Disturbing Child Abuse

[ronin]

i am sorry Malc that these threads have brought up personal experiences.
people do move on with their life.
you have shown that with what you have achieved in life and bringing people together.
i for one thank you for that.

[The One]

i am sorry Malc that these threads have brought up personal experiences.
people do move on with their life.
you have shown that with what you have achieved in life and bringing people together.
i for one thank you for that.

Cheers i may tell my story one day.

[Ria]

I am not i was just pointing out that we should not be demanding our members attention on this thread if they do not wish to participate

Thats it

As your self and a few others have brought this up
My self and Sooz, are not demanding anything, yet noted a lack of interest, which for us was shocking to witness. We also have as much right to express our concerns.
All being adults we fully understand we can not make any one do anything they do not wish to do. As yet we do not employ deviant toucher or an army, in fact the point is to avoid such things, "completely", now and for our future for all beings, this is the cruxes of the matter. If no one wants to stand up for human rights, it won't be long now, you will not have any.
Like it or not we can all see what where each other's attention lies me include.

[Elbie]

i will say this Ria,Breeze and Sooze.
where you are coming from is somewhat like emotional blackmail.
when i first reported this i was banned for three days from the forum because it is a difficult subject to broach.
for myself as i hear you now it is a most important subject that needed full attention of everyone and their support.
these crimes are not historical but in the now and still ongoing with the help of the interweb.

i have three sons all in their twenty,s who know what has gone on in our personal life.
but none of them have ever mentioned it.
my partner once mentioned a update and was replied with"oh mum for fooks sake".

what does that tell us as parents is that people deal with issues in their own way.
they cannot or will not accept the reality in their mind.
it is a subject that i feel we have been taught not to mention and hide in the back of our minds.
although it does happen.

we cannot put any blame on our children because they do not want to know or are scared to confront reality.
all we can do is accept them in their knowing and be there when they want to speak about it!
there is no forcing or pushing of awareness but it is there and everyone will deal with it their own way as and when they are able.

really well put.
the damage the psychos cause is resulting in self hate and eternal silence..
just so one (victim) can maintain a semblance of "normality" of life..

there is nothing normal about child's life following despicalbe abuse. these kids and later on adults are everyone's responsibility.

there is no issue more pressing than this one is.. no et or their high tech or their 'higher' evolutionarily level matters.. i am not interested. if we can't/won't protect our own species, who do we think is likely to be more interested?

there is no issue more pressing than this.


rage on this thread is in good order. personally, if i were in a position of parents of abused , molested children by the authorities entrusted to look after them, i'd wait for no police action or social services or any such.. i know, i'd probably get locked up, but in the meantime i'd slay a few dragons.

Ria :As your self and a few others have brought this up
My self and Sooz, are not demanding anything, yet noted a lack of interest, which for us was shocking to witness. We also have as much right to express our concerns.
All being adults we fully understand we can not make any one do anything they do not wish to do. As yet we do not employ deviant toucher or an army, in fact the point is to avoid such things, "completely", now and for our future for all beings, this is the cruxes of the matter. If no one wants to stand up for human rights, it won't be long now, you will not have any.
Like it or not we can all see what where each other's attention lies me include..

sometimes, threads do not get frequented because people read it elsewhere, or are finding it too depressing at the end of a hard day's work..just guessing.

also, you will notice if you go thru most visited threads, people find solace in reading, beleiving things most fantastical, think of all the messianic threads to do with white/red dragon families who are about to rescue humanity, or putin, who's going to forge another, fairer financial order..no.. not because putin is a bad person, but because he is emplyed by and works for russia..red and white dragons may not even exist..still people like to latch onto these stories and in cases discuss ad infinitum - anything, but face the reality we find ourselves in. anything except realistic prospects., it's too disturbing, too painful.

we must seize the moment of a promising trend taking place in the uk and not let this issue go away. it won't go away. if there are not enough prisons, we'll build new ones..there'd be many volunteers..

[sandy]

it's too disturbing, too painful........................... clipped this from your post Elbie

I think your words give rise to a sense of powerlessness one may feel when their own and or others victimization becomes a reality and in your face. Feeling powerless to affect change does eventually bring on what may be coined apathy and or detachment.

Whether the abuse is past or present.......there are those with buried memories as well, this horror touches many, many, many lives and because it is so vile and sick it has been a taboo subject forever it seems with the perpetrators being protected not only high up but within individual families around the world........................

Well it is time this ugliness surfaces too, along with the other levels of unabashed sex all over the net.............we can have the most violent crude porn on the net including kiddy porn but heavens lets not make the masses uncomfortable with this revelation becoming public............................

Stay strong, stay courageous, stay patient, stay the course...............keeping this out in the open guarantees comfort-ability will eventually arrive and when it does anger will fuel the numbers and the numbers will amass to affect change.

really well put.
the damage the psychos cause is resulting in self hate and eternal silence..
just so one (victim) can maintain a semblance of "normality" of life..

there is nothing normal about child's life following despicalbe abuse. these kids and later on adults are everyone's responsibility.

there is no issue more pressing than this one is.. no et or their high tech or their 'higher' evolutionarily level matters.. i am not interested. if we can't/won't protect our own species, who do we think is likely to be more interested?

there is no issue more pressing than this.


rage on this thread is in good order. personally, if i were in a position of parents of abused , molested children by the authorities entrusted to look after them, i'd wait for no police action or social services or any such.. i know, i'd probably get locked up, but in the meantime i'd slay a few dragons.











sometimes, threads do not get frequented because people read it elsewhere, or are finding it too depressing at the end of a hard day's work..just guessing.

also, you will notice if you go thru most visited threads, people find solace in reading, beleiving things most fantastical, think of all the messianic threads to do with white/red dragon families who are about to rescue humanity, or putin, who's going to forge another finacial order..no.. not because putin is a bad person, but because he works for russia..red and white dragons may not even exist..still people like to latch onto these stories and in cases discuss the ad infinitum - anything but face the reality we find our sevles in. anything except realistic prospects., it's too disturbing, too painful.

we must seize the moment of a promising trend taking place in the uk and not let this issue go away. it won't go away. if there are not enough prisons, we'll build new ones..there'd be many volunteers..

[Catsquotl]

I am not participating in this discussion mainly because i find it too painful.
If would do what Breeze has done I'd be a mess for weeks to the extent I would malfunction.
This is hardly disinterest. Knowing thyself goes a long way and I have to pace myself when confronting myself with stories like this.

Heck I encounter some of their effects almost daily at work. If I don't disassociate myself somewhat like I said. I would end up an angry,emotional, blabbering fool without any focus or sense of which parts I can affect and which I can't.

This would be the thread to share meaningful ways to reach out and help those children, The ones we talk about and the millions we don't know because their stories haven't been all over the alternative news.

So what do you do to help.
Raise awareness? Talk to people in a meaningful way without scaring them into cognitive dissonance? Find facts so no one will be wrongly accused of heinous crimes?

For now in this matter the best I can do is read what I can stomach and take looong breaks for rest and balance. Help those I have within my realm of influence. And support those who do what I can not with a few encouraging words here and there for support.

If I thought it would help I'd write parliament, but as you know we dutchies have had a pedo-political party.
One of the founders I met years ago at work where he was head of the nighshift-team on the children's ward for kids with epilepsy. He's in jail now. Back then when I met him on his rounds he told me he was a pedophile within 20 minutes after I met him.

So yes I am well aware of how deep the rabbit hole goes. Yes it does effect me and no I have no inclination to join the conversation.

With Love
Eelco

[Ria]

We demand that the alleged abusers with apparent distinguishing marks come forward to be examined by independent trusted doctors alongside trusted police and normal police too

Come forward to be examined, if you are not guilty you should have come forward STRAIGHT away to be examined , you havent, so we find that as this is weird that you havent, we assume you are guilty, so we DEMAND that you be examined by trusted doctors who could see any attempts to cover up those marks up, plus trusted police and any other police that wish to be present. We want photos taken to kept by the police and doctors for reference in court https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMJo67g2jeo
https://www.change.org/p/hampstead-a...mal-police-too
Petitioning HAMPSTEAD ALLEGED ABUSERS COME TO BE EXAMINED

COMMON LAW

16 Feb 2015 — If any of you know people who are very well versed in common law and could help us take those accused into a common law court please HELP , contact me on FB as ARAYA SOMA

[Calabash]

I had hoped that Theresa May would appoint Michael Mansfield QC to head up the Child Abuse Inquiry, but it was not to be. I read somewhere that he was asked but that he was "unavailable". Strange, given his recent interview on LBC Radio on 23rd January:

http://www.lbc.co.uk/listen-child-ab...-handle-103719

Speaking to James O'Brien after the death of Leon Brittan, Mr Mansfield said the government needed to "go back to the drawing board and start again and do the job properly and quickly."

The inquiry was set up as allegations emerged that Mr Brittan had been handed a dossier on abuse allegations during his time as Home Secretary.

Mr Mansfield told LBC that the government "realised they're in a hole, a very deep hole, that they're not going to climb out of very easily...the thing's become a complete mess."

"I've got a feeling, and everybody's got a feeling, that they really don't want this result before the election and they want to pass it on…because it's too hot to handle."

Asked by James if he would be prepared to chair the inquiry, Mr Mansfield confirmed he would.

Listen to the full interview above.

(Michael Mansfield QC (born 12 October 1941) is an English barrister.[1] A republican, vegetarian, socialist, and self-described "radical lawyer",[2] he has participated in prominent and controversial court cases and inquests involving accused IRA bombers, the Bloody Sunday incident, and the deaths of Jean Charles de Menezes and Diana, Princess of Wales [3] and the McLibel case.)

[lookbeyond]

We demand that the alleged abusers with apparent distinguishing marks come forward to be examined by independent trusted doctors alongside trusted police and normal police too

Come forward to be examined, if you are not guilty you should have come forward STRAIGHT away to be examined , you havent, so we find that as this is weird that you havent, we assume you are guilty, so we DEMAND that you be examined by trusted doctors who could see any attempts to cover up those marks up, plus trusted police and any other police that wish to be present. We want photos taken to kept by the police and doctors for reference in court https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMJo67g2jeo
https://www.change.org/p/hampstead-a...mal-police-too
Petitioning HAMPSTEAD ALLEGED ABUSERS COME TO BE EXAMINED

COMMON LAW

16 Feb 2015 — If any of you know people who are very well versed in common law and could help us take those accused into a common law court please HELP , contact me on FB as ARAYA SOMA

i wonder if LS is able to help with common law Ria?

[Ria]

i wonder if LS is able to help with common law Ria?

Tricky as he's not in the country, he might know someone prepared to help in this country?
Ideally it needs to be a group working together.

[Elbie]

Tricky as he's not in the country, he might know someone prepared to help in this country?
Ideally it needs to be a group working together.

i think there's something called camden law centre (to cover hampstead area), if it's still running. we have one group of community lawyers specialising in different areas of law in my borough here, not camden, but a bordering one, i am sure you'd know which one i am on about..anyway, it's a free service, excellent one with hurdles of funding problems, but it's still on as far as I know..some of these lawyers are giving their time free, in many cases they do half day in a week each and hold other paid positions in addition, something like that - community empowerment believers, some are still around.
i twice used this group by phone for an advice, both times they were spot on and helpful..it's a no frill service in that they don't give you time to waffle on, so it helps to have your questions precise and ready upon getting through to one of them..if you want PM me i will give you a lead..

they don't advertise in yellow pages, they suffer a lot of pressure as it is.

worth exploring

tidbit: hariette (horid) harmann, started her career volunteering form this centre as part of the group

[Ria]

"Ved Chaudhari
11 hrs ·
Under the Criminal Law Act 1967, it is a criminal offence to ignore a crime, to fail to report a crime or to do anything which obstructs the investigation into the crime - it is called perverting the course of justice - it includes threats to harass, intimidate, kidnap, falsely prosecute, falsely impute mental illness, falsely imprison or section under the Mental Health Act, whistleblowers or witnesses of the crimes.
The children, Alise, 9, & Gabriel, 8, are in danger since they are kidnapped by the rapists and murderers in public offices who have murdered babies and raped children on a daily basis....
PLEASE MAKE VIRAL
Supporters of the D****** Children Alisa & Gabriel
c/o Belinda McKenzie
b.mckenzie@btinternet.com
London N6
Monday 16 February 2015
Members of Parliament, Lords, Baronesses, Leaders
C/o Lynne Featherstone MP featherstonel@parliament.uk
C/o Glenda Jackson MP jacksong@parliament.uk
Houses of Parliament
London W1A 1AA
Dear MP
OPEN LETTER
Satanic Ritual Abuse & crimes against children in Hampstead in non-investigation by police & other agencies
As you may be aware, your constituents having already brought this to your attention, there have been reports that paedophile satanic ritual abuse including the killing and cannibalism of babies has been taking place on a regular basis in a Hampstead primary school and the associated church, with members of several other local schools, police, social workers and agencies tasked with safeguarding children allegedly involved in abusing children.
This has come to light due to two children previously at the school having spoken to their mother of their experiences, who happen to be the children of the leader of the cult involved in these activities based on the main school and the church. They allege that a selection of children at the school are being regularly sexually abused and/or forced to participate in grotesque satanic rituals. On one particular day, Wednesday, “they do lots of sex to us” with people coming from other schools, etc, to participate.
When the local authority in which the children are residing, London Borough of Barnet found out about this situation in September 2014 their response was to take the two whistle-blower children into care and initiate family court proceedings, to discredit, it would seem, the children’s account of their experiences.
The case started in Barnet County Court but has been elevated to the Family Division of the High Court where there have already been three preparatory hearings. This week, a fact-finding hearing of the case will open under The Hon. Mrs Justice Pauffley. In the meantime several videos of the children taken last summer detailing their experiences in a very graphic and articulate way have leaked onto the internet, arousing widespread and deep public concern.
It is felt by large numbers of people who have viewed these very convincing videos of the children talking, that this case should not be in the family division at all but should be subject of a criminal investigation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtncDnCRPYo
There is obviously an opportunity here for those in the society who do not condone or support in any shape or form the sexual abuse of very young children, still less their instruction in the murder and cannibalism of babies to take a very strong stance. With an election coming up, MPs standing or re-standing for election should make their personal views on this issue known and/or at least lend their support to a proper investigation of this particular case, in the wake of many other instances of child sexual abuse, some involving prominent members of society having come to light since the 2010 election. The public are clearly not going to allow this deeply shameful issue to be once again swept under the carpet so please make it very clear where you yourself stand.
Please register your revulsion in this situation and your demand that there should be a criminal investigation, not a family court cover-up by Judge Pauffley. Please allow your constituents, if any do contact you, to know your views clearly. Please sign the public petition and leave a comment for the public to know your views.
https://www.change.org/p/the-rt-hon-...eturn-w…
Supporters of Alisa & Gabriel
PS Due to the time-frame within which these allegations have already been made public it is likely that evidence of the cult’s activity at the school and church concerned will have been destroyed and the premises sanitized. However there is substantial other evidence that what the children have been saying is true."

[Ria]

"Interesting notice put up on Facebook account by Ved Chaudhari
FORMAL NOTICE: UNBLOCK THE ACCOUNT OF ARAYA SOMA WITHIN 3 DAYS AND REINSTATE HER ACTIVITY & PUBLICATIONS TO REMEDY ALLEGED CONCEALMENT OF OFFENCES REPORTED BY ALISA & GABRIEL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6eLduID4NI : It appears that Facebook is acting contrary to the Criminal Law Act 1967, it is a criminal offence to pervert the course of justice by concealing an arrestable offence: s.5 Criminal Law Act 1967 and Criminal Proceedings; Section 51(1): Intimidation of Witnesses/Jurors to pervert the course of justice - http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1967/58/section/5
Please confirm when the account for ARAYA SOMA has been reactivated - In case people are not aware, Facebook has disabled Araya Soma's posts regarding the satanic rituals of child rapes and murders in UK schools -"

[Ria]

Lambeth Child Abuse Whistle blower Brian Pead
Published on Nov 1, 2014Source: Igor Proskurov
In summer 2014, following conviction and sentencing, Brian Pead (now legally known as William Brian Freeman since changing his name by Statutory Declaration in April 2013) was held in 10 prisons in the space of 12 weeks and subjected to inhumane treatment. What offence/s is this decent, kindly man alleged to have committed, or rather, to whom has he given offence and why? Following the banning of his earlier book ‘From Hillsborough to Lambeth’ (Invenire Press 2012) by Lambeth Council, who also tried to obtain a permanent gagging order against him for the rest of his life, Brian’s new book ‘Framed’ (under name William Freeman, co-contributors Michael Bird and Geoffrey Bacon) may hold the answers.

Contact w.brianfreeman@hushmail.com

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BExSQlinLFM

[The One]

Lambeth Child Abuse Whistle blower Brian Pead
Published on Nov 1, 2014Source: Igor Proskurov
In summer 2014, following conviction and sentencing, Brian Pead (now legally known as William Brian Freeman since changing his name by Statutory Declaration in April 2013) was held in 10 prisons in the space of 12 weeks and subjected to inhumane treatment. What offence/s is this decent, kindly man alleged to have committed, or rather, to whom has he given offence and why? Following the banning of his earlier book ‘From Hillsborough to Lambeth’ (Invenire Press 2012) by Lambeth Council, who also tried to obtain a permanent gagging order against him for the rest of his life, Brian’s new book ‘Framed’ (under name William Freeman, co-contributors Michael Bird and Geoffrey Bacon) may hold the answers.

Contact w.brianfreeman@hushmail.com

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BExSQlinLFM

I would be very careful on what we believe here with this.I don't know what to believe with all the dis info that's going around.

This person was convicted of an offense http://ukpaedos-exposed.com/2012/03/...n-pead-sidcup/

Are we now going to say that all decent looking people who have been convicted of an offense are innocent.Just cause he worked for the council investigating these matter does not make him innocent.

He is also facing a charge of the alleged harassment of his son-in-law, , and his 16-year-old granddaughter,

Are we saying that all this is a cover up and he's totally innocent and that the establishment is out to get him because he says so.Imagine if they all did that.

Dont get me wrong he's a very intelligent man and obviously well educated on certain matters.

And just over a minute in he wants to advertise the book framed mmmmmmm not allowed .I wonder how much its retailing for.It amazes me how money can be made from this but hey that's my opinion but hey he probably needs to pay his legal bills some how


http://www.lambethchildabuse.org/pre...-january-2015/

Make ya own minds up