matter to me.

    After many synchronicities, I was put in front of the book, Anna, grandmother of Jesus, from Claire Heartsong. When I read it, I understood many things. It is a channeled book, but you still may want to check it out if you feel a calling.


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