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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    What he's addressing is interesting, but he's not correct in calling it time travel. What he's talking about is actually the cyclic nature of time — the word "time" here not as a dimension of the spacetime continuum, but in the meaning of zeitgeist, a recurring set of events.

    Georg Hegel said something along the lines of "Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it." And there's definitely some truth to that. It ties in with karma — if you ignore it, it'll come back around to haunt you forever, until you finally face it.
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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    Georg Hegel said something along the lines of "Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it." And there's definitely some truth to that. It ties in with karma — if you ignore it, it'll come back around to haunt you forever, until you finally face it.
    Or as Mark Twain once said that "History never repeats itself, but it does often rhyme." The point of history is that we study it and learn from it, so we won't repeat the mistakes of the past and God knows that there have been many. We all make mistakes in our personal lives too and hopefully learn from them, but if we don't and just keep doing the same thing again and again then we are not learning and progressing. Just as you said, that's how it is with karma and all life lessons too, they repeat endlessly until the lesson is learned. That's spiritual evolution for the soul. There are certain big collective lessons for humanity which have not been overcome which is quite obvious.
    "The more I see, the less I know for sure." ~ John Lennon

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    Of late have found frustration regards future travellll, unlikely in my mind is this but i can sense the future, also know sometimes, so maybe one cannot travel to the future but as we are creating the future in the or ones now, am i just smelling myself ? lol yeah yeah

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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    Of late have found frustration regards future travellll, unlikely in my mind is this but i can sense the future, also know sometimes, so maybe one cannot travel to the future but as we are creating the future in the or ones now, am i just smelling myself ? lol yeah yeah
    You are making two logical fallacies, Vern.


    • First of all, we are constantly traveling into the future, but each and every one of us is doing it at their own rate. The faster you move through space, the slower you move through time and vice versa — or at least, your personal time, because if you were to travel somewhere near the speed of light (if such were possible) then five minutes for you could equal a thousand years for someone else.

    • Your second logical fallacy is your idea that we create our future. We do not, or at least, not voluntarily. Both neurological research and Einsteins special theory of relativity prove that what you think is your decision, is in fact already determined before you even come to that decision. The neurons in your brain regarding a certain decision you are about to make are already firing before you are conscious of your own decision. Special relativity also proves that, given two observers in different inertial reference frames, they can see each other's future or past, depending on whether they are moving toward or away from each other. Furthermore, special relativity also proves that two observers in different inertial reference frames would perceive a sequence of events as happening in a different order if one of them were to travel faster than light.


    The bottom line is that the future is already written in stone, but because (1) your consciousness dwells in the moment, you do not know the future, and because (2) you are already making choices before you are aware of making them, you experience an inescapable responsibility over your choices and decisions.
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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    You are making two logical fallacies, Vern.


    • First of all, we are constantly traveling into the future, but each and every one of us is doing it at their own rate. The faster you move through space, the slower you move through time and vice versa — or at least, your personal time, because if you were to travel somewhere near the speed of light (if such were possible) then five minutes for you could equal a thousand years for someone else.

    • Your second logical fallacy is your idea that we create our future. We do not, or at least, not voluntarily. Both neurological research and Einsteins special theory of relativity prove that what you think is your decision, is in fact already determined before you even come to that decision. The neurons in your brain regarding a certain decision you are about to make are already firing before you are conscious of your own decision. Special relativity also proves that, given two observers in different inertial reference frames, they can see each other's future or past, depending on whether they are moving toward or away from each other. Furthermore, special relativity also proves that two observers in different inertial reference frames would perceive a sequence of events as happening in a different order if one of them were to travel faster than light.


    The bottom line is that the future is already written in stone, but because (1) your consciousness dwells in the moment, you do not know the future, and because (2) you are already making choices before you are aware of making them, you experience an inescapable responsibility over your choices and decisions.
    Hence my frustration Frank. The Moment-now etc is only really now being strongly explored, plants etc assisting hugely a facet

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