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[Eelco]

Have a great fuzzy day..

I''l go of and work a bit for the man.. I will.

WIth Love
Eelco

[Eelco]

Would it be safe to assume that Venerable shares a ground in the word veneration?

meaning that all those venerable buddhist monks out there are really f. ...able?

no wonder they took refuge in celibatism.

with love
eelco

[Eelco]

Thinking about this a bit more. Synchronistimystisising about the distortion of words by voldemortists.
Veneration in which divinity was found in the communinion with a priest or priestes. Could have been a very powerful, almost sacred act of worship in days where sexuality had none of the " bad" connotations it has now.

How better to shatter this divinity than by replacing it for celibacy..

With Love
Eelco

[Seikou-Kishi]

Thinking about this a bit more. Synchronistimystisising about the distortion of words by voldemortists.
Veneration in which divinity was found in the communinion with a priest or priestes. Could have been a very powerful, almost sacred act of worship in days where sexuality had none of the " bad" connotations it has now.

How better to shatter this divinity than by replacing it for celibacy..

With Love
Eelco

Oh definitely. It certainly wasn't a judgement on my part. I just find it amusing that the term is still used by the successors of the Roman cults, i.e., the Catholic church. The pope addresses fellow bishops as "venerable brethren", which roughly means "f**kable brothers". This would be hilarious, considering priestly celibacy, were it not for the way bishops have systematically covered up the rape and sexual abuse of children. It is a recurring theme in rape and abuse perpetrated by priests that the vulnerable party (often disabled adults, too) are convinced that their sexual submission to the priest is required of them by God and that by doing as they're told and keeping quiet about it, they're moving closer to God.

This is far too close to the ancient practice of veneration by sexual intercourse, except of course it is *******ised in the Christian version and is not a willing act on the part of the devotee who, in ancient times, would have sought out a priestess, rather than have been coerced by one. In the ancient practice, the devotee initiated the sexual intercourse, not the priest or priestess. Both parties could decline, particularly the priests/priestesses who, not being the initiators, were the ones left with the choice. Finally, the act was undertaken freely to express devotion, and not enforced by coercion and the threat of heavenly wrath.

In many ways, I guess, it is Satanic. It is the *******isation of a purely-intended ritual act. Is it any difference than the supposed Black Sacrament? The perversion of an ancient rite.

(Yes, veneration is from the same root)

[Eelco]

On the plays with words.

Many years ago I was hitchhiking and got a ride from a major in the salvation army.
When talking about god he said he was reading an old armenina bible.
He said the word sin was not used.
Instead all through the text an armenian word was used that meant as much as "you wil have to try again"
Anyone know something about that?

It has intrigued me ever since, but not as much as to actively investigate until now.

With Love
Eelco

[Calz]

Oh man!!!

Now what???

Another 20 pages to catch up with on my "family time weekend"???

No sleep allowed even when I have the chance???


Energizer bunny I am not ... please help yourselves to a "thank you" each for all your posts ... no doubt they are worth it.

[Curt]

Seikou-Kishi, mucho respecto. Mod wasn't kidding when he said you were a wizard with words. Good, sweet christmas, there are some exceptional people all in one place here.

[Calz]

SK has a dictionary out there somewhere ... but don't hold me to that!!!

[Seikou-Kishi]

Thank you, Curtis; that's very kind of you.

[Calabash]

no wonder they took refuge in celibatism.
eelco

That's because Mary M got the hump about being left with washing the dishes at the last supper . . .

[Calz]

Something has changed ...

Something magical ...

Not sure where better to post this but ... how is it that so many members of such value have suddenly come to join us here???


Yes ... Purple has some magic going on ... but there simply has to be more here.


Okay ... White is cute behind a fig leaf ...


Something ... beyond what I can offer words to.


Regardless ... I offer my gratitude and have great honor for those that have lately raised the vibration ... more than a bit???


Something special is happening here and I hope everyone can recognize that fact.

[Calabash]

I want to bump this post. I have been a huge fan of Michael's for some time. I am so glad he has shifted his focus from the past (which I believe we needed to understand) to the future.

I have worked hard to help that shift, but I find so many to be stuck in the drama of where we are that they can't seem to make that move. Michael's words were of great encouragement to me. . . . if you haven't already, PLEASE give the last 45 minutes a listen - and then let the information marinate and internalize it before you move on to the next thing. Thanks for this gem, modwiz.

I listened to all of it and my thought at the end was that I wouldn't be at all surprised if he were a member here or PA. It's (nearly) everything that we talk about here in connected condensed way.

Note to Calz above: Yes, agreed. I think we are (more than bonding) - MELDING - tighter than two coats of paint. Great innit? lol

[Fred Steeves]

true words Modwiz,
and that is what i stated when i first came here.
escape the loop.
time to move on.we can keep digging up the past but we will never have the answers.
or we can make do with what we have and try to create a better future for ourselves and future generations.
how we do that i do not know.
but we have to start somewhere.

I agree that we certainly seem to be stuck in some sort of an endless "loop" ronin, but I also don't see said loop as something that needs to be escaped from, fought, or anything of an adversarial nature towards it. Just as there is very deep wisdom that also resides in the "dark" side, provided one has balanced themselves to the point of being able to properly integrate it, the loop can be "seen" in much the same manner.

Understand yourself and you understand the dark side.
Understand yourself and you understand the loop.

The loop, same as the dark side, cannot be fought or escaped, it can only be understood for what it truly is and represents. It's true essence. Once something is thoroughly understood (the way I see things anyway), the push and pull of associated entanglements dissolves. Once I (finally LOL) come to a complete understanding of both the loop and the dark side, I will offer a very deep bow of respect and appreciation for the experience, then turn out the light in that room, and quietly shut the door.


Cheers,


Fred

[Sooz]

Just when all you buggers get on here, it's time for me to go to bed here in Oz. Dratzo!

I'm here all day twiddling my thumbs with thin pickings and boom, everyone wakes up. Oh well, that's my lot in life.

I agree Calz, something has sure changed here. The vibe has lifted somewhat. I think we all know who that is, who has caused some wonderful people to be drawn here.

Not naming any names of course. That would be remiss of me.

Honey rather than vinegar comes to mind. And agape (the Love variety).

Great to see.

[Calz]

The loop, same as the dark side, cannot be fought or escaped, it can only be understood for what it truly is and represents.

Fair enough.

So are we to simply accept the dark side and the loop ... forever???

"Understand it???"


I don't think that is your intent and there must be a "punch line" in there somewhere???