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    'I think Burning man is just todays Woodstock, which was a CIA mind control psy-op, anyone not familiar with that story needs to & look up Laurel Canyon too..

    Couldn't agree with you more Twirly, everything is manipulated.
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    BUNDY RANCH IS A POWDER KEG - ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN

    Federal hired contractors still holding high positions surrounding Bundy's land picking off cattle. Massive graves found with dead cows. FED contractors still shooting Bundy's cattle and appears there are IDF involved. not verified, highly likely according to sightings. Oathkeepers/Militia want to do their own thing; suspect they've been infiltrated by agents. Many don't know Reid is part of the global Mormon click or understand Mormon connection with Globalists.

    Treasonous Harry Reid Says 'Something Will Happen' to Stop Cliven Bundy!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EgtY...ature=youtu.be

    Lord Sid will love this one: *
    These rat *******s set a trap for the ranchers and one of the oldest tricks in the book. I said before, Bundy’s lawyer screwed him when he filed in 1994 Federal Court. (Read former Congressman Traficant speech from this post linkback: http://jandeane81.com/threads/2651-S...ll=1#post20595

    CLICK HERE FOR SPEACH FROM THE FLOOR
    When Congressman James Traficant (a former Sheriff from Ohio) exposed it again on the floor March 17, 1993 they conjured up false charges against him and tossed him in jail 7 years to shut him up. http://anticorruptionsociety.files.w...-the-unite.pdf

    *Read this http://sfamerica.net/2014/04/
    Do Nothing if you feel your threatened. Don't Volunteer
    All civil court action is a "fiction of law". The “ALL CAPITAL" name is a fiction corporate entity. All corporations are dead.


    Another look at the Bundy’s family history (also read my former post Mormon connection)
    http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com..._bloodline.htm
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    What a world .... what a world ...



    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7GJcKuVGm8



    Not surprisingly the full force of the bankster minions are being brought to bear on Bundy.


    Yep (there cowpoke ) he could have used better judgement in some of the last couple days of remarks gone viral on mainstream ... and that is sad.


    He had so very many from so many places on his side and coming to defend his stand against the feds gone wild.


    This doesn't help but clearly shows the intent and full power of the banksters to control the information flow ...



    http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/vi...t-two.cnn.html
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    the cliven bundy story has been abandoned by most
    of the media and pundits over his 'negro' comments.

    turns out the new york times and other media edited
    his remarks to what -- fit the space or fit their narrative?

    here's the rest of the full story and his remarks.
    not such a racist after all...

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    Just because the fire appears to be out, does not mean the embers are glowing.

    This powder keg is real big when you factor in what has been going on with Texas ranchers BLM (Boone Pickens & Water) the past 2 decades and still going on with the ranchers....as well in Nevada. Lot'sa videos and background on internet.

    Don't know who is counseling Bundy; however, he had a golden opportunity to expose the Act of 1871 and everything the crooked politicians did at Federal and State level since then. What possessed him to even think about discussing a hot topic as "race" the media could spin in circles?

    I could be wrong, but I don't believe he is ignorant of this. Before this happened, the ranch income barely covered expenses. How will the family survive? He is the last rancher standing. All the others have been picked off one by one the past 20 years. The real estate transfer (questionable sales?) transactions are a joke. (theft)

    We shall see...read former post about Mormon connection.

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    More Mormon connection. Glenn Beck is a MBT. (Mormon Bible Thumper or Mormon Big Time)
    http://www.infowars.com/judas-goat-g...riot-movement/



    Nothing but the truth direct from Sheriff Brad Rogers

    http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative...h-2945570.html

    Another one setting the record straight writing to our "do nothing" Corrupt Congress

    http://www.tpnn.com/2014/04/26/ted-c...-land-dispute/

    Did you take the time to read all of this?
    Thank you.
    http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative...h-2945570.html


    Scroll down and read Ammon Bundy’s April 22, Tuesday comments to USA Today readers.
    He has not given permission to republish. Why? I cannot do a copy and paste. If his father said this when he had vast media coverage instead of “race” comments the media spin ran with, perhaps the MSM would have been forced to cover properly. I continue to hope the truth were told about the Civil War, Lincoln establishing Martial Law without authority with Executive Order #1
    https://www.federalregister.gov/executive-orders
    All subsequent King Actors continuing Martial Law with their "Enabling Acts" so called "Executive Orders" bypassing Congress late 1700's, followed by Act of 1802, Act of 1871, etc., etc. Hitler pulled the same trick with his Enabling Act to validate the claim that everything he did was legal.

    http://bundyranch.blogspot.com/searc...max-results=50

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    HELP - YOUR HELP IS NEEDED




    Can anyone help with computer smarts? There is a video on TOT link that “Storm Clouds Gathering” made and then took down. Don’t know why?

    In it he showed all the links he found getting removed from the internet about the politicians involved with the Bundy Ranch. He started out using wayback machine first; then he showed 2 other websites he uses to retract info. Waybackmachine gave nothing when he used it, then went to the next website to retract and nothing; the 3rd website he used was a hit. Because he took his video down, what he did and how he did it is now lost.

    When I went to post the image on TOT of RAT balls Harry Read presenting an award to Nevada Sheriff Gilespie, that has happened with only 8 Sheriff’s in the history of the US. If my memory is working the award was presented early this year or early last year.

    Here is the link it was posted on. This needs to be exposed showing the corruption of both RAT SCUMS; SHERIFF GILESPIE AND HARRY REID to devalue an important award for political criminal purposes.

    http://www.jrn.com/ktnv/positively-l...251338201.html
    Here's the message I saw when I went back to post it 3 minutes later.

    Page Not Found
    We're sorry, there was something wrong with your HTTP request or the page you requested does not exist. Please try back later. If you have any questions or comments, please contact your Client Services Representative. Thank you for your patience.
    It was gone when I went back to get it to post on TOT here: http://jandeane81.com/threads/2651-S...ll=1#post19802


    I do not have any accounts to get in touch with “Storm Cloud Gathering”. Can anyone with YT or FB accounts contact him and find the name of the other websites search engines he used on the video demonstrating how he pulled up what they deleted?

    When you listen to the interview Joyce Riley did with Sheriff Mack I posted below, you will understand why this is so important.

    THIS WAS STORM CLOUD GATHERING'S VIDEO

    Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFiosLqjoQQ

    Published on Apr 14, 2014
    There are some very powerful people who have done their best to cover up what really happened at the Bundy ranch in Clark County Nevada. Fortunately they failed.
    Sources and full script: http://scgnews.com/bundy-ranch-what-y...
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    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRvV4foC4po

    Published on Apr 15, 2014
    SHERIFF RICHARD MACK joins
    in on the conversation to discuss the Bundy Ranch Standoff.
    Websites:
    www.libertyroundtable.com
    www.usaprepares.com


    OVER 500 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED BY TASERS. BLM SHOT AMMON BUNDY 3 TIMES AS HE STARED THEM IN THE FACE. HE SAID THEIR EYES WERE COLD AND LIFELESS.

    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aR2OhxU3GI



    Debroah Tavarez & Ammon Bundy w/ Jeff Rense 4.14.14
    Published on Apr 17, 2014
    [Oath Keepers] Action Alert: Boots On The Ground Need Donations for food and water at Bundy Ranch Standoff


    Oath Keepers is asking all who cannot make the trip to the Bundy Ranch in Nevada to assist this mobilization by donating for food and water for the "Boots On The Ground" who will stand to oppose the idiocy of the BLM/federal government. Whatever you can send will be a blessing for the Patriots out there in the Nevada landscape. Just as in any military combat operation, the supply lines are extremely important for victory. You are the logistical support for those on the front line. Please know that your generosity is as important as the presence of the Patriots who are standing out there on the land. And also remember, whether you can donate for the logistics or not, your prayers for our victory are also important.
    [Continue ...] http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2014/04/1...
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    Quote Originally posted by Sparky View Post
    Can anyone help with computer smarts? There is a video on TOT link that “Storm Clouds Gathering” made and then took down. Don’t know why?
    Here's stormclouds explanation of why he took it down.
    -----------------
    You might have noticed that we took down our video on the Bundy Ranch scandal. The video was doing very, very well. It was very popular, but at this point I'm convinced that it had a very significant factual error.

    Whether this changes the entire picture will really depend on what we find looking at it more in depth, but I feel that it would be irresponsible to leave it up in its current form. Especially in the current context. I am going to begin working on a replacement video only after completing a new investigation.
    ------------------------

    Here's the replacement video..
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    Eelco, perhaps I wasn't clear. What I want is what was taken down from here:

    Here is the link it was posted on. This needs to be exposed showing the corruption of both RAT SCUMS; SHERIFF GILESPIE AND HARRY REID to devalue an important award for political criminal purposes.
    http://www.jrn.com/ktnv/positively-l...251338201.html
    Storm Cloud showed a demo on his video how he retracts things taken down. I don't know how to do it and have to get some sleep as I've got to be up in 2 hours. All I want is a screen shot of what was removed with rat ******* reid presenting an award to slimy sheriff gilespie. Sorry, don't have time to watch your video now as I've need to get some rest.

    Here's a recent video from a man who spent several weeks at the Bundy Ranch and interviewed Clive Bundy.

    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjqdiWqhEeQ

    Published on Apr 25, 2014

    The AmmoNation saw that this story was not being covered by the mainstream media so we packed up our gear and headed West to Bunkerville Nevada. We didn't just report the story...we became part of it.
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    Sparky, it wasn't taken down it was just an incomplete address, the full one being http://www.jrn.com/ktnv/positively-l...251338201.html

    I got this from googling "reid presenting an award to slimy sheriff gilespie", I don't bother typing such stuff into a search engine I just left click over the words in text (on your post) & then right click which gives various options, one of which is a search.

    Heres some text,

    (the pic won't post )

    CREATED Mar. 20, 2014

    Las Vegas, NV (KTNV) -- Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department Sheriff Douglas C. Gillespie was named by the National Sheriffs' Association as the winner of the prestigious Ferris E. Lucas Award for Sheriff of the Year 2014.

    Of the 3,080 sheriffs in the country, the award has only been given to 18 people since 1995.

    The award will be presented to Sheriff Gillespie on June 22 during the opening portion of the 2014 NSA Annual Conference in Ft. Worth, Texas.

    Gillespie, a 33-year LVMPD veteran, was elected in 2007 and leads more than 4,700 sworn officers and civilian employees. He is responsible to the safety of nearly 2 million residents and 40 million visitors a year.

    On Thursday, Senator Harry Reid presented Sheriff Doug Gillespie with a Congressional Proclamation for being selected Sheriff of the Year.

    This presentation took place in Senator Reids office located in the Lloyd George Federal Building.
    Same story also covered here in slightly more depth, http://crookedamerica.com/sheriff-do....QO1CCHtJ.dpbs

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    The purpose of this video is to sort through the tangled web of information and rumors circulating regarding the questions of corruption and Harry Reid's involvement in the Bundy Ranch showdown. We will also address a error in our previous video on the topic "Bundy Ranch - What You're Not Being Told".
    UPDATE: It turns out that the law firm that Harry Reid's son works for, Lionel, Sawyer and Collins, is in fact the legal representative for First Solar.



    The purpose of this video is to sort through the tangled web of information and rumors circulating regarding the questions of corruption and Harry Reid's involvement in the Bundy Ranch showdown. We will also address an error in our previous video on the topic.

    Alright so there was this article that claimed that the siege of the Bundy ranch was about was really about fracking leases. It referred to this article on shalereporter.com which actually referred to land sold in Eastern Nevada, and Clark county isn't in Eastern Nevada, so that's clearly not the same land. At this point the author has to be aware of this mistake. Leaving it up like this without correcting the mistake is really bad. I'm still having people send me this.

    We had some unsubstantiated rumors claiming that "There are developers working for military contractors that want that land and water for mining weapons grade minerals for industry... they want to sell the land by the highway for real estate development because it's close to I-15". Again this claim isn't even coherent. Military contractors like blackwater don't buy land for mining.

    Now for the troublesome story. That the showdown in Nevada was really about an underhanded business deal involving Senator Harry Reid, his son, the BLM and a 5 billion dollar solar energy plant.

    The first source we referred to was Reuters August 21, 2012, which does indeed go into the details of a shady business deal involving ENN energy that Harry worked to push through. This is a reputable source, and it tells us a lot about how Senator Reid operates. Just one problem: the project fell through in 2013. ENN isn't in the game anymore.

    However there still several issues here that remain. We have the web page that was taken down from the BLM website and which someone quickly deleted from google's cache. This webpage mentions that the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone's mitigation strategy as one of the justifications for seizing Cliven Bundy's cattle. You also have the fact that the current head of the BLM, Neil Kornze, is Harry Reid's former adviser and as the Senate majority leader directly participated in his confirmation, and to make things even more interesting we have the fact that it was revealed this past week that the FBI had been attempting to investigate Harry Reid on unrelated corruption charges, but they were blocked by the Department of Justice.

    We also know from this article from the LA Times that Harry Reid has a long history of finding creative ways to funnel money towards family members, and we have the well documented case of his attempt to push the ENN project through for his son Rory Reid via Reuters. So the question isn't really whether Harry Reid is corrupt, the question is whether he had a hand in the Bundy ranch debacle.

    Now there are some people who have formulated an alternative explanation tying Reid to the BLM's move against the Bundys.
    That the standoff is about solar-industry crony capitalism, but just not ENN.

    That narrative revolves around a company called First Solar. First Solar is running quite a few solar projects in Nevada, one which is planned for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone. The company apparently has been heavily subsidized by the Department of Energy, there was a scandal when a CEO from First Solar sold off 450 million in the company's stock even though the company was floundering miserably (Reuters claimed a lower number than Rep. Mike Kelly), and one of it's top executives James Hughes (aka Jim Hughes) just happens to be one of the unindicted conspirators in the Enron case. First Solar seems to be a questionable company, but how all this is supposed to connect to the Bundy case is very, very blurry.


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj4fqtLMrS4


    Now on March 6th, the environmental advocacy group Defenders of Wildlife filed a lawsuit suit against Neil Kornze, head of the Bureau of Land Management for his role in pushing through two massive solar projects that they say is going to devastate the tortoise habitat. According to an assessment released by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service in 2013, the two projects, which are owned by First Solar, are expected to displace, injure, or kill up to 2,115 federally Threatened desert tortoises. So while the BLM is attempting to claim environmental concerns to push the Bundy's off the land they've fast tracked projects that literally raze the desert completely destroying all wildlife.

    That information is interesting, but it doesn't prove that Kornze made the decision due to a conflict of interest, and it doesn't prove that Harry Reid was involved.

    UPDATE: It turns out that the law firm that Harry Reid's son works for, Lionel, Sawyer and Collins, is in fact the legal representative for First Solar.

    If we had strong evidence connecting Harry Reid to First Solar then we might have a case, but no one has posted any hard evidence tying Reid to First Solar financially as far as I know. There are some who have pointed to a small campaign donation that one of the executives of First Solar made to Reid some years back, but that claim wasn't very well sourced, and even if it was it would be very hard to make the case that this would be enough to drive Reid to pit the BLM on the Bundys years later. Others have posted this article showing Reid in a ground breaking ceremony for the Moapa Paiute Solar project, but that doesn't mean anything. Participating in a ground breaking ceremony for a project like that is normal for a Senator.

    It may very well be that if we could look at Reid's financial statements, investments and the investments of his family members we might find something. Unfortunately the public no longer has access to that information online. We don't have access to that information because of a law which Harry Reid himself introduced. The bill (S.716), which was passed on April 15, 2013 modified the STOCK Act repealing the requirement for the congress and executive branch employees to post their financial disclosures online where they could be read by the public. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/s716



    It may be a total coincidence, but it's interesting to note that Harry Reid passed this law after the scandal regarding his son's stake in the ENN project, and right before the ENN officially backed out.

    I'm sure we would have learned all sorts of interesting things if the FBI corruption probe into Harry Reid's dealings hadn't been blocked by the Department of Justice. It's important to be clear here though that it may be that if they investigate him it is possible that they would turn up all sorts of dirty laundry, but nothing that relates to this situation. We can't know that, and we shouldn't make assumptions.

    So was Harry Reid the man behind the Bundy ranch crackdown? I don't know, and I'm not going to pretend that I know unless I see solid evidence one way or another. If you have evidence you're welcome to send it to us on our facebook page or on twitter, and we'll look at it.

    Now some people were angry with me for taking down the last video. Some claimed I was cowering to these guys or that I was being threatened by someone, or intimidated. Listen, I know that makes better television, and it's less humbling than having to admit a mistake but it's just not true. No one sent me any threats on this particular issue and even if they had I don't bow to those kinds of tactics. I do however bow to reality. No one ever wins a fight against reality. You might think you win, but you actually just become delusional. So if someone shows me evidence that destroys one my arguments, then I must change my stance. Period. I don't view that as optional, especially if you're dealing with information that's being spread to the public. Because if you don't correct yourself, there's a lot of people that are going to assume that the false information is correct.

    That's what the mainstream media does. They get things dead wrong all the time and rarely corrects themselves. In fact more often than not they build on their faulty information and keep referring back to it as fact.

    A good example is sarin gas attacks in Syria. We have the U.N. investigator Carla Del Ponte who went public saying that the evidence they found indicated that it was the rebels behind the attacks and that there was no evidence whatsoever that the Syrian government was involved and yet you'll still see Western politicians and the mainstream media referring to that attack as a justification for measures against Assad.

    Unfortunately the alternative media has a really bad habit of doing the same thing. For example this article which originally went viral covering the Reid connection hasn't been taken down or corrected even though the authors are fully aware that the ENN project has been shelved. We know that they are aware of that fact due to another article they posted mentioning this fact. The article claiming that this was all about fracking leases is still up as well, and hasn't been updated.

    People are still linking to these articles as evidence, people are still sending this stuff to their friends. That's really bad.

    If we get something wrong we have to take it down otherwise we're spreading disinformation, and we can't just take it down and pretend like nothing happened, because if you do there are going to be people that didn't notice that you took and down and are going to continue spreading the wrong information.

    We can't compete with the big corporations in terms of budget and equipment, all we he have going for us is our commitment to telling the truth. If we lose that we have nothing.

    Note: I wish I could have gotten this correction up sooner, but my daughter had a stomach bug and that disrupted our schedule significantly last week.

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    I must have missed something, but wasn't the sheriff a bundy supporter?
    I heard him early on say that the BLM should leave the area.
    what happened? what did I miss.

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    BUNDY RANCH: Desertion, Deception, and Destruction

    Lets not let this slide out of awareness


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kWF5f_LZP0


    Published on 30 Apr 2014

    How do you break up a movement? How do you destroy support for a cause? Gary Franchi breaks down the latest from the Bundy Ranch story.

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    Quote Originally posted by Spiral View Post
    BUNDY RANCH: Desertion, Deception, and Destruction

    Lets not let this slide out of awareness


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kWF5f_LZP0


    Published on 30 Apr 2014

    How do you break up a movement? How do you destroy support for a cause? Gary Franchi breaks down the latest from the Bundy Ranch story.
    Bundy was only a racist on lamestream media, where his words were edited out of context. Only dependable alt-news networks are worth watching. Rhodes, of Oathkeepers, skeedaddled when he thought a drone strike was coming. I guess he ran out of clean underwear.

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