Russia Engaging US Troops in Ukraine?

[Sooz]

Special Alert by Ben Fulford:

http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/

http://www.drudgereport.com/

http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/1.577037

[norman]

I've just got back from my local pub where I had a decent chat with an ex special forces guy I know.

He said this. There are 50 dead russians in that Crimea airport already, they just don't know it yet.

He said, our sas have been all over Ukrain since this stuff started, they'll kill every one of them.

Ok, I thought, I'll keep an eye on this, I hadn't thought of that...... yikes, this might be bigger than I thought it was.

[Sooz]

Could there be a link here?

Apparently this author, Grady Means, is former assistant to VP Nelson Rockefeller -

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...2014/?page=all

[Sooz]

Interesting, but use your own discernment:

http://financearmageddon.blogspot.co...14-war-in.html

[KosmicKat]

I find it interesting that the mainstream news quotes Barack Obama warning Putin "not to interfere" in the Ukraine. The common assumption being that Russian troops would intervene to assert soviet communist principles again. But what if he was saying "don't try to oppose the forces that the U.S. and U.K. have sent to try to stabilize western interests in the area"?

[jimmer]

I don't think this is beginning of the 'end times.'
there are those who during times of instability
jump on the 'end-of-the-world' screed.
what I do think -- due to the strength vacuum created
by obama and his supporting countries, putin's russia
is on the move. warships to be stationed all over the world.
some, 90 miles off the coast of the US.
developing...

[BabaRa]

Complicated, yet . . simple. Two major issues involved: 1) Security 2) petro dollar/oil

Petro dollar scheme was set up in the 70’s (US and Saudi Arabia) whereby if any country wanted to buy oil they had to first purchase US $$ to buy it.

*Because of US irresponsible monetary policies, US is most toxic currency in the world, therefore countries no longer want to buy what used to be valuable currency

*24 of the world’s largest economies have set up currency swaps amongst themselves passing the US $$ – which makes US monetary ponzi scheme more difficult to keep going. (most likely reason for recent bankers suicided – they had too much info)

*At the same time, Saudi’s oil appears to be drying up, so they can’t produce what they use to

*Russia (the largest oil producer in the world) makes deal to sell oil to China (at a discount, which then has China by passing the petro dollar). Russia then buys oil from Iran (who is having trouble selling their oil) and then sells it to Europe, again by passing petro $$.

*Turkey is buying oil from Iran now, using gold as currency. Again, petro $$ by passed.

*Guess what country Russia’s oil pipeline to Europe goes through? Ukraine .. .If Russia loses Ukraine pipeline to Europe it will lose 25% of it’s GDP

*Interesting timing: Protestors create havoc in Russia just before Olympic Games, so Russia is focused on making Sochi safe. Meanwhile, things begin to break down in Ukraine. While Russian military/police are focused elsewhere. hmm, nothing suspicious there!

So hopefully we all understand why US wants Ukraine to go with EU – it’s all about petro dollars and keeping the Ponzi scheme going

As for Russian security:

*Ukraine borders Black Sea where Russia has a major seaport and naval base. If NATO had access to Black Sea it would be detrimental to Russian security.

*US already has huge missile defense systems surrounding Russia (in Turkey and Poland) allegedly in case of war with Iran. – and Putin has already made public remarks about those systems being aimed at Russia.

* Russia’s own topography leaves it vulnerable in the West and depends on the Carpathian Mountains in W. Ukraine as a natural defense.

According to several geopolitical experts: No Way is Russia going to give up Ukraine. If they lose Ukraine, they lose much needed security AND 25% of GDP.

Some of my sources: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-FKaqxA1e0 Beginning around the 1:50:00 mark and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG7PUa8oz8M 5 min video

[Wolf Khan]

It is actually a move against the federal reserve board, you should all know that, nothing is what it seems.

[Sooz]

Very astute boil-down there BabaRa.

[Sooz]

This update, just in:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-0...l-combat-alert

[BabaRa]

It is actually a move against the federal reserve board, you should all know that, nothing is what it seems.

I'm not clear who you're saying is making the move against the Federal Reserve. If you're saying it's Russia, I would agree, because Russia has been trying to cripple the petro dollar, which is tied into the Federal Reserve and tptb who have controlled much of the world through the Federal Reserve, World Bank and IMF.

[Sooz]

Interesting, but use your own discernment:

http://financearmageddon.blogspot.co...14-war-in.html

Interesting that Fulford alludes to March 4 collapse (as per the previous post re Grady Means), at 4.15 mark.

BF also says certain things were agreed at the G20 here in Australia recently, i.e., confiscating money.

As usual, we wait and see...

[Seikou-Kishi]

Interesting that Fulford alludes to March 4 collapse (as per the previous post re Grady Means), at 4.15 mark.

BF also says certain things were agreed at the G20 here in Australia recently, i.e., confiscating money.

As usual, we wait and see...

Personally, I can't wait until Fulford releases his second book. Apparently Ben Fulford and the Chamber of Secrets is going to contain some real gold :-p

[Altaira]

Yes 3.2 magnitude and there is doubt it is man made mmm...

http://quakes.globalincidentmap.com/

[Altaira]

Yes 3.2 magnitude and there is doubt it is man made mmm...

http://quakes.globalincidentmap.com/

mods can you delete this please