There is a very strange atmosphere on TOT at the moment.
Catsquotl,
I can't say that I've ever thought your posts lacked grounding, and you don't seem caught up in flights of fancy. Your sober insistence on assessing the truth and necessity of chakras shows how deliberative your thought processes are. I don't know about me, though, I think it's just the way I think. Usually when I am writing something I become very enthused and perhaps that spills over into the writing itself. I remember doing an IQ test when I was much younger. It was strange because where most people will line up thoughts and assess them all in turn, I looked at the questions and rather than looking at one part, then the next part, and so on, I almost stared "through" it to defocus my eyes and my mind so that I could take the whole question in at once and as soon as I did that, the answer came immediately. There wasn't arduous problem-solving, there was no working the answer out, I just looked at the question and knew the answer and it never failed me. I wonder if on some level I'm consciously able to access subconscious processing power. It certainly seems like a spiritual faculty because in the "Western Mystery Tradition", as it's known, the deliberate bypassing of the conscious mind is something people employ all sorts of tricks to try to achieve but it's always come easily to me. The best way I can describe it is it seems many people think in linear terms. I can see their minds working and it'll go something like "if this, then that, and if that, then also that other thing" and so on, as though they're working in a slow, plodding progression or sequence, but in my mind I can see patterns and relationships between ideas that often people don't consider connected. (That's not necessarily a metaphor, because I can usually see thoughts in my own mind (much larger than my head lol)... they're often clear pink, bright but soft lol).
It gave me a little trouble as a child because I would often give the end of my thought first if it was a subject that didn't interest me, leaving everybody else to guess what I was going on about because they couldn't see how I'd got there. Unlike others, I didn't have to wait to get to the end because the end of my thought came at the same time as the beginning of the thought. I can't really explain it, but you know how in telepathy the message and the response go together? "On the same wave" somebody once wrote. It is like that.
So when I try to write a post, I'm trying to get something that travels off in many directions into the linear procession that is the written word. One sentence follows another and a third follows that. We don't have an initial sentence branching off into three or four new sentences like a prose fractal. I have to find a starting point in a circle, find the pathway through the thought nodes and bring in the periphery according to relevance (i.e., number of interconnections in the resolution threshold)... that may make no sense. I notice the way a lot of people write is that as they progress through their post (or article or essay and so on), they refer back to principles, ideas and analogies already established in earlier parts, but very often I refer forwards to ideas and principles that I haven't established or even mentioned yet, so that as I read it back it all seems to hold together in a way which almost always surprises me lol. I could "draw" my thoughts, but I don't think three dimensions would be enough so two would be useless.
I remember when I was younger I was told by my chemistry teacher to tone down the complexity of my sentences because nobody would believe that a kid had written what I had written. My parents were furious. They were polymaths and they both had unique thought structures. The networks between ideas was very strong in my father, and he could weave together seemingly unrelated subjects and bring new insight that was lacking before. His was a very holistic kind of mind. I don't really know how to describe it, it's not necessarily the same as pure processing power, though he had that in abundance.
I haven't really answered any questions here, have I? Lol. It's something I tend not to dissect, I just leave it as it is. I think it's possible for people to access something like intelligence which isn't conscious intelligence, almost a kind of knowing without cogitation. Perhaps the left-brain thinking is focused and detailed while the left-brain thinking is holistic and overarching, and the combination of both working together is more effective than either in isolation. The conscious mind has a strong grip on some people (and a grip not strong enough on others lol) but it's possible to disengage it entirely and move it backwards to a place beyond left-or-right vs left-and-right brain thinking, and then a purer form of unthinking knowingness comes in. It is like seeing without looking. As I defocused my eyes so that I could take in the whole at once... it feels like the same thing with the mind. There is definitely a form of pure knowingness above and beyond what is considered thought or thinking. Breeze knows it very well; don't let her tell you she isn't intelligent (well, let her, just don't believe her lol).
I have gone through your posts 9 and10. While I am in agreement with the identification of the symptoms. The course is not addressed and that is the entraining program we are subjected to, you could almost say pre-birth which brings us back round to lack of respect for individual sovereignty.
S-K
There are three different but related concepts when it comes to exercising freedom. The first is the idea of possibility. Some things might seem impossible given the state of human knowledge, but then things like breaking the sound once seemed impossible. If people had decided that because it was "impossible" to break the sound barrier there was no point in trying, we'd still not have broken it.
Even when people say that we can or cannot do something from a purely practical point of view, as with the sound barrier, I think people should be less willing to accept such restrictions and more willing to admit that even if current worldview or physics calls something impossible, that is an assertion and not an absolute fact. There is a second, much more common category of possibility in which people say that one cannot do something which one clearly can do, and what they mean is that they do not want you to do something.
n my view, nobody has the ability to declare what I can and cannot do. When I was younger, somebody told me that nobody could live forever and I said "just because nobody has, do not assume nobody will".
And at the same time that we cannot hear those patterns of thought without having our own intelligence and independence infringed upon, we cannot really speak in that way without doing the same to others. We cannot say "you can't do that" in the place of "that might not be such a good idea, because..." without assuming that what we have to say imposes impossibility on others in exactly the same way that society does it to us. While these assumptions continue, I do not think humankind will be able to resolve its problems with authority and power because most expressions of them will pass unquestioned and uncriticised and therefore we will not realise them for the artificial impositions that they are by nature.
What I have high lighted in green I completely understand how you can think that way and it is expressing a bit of a no hope situation.my grandmother says that it is the job of elders to teach their charges "to conquer impossibility".
What I have high lighted in blue tells me otherwise that you can effect a positive out come and in particular your grandmothers motto is part of your foundation.
Could I have your permission to send the info in this thread, to some of my daughters contemporaries to see what they think, I hope they find the time to read it.
Last edited by Ria, 18th September 2013 at 03:33.
Cearna (19th September 2013)