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    Quote Originally posted by Chuckie View Post
    Bear in mind that in the bare mind, Obama was a Muslim and obviously in favor of the Palestinians.
    Obama is a Protestant.
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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    Obama is a Protestant.
    , of course he is...
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    I need whatever drugs you are on, Chuckie

    Brandon <3 Bebe and Israel. So does Obama, who gave them several bil on his way out the door.

    The Zionist project is useful to the empire of capitalism. That fucker (Biden) will not dare challenge that, until he is forced to.

    It is sick the propaganda Americans…well, let’s be real…white people, will eat the fuck up
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    It is altogether sick what an unknown mind will banquit on.

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    Quote Originally posted by donk View Post
    I need whatever drugs you are on, Chuckie

    Brandon <3 Bebe and Israel. So does Obama, who gave them several bil on his way out the door.

    The Zionist project is useful to the empire of capitalism. That fucker (Biden) will not dare challenge that, until he is forced to.

    It is sick the propaganda Americans…well, let’s be real…white people, will eat the fuck up
    I don't know Donk, it is probably my old cynical brain but I see it as six of one or a half dozen of the other. What do you suggest Biden do? Do you really believe that he intrinsically finds more value in Jews than Palestinians? And if he does why does he?

    I guess Capitalism but what is the nature of that dynamic? Remember that Biden for starters is vilified, ridiculed, and parodied because he is trying to save the planet by pushing electricity...
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    Quote Originally posted by Chuckie View Post
    I don't know Donk, it is probably my old cynical brain but I see it as six of one or a half dozen of the other. What do you suggest Biden do? Do you really believe that he intrinsically finds more value in Jews than Palestinians? And if he does why does he?

    I guess Capitalism but what is the nature of that dynamic? Remember that Biden for starters is vilified, ridiculed, and parodied because he is trying to save the planet by pushing electricity...
    It doesn't have anything to do with capitalism in and of itself, and certainly not with saving the planet, nor with Jews versus Muslims. Israel is important to the US Empire because it's the Empire's military stronghold in the Middle East. That's all there is to it.

    Of course, one could also posit that there is somewhat of an Imperial preference for Jews over Muslims, given that many Americans and many American politicians are Jewish. But the military perspective is the one that determines the Empire's unconditional support for Israel.
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    What Aragorn said.

    Plus, the white supremacy and religious aspects are useful in that AIPAC has effectively weaponized both while purchasing most of our major politicians, I mean like 30+ states have laws making it illegal to “boycott Israel” (I forget the acronym) or even criticize any aspect of Israel’s gov’t or policies.

    It’s smelling a lot like the early 2000’s, where I am the bad guy for having a problem with my tax dollars going to fund the slaughter of brown people in the name of “freedom” or “preserving our way of life” or “killing terrorists”. The bullshit with the hospital being Hamas base (so let’s bomb the “human shields” to get to them, sounds like a valid tactic) feels so much like “shock & awe-ing” Baghdad so we could pop Saddam’s head off (remember that?) that I’m having flashbacks
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    Quote Originally posted by Chuckie View Post
    I guess Capitalism but what is the nature of that dynamic? Remember that Biden for starters is vilified, ridiculed, and parodied because he is trying to save the planet by pushing electricity...
    I guess I don’t pay much attention to Biden, except when he’s bear-hugging war criminals and sending them MORE of our tax dollars for their brutally violent settler colonial project.

    Part of the dynamic has more to do with the NeoLib side of Biden, which is not what gets ridiculed. The excuses of allying with them (beyond the bases and the intelligence tech produced by their occupation) is to legitimize the Empire and our ways/history.

    Religion and white supremacy are capitalism’s most effective tools, and Israel’s occupation and settling of Palestine is the ultimate manifestation of all 3
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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    It doesn't have anything to do with capitalism in and of itself, and certainly not with saving the planet, nor with Jews versus Muslims. Israel is important to the US Empire because it's the Empire's military stronghold in the Middle East. That's all there is to it.

    Of course, one could also posit that there is somewhat of an Imperial preference for Jews over Muslims, given that many Americans and many American politicians are Jewish. But the military perspective is the one that determines the Empire's unconditional support for Israel.
    yes, likely you are correct...
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    r u toeing the line ?

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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    r u toeing the line ?
    If that is directed at me, I will say I struggle every day with toeing the line...all my instincts scream at me to just say 'f*ck it'. But...I lost the freedom to do that when my daughter was born.
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    So now the second in line the President behind thousand year old Brandon and the woman most right wingers seem to want to murder, Mike Johnson says that Jesus told him to just wait, your Moses moment will come:

    https://www.rawstory.com/amp/mike-jo...ibextid=Zxz2cZ

    Guess this belongs in free speech thread….see how much these fucking zealots love 1st amendment. Moses here thought it was great that no media was supposed to be at their Handmaid’s Tale coven. Tired of these desert cults fucked up fairy tales having so much pull in govt these days

    Then we get this horrid demon Elise Stefanie shrieking disingenuous bullshit to these fucking morons:


    https://youtu.be/7x026NuyIig?si=hXHD0KMorjWDs3HD

    How are these Ivy League fucks so terrible at their job. Just say yes, invoking genocide is problematic and would be dealt with, but “antifada” or being pro-Palestine or criticizing the Israel is not fucking it you disgusting waste of life.

    I can’t listen to this psycho a second time, I could only get like a second in, but I remember all these idiots responses being terrible, fodder for right wing dipshits talking points
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    Quote Originally posted by donk View Post
    So now the second in line the President behind thousand year old Brandon and the woman most right wingers seem to want to murder, Mike Johnson says that Jesus told him to just wait, your Moses moment will come:

    https://www.rawstory.com/amp/mike-jo...ibextid=Zxz2cZ

    Guess this belongs in free speech thread….see how much these fucking zealots love 1st amendment. Moses here thought it was great that no media was supposed to be at their Handmaid’s Tale coven. Tired of these desert cults fucked up fairy tales having so much pull in govt these days

    Then we get this horrid demon Elise Stefanie shrieking disingenuous bullshit to these fucking morons:


    https://youtu.be/7x026NuyIig?si=hXHD0KMorjWDs3HD

    How are these Ivy League fucks so terrible at their job. Just say yes, invoking genocide is problematic and would be dealt with, but “antifada” or being pro-Palestine or criticizing the Israel is not fucking it you disgusting waste of life.

    I can’t listen to this psycho a second time, I could only get like a second in, but I remember all these idiots responses being terrible, fodder for right wing dipshits talking points
    I saw part of the clip about McGill, she really thought she was being cute. She'll be out of a job
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    Again, these mofos doing it.


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