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    I watched the extended version of this video and took notes on it.

    This is just what stood out for me but it save someone from watching the whole thing maybe (an hour and 13 minutes for the extended version):


    Two fathers of early rocket science are cited: Hermann Oberth and Wernher von Braun. Quotes are attribted to both of these men suggested that they were getting technical information or other assistance from an advanced race.

    Oberth: "We cannot take the credit for our record advancement in certain scientific fields alone. We have been helped." When asked who has helped us, he replied, "The people of other worlds." [A specific reference was found outside of this documentary: Robin Collyns, *Did Spacemen Colonize the Earth?* London: Pelham Books, 1974, p. 236.]

    Von Braun: "We find ourselves faced by powers which are far stronger than we had hitherto assumed, and whose base of operations is at present unknown to us." [A specific reference was found elsewhere online: *News Europa,* Jan. 1, 1959.]

    [Both of the above two sources were found at <http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/fire24.htm>. Other quotes there include Douglas MacArthur, quoted as saying "The nations of the world will have to unite - for the next war will be an interplanetary war. The nations of the Earth must someday make a common front against attack by people from other planets," (*The New York Times,* Oct. 8, 1955) and Dr. Walter Riedel, who said "I'm convinced that saucers have an out-of-world basis." (April, 1952, *LIFE* magazine, p. 96.)]

    Secret societies interested in the advent of the Age of Aquarius are said to have rose to prominence in Germany after the First World War. These societies believed that civilizations of the past had attained a technological level superior to that of their own time.

    One author, a man named Edward Bulwer-Lytton, wrote a fictional book entitled The Coming Race about the discovery of an advanced race living inside of the Earth, that had withdrawn to that location after being driven from the surface by a catastrophe. He called them the Vril-ya, and the term "vril" for an advanced energy source apparently originated from this book as well.

    The Thule and Vril societies took such ideas seriously and sought the equivalent of this vril energy in order to create German military superiority and end German dependence on fossil fuels that were dominated by the US and Britain.

    The Vril Society is said to have traced its origins back to a group of Bavarian Gnostic Templars called the "Lords of the Black Stone" and dating back to 1221 AD. They studied Sumerian and Babylonian writings and employed a symbol depicted a winged bull which is said to be a reference to the constellation of Taurus. They are also said to have met face-to-face with beings from Aldebaran during the Middle Ages.

    The Vrilerinnen was also formed around the end of WW1: a team of 5 young women claimed to be psychic and wearing their hair very long in order to enhance their abilities. In 1919, one of the girls belonging to this group, Maria Orsic, is said to have met with the Vril, Thule and Black Sun societies to discuss telepathic communications she was having with a race that was willing to offer the Germans advanced technology. These beings are said to have been from the Aldebaran system, in the constellation of Taurus.

    The communications being telepathically received are said to have been written down, and were in the form of an ancient Germanic script, as well as Sumerian cuneiform. When translated these writings are said to have been instructions, basically for creating a flying saucer.

    After some years of working with the information gathered from the channeled texts, the RFZ II was successfully flown in 1934. The 3rd Reich is said to have taken over this work later, designating it to the SS E-IV. [A source online says that the SS E-IV was the "Entwicklungs-Stelle IV der Schwarzen Sonne" and studied alternative energy. "Schwarzen Sonne" means "Black Sun."] This craft is said to have been flown on reconaissance missions across the Atlantic Ocean by 1941.

    A description of the basic operating principles of these types of anti-gravity craft (or rather generating their own gravitational fields) sounds very similar to ancient Hindu texts describing the vimana. They are said to have been able to become invisible as well. A more militarized version of the RFZ II, known as the Vril-1 "Jaeger" Fighter was then developed.

    In 1943, Maria Orsic of the psychic womens' group claimed to have received information that there were two inhabitable planets in the Aldebaran system, and that Sumeria was linked with Aldebaran explorers. The Sumerian alphabet is said to have been phonetically related to German and was also linked to the beings of Aldebaran. Furthermore, a wormhole was said to link their system with ours, and in 1944 a Vril VII ship was sent into this "dimensional channel" and is said to have returned with damage and looking as if it had aged 100 years.

    A Polish POW in Germany is said to have witnessed German saucer craft decimating an allied bomber fleet in 1944 at Schweinfurt.

    Late in the war the SS is said to have taken control of all operations of such advanced craft and began to move them to Antarctica. Germany began moving top scientists and other important individuals to New Swabia in the Antarctic, which had been annexed by Germany in 1938. Around 1945, Maria Orsic is said to have distributed the message, "None are staying here," to all members of the Vril Society. This is her last known message and apparently she disappeared from history after this.

    The Allies are said to have been very aware of German advancements, and even after Germany's formal surrender in 1945, Allied military commands were still wary of Nazi holdouts in Antarctica. At this point in the documentary, Operation Highjump, a US military expedition to Antarctica in 1947 under the command of Admiral Byrd, is related. Freshwater lakes heated by thermal springs are noted to have been found during this expedition. The expedition is said to have been equipped for an 8 month stay but returned after only 8 weeks instead. It was rumored that the US forces had come under catastrophic attack by advanced saucer craft.

    Later in 1947, in September, another US military expedition was launched to the North Pole. Saucer craft are said to have been once again reported. [Note that 1947 was also the year that Roswell occurred, in July.]

    James Forrestal, who had appointed Admiral Byrd to Operation Highjump, retired from his position in 1949 and went on to become a member of MJ-12. He apparently was against secrecy, and was eventually sent to a psychiatric hospital, fell from a high floor and died. His death was ruled a suicide.

    The Germans were also apparently working on a "cigar" type craft called the "Andromeda Machine" which was over 300 feet long and could contain 3 of the smaller Vril craft. UFO sightings following WW2 frequently featured ships matching these descriptions. As Nazi Germany is noted to have had close ties with Argentina, it is remarked that UFO sightings are common occurences in South America to this day, and that there are many stories of secret German military bases in the mountains of Peru or deep in the Amazon in Brazil.

    The Billy Meier case is mentioned in this documentary and is apparently taken seriously, though the source of the ships Billy allegedly seen is questioned, as to whether or not they may have been more modern German craft rather than extraterrestrial.

    The Rockefeller Foundation is said to have spent $139,000 in 1946 on the creation of a history of WW2 that omitted any reference to secret societies or occultism in Nazi Germany and their influence upon events there.

    Reference is made to the possibility that the Germans may have detonated a nuclear weapon as early as 1944, in the Baltic region.

    Roswell is said to have been the crash of a Nazi craft. Because admitting this to the general public was deemed unacceptable by military leaders, multiple layers of disinformation revolving around an extraterrestrial crash are said to have been created. The basic idea presented near the end of this documentary is that after WW2, the Nazis exerted covert influence all over the world using advanced technology. Part of this covert international infiltration included the incorporation of ex-Nazis into the CIA after WW2.

    When Eisenhower warned of the military industrial complex, he is said to have been warning of the Nazi infiltration into US institutions.

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