Rhosgobel Tent At TOT

[modwiz]

A breif explanation for some lack of continuity in this thread, especially last night. We had a thread that was not visible to the public going that focused on getting our post count up to 100k. We had a handful or more members working feverishly to get it done by a set time. It was great fun and brought a great sense of teamwork and unity that had never cohered quite in the way we did before this endeavor.

We have a feature on our forum that posts that occur shortly after each other are merged into one post. So two posts would be counted as one if they were too close together in time. So, we used multiple threads to get around this feature. This thread was one of those "relief" thread so any sense of continuity with the normal ambling of this thread was slightly interrupted.

We did achieve our goal and more. Once I get my wind back from that output this thread will return to the usual musings and conversations.

Obviously, this post was for the viewers who are not members and could not see the other thread and how it was all tied together.

[modwiz]

I have enjoyed this Islamic scholar for some time. Morris108 is a friend of his and occasionally interviews him. He has broken a long interview into bites based on the topic discussed. Here the Sheik discusses the Saudi-Iran proxy wars and what is the underlying strategy and perils of it. He is an intelligent man and worth spending some time with, IMO.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN7jh_MaHWM

[Elen]

I have enjoyed this Islamic scholar for some time. Morris108 is a friend of his and occasionally interviews him. He has broken a long interview into bites based on the topic discussed. Here the Sheik discusses the Saudi-Iran proxy wars and what is the underlying strategy and perils of it. He is an intelligent man and worth spending some time with, IMO.

It is wise to look further into Islam without preconceived ideas...

[modwiz]

It is wise to look further into Islam without preconceived ideas...

Especially the Sufis. They are coming from their hearts without deviating from The Koran. What they extract from it is really quite beautiful. In the video above he states clearly that the Saudi royal family is not Muslim. They are the keepers of the satanic Wahhabi sect that has the madrasas that teach their twisted form of Islam and are the basis of Islamic movements like the Taliban. All of the jihadis are from this mindset.

With their money they, the Saudis, open them, madrasas, all over the world in Islamic countries and have acted like a cancer. They exploit the often poor administrations of Islamic countries like Pakistan. The warlike Afghani tribes are just primitive for the most part and the Madras acts as a nexus with their funding in a dysfunctional country. Iran only has small groups of ineffective ignorant men joining them. Syria resisted the problem well enough that they had to be imported. That is why Russia is allowing for legitimate Syrians with grievances to have a seat at peace talks but, they exclude the jihadis. The West is always trying to sneak the latter into the talks. Without funding from Western aligned countries, and the West itself, this plague would go away as a movement of consequence.

[modwiz]

Even a subject like Koranic eschatology is interesting with this man. He is also well versed in Christian and Judaic scripture.

Eschatology /ˌɛskəˈtɒlədʒi/ is a part of theology concerned with the final events of history, or the ultimate destiny of humanity. This concept is commonly referred to as the "end of the world" or "end time".

This was uploaded June 6 of this year. As they are give him his microphone to begin the video, he is caught speaking to someone and he says "So, you don't shove religion down anybody's throat. You don't force anyone into submission to the truth. That, is a lot of rubbish." LOL. Great opening lines. He believes the Koran contains the truth so, his opening lines are key to understanding his heart.

To help understand the beginning of this video. The Sheikh is using the name Iblis and is referring to his refusal to bow down to Adam. This being is also called Shaitan, and gets conflated with Satan. However, Ibliss is a Jinn. The Koran has a complete Sura/chapter, on the Jinn. I think Islam gets the Jinn confused a little bit but, it still has relevance. Zoroaster called them Daevas and spoke of two kinds. Designated as neither good or evil but, separated in those who gave good counsel and those who gave bad counsel. He advised ignoring the bad counsel without making them evil.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_dmv6CK3ts

[Joanna]

One of my favourite Sufi quotes:

"Even after all this time, the Sun never says to the Earth, 'You owe me.'
Look what happens with a love like that,
It lights the whole sky."

~ Hafiz

[modwiz]

The videos above are for more about the world situation from this wise man. I cannot recommend them enough. He speaks wisdom and they are not lectures about Islam. He is quite a character and a natural speaker.

[Dreamtimer]

I really appreciate you sharing these , Modwiz. People are so disjointed with their knowledge. It'll be good to have some more useful info to hopefully share.

[modwiz]

I will post this article mainly for the picture as the article is not so informative and is by Gordon Duff.



http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/07...nsions-theory/

[modwiz]

Well, Iceland is really showing the way forward on a number of fronts. Yay Vikings.

Populations are torpid and do not speak their resentment to the goobermints. This results in goobermints pursuing policies that some or many of the population may not support. If the protest does not come from within then outside voices are welcome, IMO. My joy with Iceland's move is not without regret for decent Israeli's who might suffer because of this.

Icelanders vote to join boycott on Israeli goods

Iceland’s capital has announced that it will boycott all Israeli products until Palestine is freed from occupation.

On Sunday, Reykjavik’s municipality voted for the boycott, and promised to continue the embargo “as long as the occupation of Palestinian territories continues.”

The vote is part of the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement against Tel Aviv, which was initiated in 2005 by over 170 Palestinian organizations that were pushing for “various forms of boycott against Israel until it meets its obligations under international law.”

http://presstv.ir/Detail/2016/07/03/...-palestine-bds

[modwiz]

Let us start with this quote:

“No people will tamely surrender their Liberties, nor can any be easily subdued, when knowledge is diffused and Virtue is preserved. On the Contrary, when People are universally ignorant, and debauched in their Manners, they will sink under their own weight without the Aid of foreign Invaders.” — Samuel Adams, American Founding Father

I put this here to make a point. This quote is before, fluoride, chemtrails, dumbed down schools and whatever excuses people make for the friends, family and neighbors not being more engaged. Ben Franklin's quote about the American people being given a republic, if they can keep it, all points to people being their own worst enemies. Debauched in their Manners particularly pertains today, as it did over 200 years ago. Even in the Symposium I host twice weekly the familiar refrain, in defense of friends and family, is schools, fluoride and chemtrails. And of course, the media. The internet, and almost universal usage of it, allows any interested party to stay ahead of the lies. It is lack of interest that plays the biggest part in ignorance.

Protecting our friends and family is an instinctive response and is admirable if it actually protects someone. When it enables, and by that enabling, places the collective in greater peril from lack of situational awareness, that admirable trait doesn't look very good. Educating ourselves enough to conduct remedial action and/or preparations becomes paramount.

I am new to my town but, I am learning who the movers and shakers are so that a meaningful discussion, based on solutions and new thinking, can begin. I am already making inroads and it remains to be seen if allies can be found. A handful a good friends with knowledge if who might help has become a humble beginning.

Needed to get that off my chest.

This article may be worth the time.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/07...lobal-citizen/

Some of it.

Now for the good news. Lately the Cabal has stumbled with Brexit and with the creation of BRICS, the AIIB, the SCO. The SCO is the new Shanghai Cooperation Agreement with China, Russia, and now Pakistan and India, previous long term enemies brought together at the time of the Brexit vote by a common rejection of the Cabal’s private central FIAT Banking system which they expect to fail. And there are numerous new trade deals between many nations that are not based on the use of the now doomed US Petro Dollar. All these nations involved in these new banking and trade systems without the US Petro Dollar are now forming a strong financial firewall against private Fiat western central banking.

A significant portion of the nations of the World are now hip to what the Cabal is and how it is empowered by the private central banking system which has been their main financial parasite. These nations have reacted and responded by forming their own private trade arrangements and alternative banking systems.

If Americans continue to wake up in mass as has started, thanks to the deep penetration of the Internet’s Alternative Media, this will add to the pressure now being exerted by the rest of the world on the Cabal. Such pressure can actually break the control systems of the Cabal not only at the alphabet agency level but at the street level too.

[modwiz]

Back when this tent was erected, it quickly became a hang out thread. Conversations were ongoing. Times change and the tent has become a monologue. So it is time to try to create a topic that will stir people in a way that will lead to conversation or debate. I will have to proceed with thought and care if it is to succeed. First a Middle Earth moment.

The Istari were sent to Middle Earth not for the Elves but, for Men. (Gender neutral)

Thoughts toward a topic are percolating and some cooling and settling would be wise before laying the those thoughts out.

When one embraces Sophia as their Sovereign deity one embarks upon a path of gnosis. A knowing based on thoughts entertained that seek deep understanding that pertain to the Anthropos, or Earth Human, and its development. We are on a cusp of great potential, a latency within our genome, in the physical sense. It lays within our morphogenetic field and is available at any time, yet that availability must have a resonance to be activated within our bodies. It has to do with proper alignment of subtle bodies and therefore our chakras, and understanding what they signify and work together to create a coherent phase conjugation, are a key to this.

Think of phase conjugation as the notes in a chord. One can play all kinds of notes on a piano without phase conjugation. The simplest chords have three notes and three note chords are not sufficient to resonate with our potential. A three note chord is phase conjugant, just insufficiently so. However three notes is a good start and even the basis for building a richer superimposed chord. Coordination of the first three chakras is like that base that needs to exist. Knowing the how consciousness of the first three coordinate within our bodies and psyches cannot be overestimated. Getting that basic simple construct into proper harmonic "tuning" will balance the emotions with the mind well enough to build upon. Chaos must be assembled into coherence.

Now, the heart, and its consciousness, is where gnosis arises/comes into us. This knowing will assist in providing the understanding required to bring the lower three chakras into harmony with the heart and thereby with themselves. I am aware of the psy-op about the chakras being bad or an insertion. The motive behind such a meme is obvious to me. It removes the crucial tool we have, even require, to move to our next phase of being. Like flat earthers who feel wise for for embracing their "new enlightenment", I have seen, through videos and posts read, people who seem to feel removal of chakras, if possible, was worth their while. Even if just to try it for comparison. They are experimenting. Flat earthers would be fine with me if it were not for the urgency and sense of superiority that seems to exude from them in written word comments and videos. That is my issue with it, the attitude that creates a division.

With regard to aligning our subtle bodies, it can be done on a round or flat Earth. Love and music and be made on either shape as well. Although I believe the Earth is round, for my own reasons, I do not insist on it for the aforementioned reasons. What is truly important in life can be pursued on either shape.

I will conclude this post here. It is a bit of a preamble. There is more cooking. I have some things to share about men and women that need very careful consideration before posting them. This is not meant to be a discourse on subtle bodies.

[Elen]

Flat earthers would be fine with me if it were not for the urgency and sense of superiority that seems to exude from them in written word comments and videos. That is my issue with it, the attitude that creates a division.

With regard to aligning our subtle bodies, it can be done on a round or flat Earth. Love and music and be made on either shape as well. Although I believe the Earth is round, for my own reasons, I do not insist on it for the aforementioned reasons. What is truly important in life can be pursued on either shape.

Well said modwiz, it doesn't matter what shape of the Earth people have in their minds, as long as we reach our human potential despite of it. I like that, you are building bridges for the world.

[Cearna]

Can I come in on an entirely different tack to the same question that you are in a way positing. When I began, I had in fact as a child locked away all of my gifts and talents as a child, because I felt I was very much under threat from darkness very close to me, separate from the anger and hostility shown by my mother. I had actually, put a padlock on every talent, and his them within my body, then hid the keys elsewhere. When Ivan arrived he had little to no chance in helping me much, except that Reiki had released in me the ability to use ESP to hear what he had to tell me. Over a very concentrated short time, I had to spend effort to release each individual talent from their hiding place and then had to release it's appropriate key to him so that he could unlock each padlock and put everything back where it ought to be.

Now I will go back a little before this, I went one day to have my very first re-birth, during which my third eye opened up, I had no idea what that was, it had happened before under hypnosis. Two weeks later, I suddenly realised, it was OK, I didn't have to die any more, but I was not going to live my life any more the way I had until then. At that moment, I decided that, I had no idea what kind of a life I wanted to live, so I opened myself to the possibility that I was not going to ever limit myself in the pursuit if finding what I could be and do if I just let it happen. From that, apparently, I opened Pandora's Box, for I was suddenly granted a new Soul Pathway, from Above, because, I was allowing any and every possibility to come into my life

These two things to me are the lynch pin to being able to do what you have just begun to describe. These two things are opening yourself to all that is and allowing it it to happen including the possibility of failures and hardship and hurting and feeling the gammut of all which includes what you have just mentioned, the real Beyond what most think is beyond them to achieve or contemplate including all knowing of that which maybe only you, yourself wishes to find. the second part is having faith and trust to continue going, no matter what, that if you allow faith in yourself and whatever comes, adversity or not then the flow of life comes to you and through you - hence your words above.

I began to also have faith that each person was their own miracle, and so I ran a couple of workshops, which was all I could fit into my life at a time, to allow the participants, find out that if, they too, open themselves to the possibility that they can and will be able to do all sorts of things they had never seen the possibility of in themselves, that they actually could do it. We included, drawing with pastels, or crayons (to save time), writing and various methods of healing which they did not know, but allowed to flow through themselves. No one was unable to do any of these things when in the safety of the environment we offered.

Ivan's belief was sufficient for me to simply "know" that if I needed to do something, all I had to do was stand on my own two feet, and allow myself (my hands, my mind my words, etc) flow, and suddenly I could use my crystals or energies or begin to chant in words I still don't know what I say, or anything. I call it my "automatic Pilot" that which I came with, my inner knowing, which would guide me into what was needed at the time. It never lets me down. When one of the Gods asked me how far up into he beyond, do you think you can go, I didn't know. I had already gone higher than that God had ever gone. So I shrugged my shoulders, said lets find out, grabbed Ivan to hold onto, grabbed the Goddess of Light to guide us with her Light, and of we went using my Mars as the guiding energy to propel me. I went to places, no one from Earth had ever been to before -in fact the Goddess of Light had never been there before. This is not imagination, no ego on my part, we went through layer after layer of the Beyond. I'm not stupid, or in lash lah land of the pretty lights, these things are possible. I simply say for most things I am now doing this and I do. In, the case of you you are speaking in #4077, if I wish to do what you are speaking of I simply say, I am now doing this, and I do, I am lucky, yes, I am a volunteer from Above to do service here, as are you I know, and we are allowed to have the use of what we have fully available to us. But those who came to me for this experience, could all do it too. It's there, and it is tangible and achievable for those who are open and allow the impossible to be possible. Love to you Rad, go explain it, I just do it, but you have the words to explain.

[Aianawa]

Struts into thread, vid blows sparks in head here and there, will return when functioning returns, holding head- limps away-swaying

ps TA