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    how many people are with out employment?
    how many people are in employment but are not happy?

    the notion of the basic wage imo is to help people do what they want.
    be creative.
    explore their potential and find something that they really enjoy.

    when your forced into the machine you know your soul starts to scratch and then will start screaming.

    but if you are given that option to develop your creativeness ,surely you soul will be content?

    like we saw in the animal communication video,we have lost our true potential of what we really are.

    creative beings.

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    Quote Originally posted by ronin View Post
    how many people are with out employment?
    how many people are in employment but are not happy?

    the notion of the basic wage imo is to help people do what they want.
    be creative.
    explore their potential and find something that they really enjoy.

    when your forced into the machine you know your soul starts to scratch and then will start screaming.

    but if you are given that option to develop your creativeness ,surely you soul will be content?

    like we saw in the animal communication video,we have lost our true potential of what we really are.

    creative beings.
    We are all given the opportunity to develop our creativeness. All the time! Thinking a handout from gov't will open up creativity is not an idea I resonate with. I think it operates as an excuse for why people are not seizing the initiative always available. My biggest challenge is dealing with excuses, whether my own or others and the extreme lengths the ego or habituated subconscious self will go to cover for lack of personal initiative.

    Our biggest collective job is to WakeTF up and then do something with the new data that pours in.

    There is a system that needs tearing down and replacing and professional sports goes with it. Let some men try that one on for starters. The money these players make is only justified by the distraction they provide for the PTB. Sports for fun? Great idea. As a business? Oh please.
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    Quote Originally posted by ronin View Post


    but if you are given that option to develop your creativeness ,surely you soul will be content?
    (Sarcasm alert) Just what my infinite soul needs, a stipend/handout from gov't. Once we start looking to our selves and Source (the same at a certain juncture) for our needs and wants, the rest will start to fall into place.

    I appreciate you digging and looking at things, ronin.
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    Quote Originally posted by modwiz View Post
    (Sarcasm alert) Just what my infinite soul needs, a stipend/handout from gov't. Once we start looking to our selves and Source (the same at a certain juncture) for our needs and wants, the rest will start to fall into place.

    I appreciate you digging and looking at things, ronin.
    I agree with the fact that expecting the gov't to give one a handout is not the way . . .on the other hand, WE gave to the gov't for that purpose (through taxation).

    Unemployment is just the gov't giving back to us what they have been taking out of our paychecks since day one for this very purpose. Same with social security and Medicare. While it might not be the best system, the fact is, it's the one we're in, so: It's really our money coming back at us. I don't believe one should consider it a handout. We worked for that money. I paid into unemployment (not by choice, because like everyone else, it's mandated and automatically deducted) for 40 years. And in that time, I collected once for 6 months. If you add up what I paid in, and what I got out, I think you can guess who came out ahead - and it wasn't me.

    I'm guessing Modwiz at this point in your life, you only have you to be responsible for. . . But think of the young men/women with 2 or 3 young children that they have to keep feed and clothed. The ones I know that have lost jobs are looking to themselves for other options, but in the meantime, the unemployment checks they are getting are keeping them out of shelters. And, as I pointed out above, that is money they and their employers paid into unemployment for this very purpose.

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    Quote Originally posted by BabaRa View Post
    I agree with the fact that expecting the gov't to give one a handout is not the way . . .on the other hand, WE gave to the gov't for that purpose (through taxation).

    Unemployment is just the gov't giving back to us what they have been taking out of our paychecks since day one for this very purpose. Same with social security and Medicare. While it might not be the best system, the fact is, it's the one we're in, so: It's really our money coming back at us. I don't believe one should consider it a handout. We worked for that money. I paid into unemployment (not by choice, because like everyone else, it's mandated and automatically deducted) for 40 years. And in that time, I collected once for 6 months. If you add up what I paid in, and what I got out, I think you can guess who came out ahead - and it wasn't me.

    I'm guessing Modwiz at this point in your life, you only have you to be responsible for. . . But think of the young men/women with 2 or 3 young children that they have to keep feed and clothed. The ones I know that have lost jobs are looking to themselves for other options, but in the meantime, the unemployment checks they are getting are keeping them out of shelters. And, as I pointed out above, that is money they and their employers paid into unemployment for this very purpose.
    I am aware of all this and your third paragraph is a sticking point, for sure. They have made choices so they are reaping what they have sowed with regards to responsibilities. It is the reality they have created. The financial hard times is just increasing the focus of their life choices. This is said from an observer status. Albeit, an observer standing at the periphery of the same storm they find themselves in. I do have some skin in the game.

    If I had remained married the situation would force my hand to collect. I had enough of situational compromises and left my marriage. Just to be able to lead the life I know is right for me. I am aware I make hard choices other would not. This is at the heart of creating your own reality. Real life choices, not lighting candles, are where ideas become reality.

    I am not preaching or even suggesting. I am cataloging the gulf that exists between some of us. The ability to share language is not to be confused with sharing the same reality. Only experience of being in the world and not of it can give the "proof" that this is possible.

    Watching people do the things they do and then have to see them suffer is not pleasant. Ignorance is not always bliss.
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