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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    Israel has just committed another war crime, captured on CCTV. I haven't seen any English-language reports on it yet so far, and the Begian public news media have also not reported it yet — they're too busy focusing on the farmers protests and associated highway blockades over here right now — but it was reported (with video footage) at the website of the Christian-democrat news outlet, and so I'll just give you guys the quick rundown. I cannot embed the video here because they're using a (quite popular) proprietary embedded player.

    A team of IDF commandos — men and women — have entered the Ibn Sina hospital on the west bank of the river Jordan while dressed as doctors, nurses and Palestinian patients, their assault rifles and submachine guns concealed, with the intent of summarily executing three Hamas members. They have succeeded in their mission.

    This is officially a war crime by any stretch of the imagination. And of course, the Israeli excuse is the same as it has so far always been, i.e. that the hospital was harboring a Hamas terrorist cell.

    The article — in Dutch, but with the video — can be found here.
    That goes hand in glove with what Caitlin Johnstone posted just yesterday. As usual, she cuts like a knife straight to the heart of any matter.

    (Of note: Her husband often narrates what she writes on Twitter - 5:50 long)
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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    Israel has just committed another war crime, captured on CCTV. I haven't seen any English-language reports on it yet so far, and the Begian public news media have also not reported it yet — they're too busy focusing on the farmers protests and associated highway blockades over here right now — but it was reported (with video footage) at the website of the Christian-democrat news outlet, and so I'll just give you guys the quick rundown. I cannot embed the video here because they're using a (quite popular) proprietary embedded player.

    A team of IDF commandos — men and women — have entered the Ibn Sina hospital on the west bank of the river Jordan while dressed as doctors, nurses and Palestinian patients, their assault rifles and submachine guns concealed, with the intent of summarily executing three Hamas members. They have succeeded in their mission.

    This is officially a war crime by any stretch of the imagination. And of course, the Israeli excuse is the same as it has so far always been, i.e. that the hospital was harboring a Hamas terrorist cell.

    The article — in Dutch, but with the video — can be found here.
    It appeared on CNN yesterday, Aragorn...this is a bit off-topic but you mentioned the farmer's protest. A point for the Catholic Church...The clergy before and during the Mexican Revolution uprisings (which were largely agrarian) actually supported, helped, and even died on behalf of the underclasses. Just a point I've never seen mentioned on an alternative site...
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    Chris Hedges, at his very finest. Through his passion and vast experience he truly has a way of "taking you there", in a gut wrenching manner for this one. A heavy listen but well worth it. I learn something just about every time I listen to this great man, my utmost respect to one of the giants of our time.

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    Quote Originally posted by Fred Steeves View Post
    A heavy listen but well worth it.
    Well, I listened the whole thing. I don't think I'ever seen and heard Chris being so visibly choked up by his emotions in the beginning.
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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    Well, I listened the whole thing. I don't think I'ever seen and heard Chris being so visibly choked up by his emotions in the beginning.
    I understand the passion, but I think it is misplaced to use that kind of language as a warmup, I had to stop watching it, but it is most likely simply because Fred was the one who posted it. It's a twisting of what is holy.
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    Israel has now bombed and completely obliterated the office building of Enabel in Gaza. Enabel is the Belgian organization for developmental collaboration. The building also housed other humanitarian organizations, such as Handicap International. Luckily, no one was in the building when it was bombed — it was after office hours yesterday evening — and as such there are no casualties. An adjacent building was also badly damaged in the bombing.

    The Belgian government has summoned the Israeli ambassador in order to demand an explanation, but so far none has been made available yet — or at least, not publicly — at my time of writing this. What's very suspicious however is the timing of this attack, given that Belgium, unlike many other countries, has just recently — i.e. last Wednesday — refused to withdraw its support for UNRWA, which was recently accused by Israel of being linked to Hamas.

    I think it is time for the whole world to start ostracizing both Israel and the United States of America. It may not be legally possible to do so — I am not a lawyer — but it should be practically feasible nevertheless. And yes, this would most likely yield some economic difficulties, but it should be made clear to the Empire that it now stands alone, by throwing the Empire out of NATO and off of the UN Security Council. This would drastically impact the Empire's military supremacy in the world, because without NATO as its bully mob, the schoolyard bully of the world would suddenly be very, very small. And with the Empire cut off, Israel will be cut off as well.

    Europe and BRICS could then form a new alliance, based upon UN principles and mutual cooperation. And that could of course become very tricky and very dangerous, even if only because of the players involved, and most notably Russia and China. But both of those nations have in the past shown many signs of goodwill on account of international cooperation, and it was only through their vilification by the Empire and its propaganda machine that the relationship between the western countries on the one hand and Russia and China on the other hand grew sour and distrustful.



    Maybe I'm being naive, but this story has an eerie parallel with that initial concept for a science-fiction novel that I jotted together as 100 A4-sized pages of notes back in 2010-2011, in which — in a "nearby" galaxy, and thousands of years ago in our time count — a peaceful and extremely benevolent but technologically also highly advanced civilization was completely wiped out by another, very aggressive species who themselves had first been driven off of their home world because of their aggression, their lust for conquest, and their genetic manipulation which made them even more aggressive and cruel, and visually very different from their counterparts on their original home world.

    Having been driven off of their home world, this aggressor species then migrated to a nearby planet within the same solar system — a planet inhabited by a primitive and pre-industrial civilization of human-child-sized herbivorous reptilians, whom they quickly conquered, enslaved, and even hunted and consumed as food. Many of the reptilians then hid away on supply ships from other species that were trading with the aggressors, and then, via various other avenues, ended up as refugees on the home world of the benevolent species, who were all too willing to grant them asylum and a dedicated area of land to live on. Cutting the story a bit short, this is what then eventually led to the decades-long war in which the benevolent species was then ultimately genocided by the aggressors.

    As my story goes, the whole Galactic Council knew perfectly well what this aggressive and imperialistic species had done, but they all chose to sit by and watch while doing nothing as the war raged on, followed by the use of a weapon by the aggressor species that was stolen from another advanced species by an interstellar crime syndicate and sold to the aggressors — which, incidentally, have a legitimate empire, with an Emperor. This weapon gradually destroyed the sun of the solar system containing the home planet of the benevolent species. As a result of the weapon, the sun started growing larger and larger, bombarding the benevolent species' home planet with dangerous levels of radiation, which killed many and rendered the survivors sterile, while at the same time also causing the oceans to evaporate and killing all plant and animal life on the planet. All of this took place in only a few years time.

    Ultimately, the dying and/or mutilated survivors create an artificial species, which looks physically identical to their own species — or at least, as they used to look before the devastating radiation — and which, through their spiritual essence and elevated consciousness levels, becomes imbued with life and a soul. After the death of the last survivor of the original benevolent species, this artificially created "offspring" then decides to leave their galaxy, because they have no home world of their own, and because the Galactic Council had betrayed their biological ancestors.

    Thousands of years later, the aggressor species embarks on another genocide against yet another peaceful species in the galaxy, but this time, the Galactic Council, overcome by guilt over their silent complicity in the first genocide, decides to step up and completely destroys the military and industrial infrastructure of the aggressors, forcing them in turn to abandon the planet they had conquered and where they were forced to migrate to after their actions had gotten them banned from their original home world, and then they too will eventually leave the galaxy, with the help of the advanced species from whom they had (via the crime syndicate) stolen the weapon that destroyed the sun of the first species, because the aggressors themselves do not have the technology to travel intergalactically.

    And as fate would then have it, they end up in the same galaxy as where the artificial offspring of the species they destroyed is currently living, i.e. the Milky Way. And in their narcissistic pride, when they find out about this, they then seek to exact "revenge" upon the artificial species, whom they hold responsible for the guilt-inspired raid by the different civilizations of the Galactic Council in their home galaxy that led to their exodus. But as they are then up against the technologically far superior artificial offspring of the original benevolent species they had genocided, as well as various other technologically advanced civilizations here in the Milky Way, they end up losing that battle in a heartbeat, and they are left without any technology anymore at all, in the equivalent of mankind's Stone Age, having to rebuild their whole society from the ground up all over again, with the full realization that they're no longer the top dog, neither back in their home galaxy, nor here in the Milky Way. A lesson hard-learned.



    Sadly enough, in my story concept, the species involved are all extremely long-lived in comparison to humans — and especially so the artificial beings — while the Palestinians don't have the luxury of being able to wait a couple of thousand years for justice to arrive. But yeah, the parallelism between my story concept and my envisioned potential for a resolution to this geopolitical situation here on Earth just suddenly struck me, which is why I wanted to share the story concept here. It's not even the whole story yet, because there's a second story arc woven in through all of that.
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    Aragorn:


    "Europe and BRICS could then form a new alliance, based upon UN principles and mutual cooperation. And that could of course become very tricky and very dangerous, even if only because of the players involved, and most notably Russia and China. But both of those nations have in the past shown many signs of goodwill on account of international cooperation, and it was only through their vilification by the Empire and its propaganda machine that the relationship between the western countries on the one hand and Russia and China on the other hand grew sour and distrustful"

    It's high time, and it may be the current crisis that provokes a massive change. I hope so. And, of course, Russia and China are a bit of an unknown. It's hard to separate out the propaganda from the reality about them.

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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    What's very suspicious however is the timing of this attack, given that Belgium, unlike many other countries, has just recently — i.e. last Wednesday — refused to withdraw its support for UNRWA, which was recently accused by Israel of being linked to Hamas.
    I agree, very suspicious indeed.


    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    I think it is time for the whole world to start ostracizing both Israel and the United States of America. It may not be legally possible to do so — I am not a lawyer — but it should be practically feasible nevertheless. And yes, this would most likely yield some economic difficulties, but it should be made clear to the Empire that it now stands alone, by throwing the Empire out of NATO and off of the UN Security Council. This would drastically impact the Empire's military supremacy in the world, because without NATO as its bully mob, the schoolyard bully of the world would suddenly be very, very small. And with the Empire cut off, Israel will be cut off as well.
    I think we're well on the way to that. Although Western European NATO countries are led by such chicken shit quislings, unless the people rise up enough to force their hand, I can see them going down with the ship. But at least they have one thing going for them, in the eyes of the world, they are at least not directly involved in this as they are with the annihilation of Ukraine.

    But yes, I think we're (the US and Israel) approaching the point of no return the longer this continues, where the stain does irreparable harm possibly even the likes of Nazi Germany. I can also see our military in the Middle East winding up getting attacked so constantly, and from so many different directions, that it's forced to flee the region with whatever's left of it.

    And maybe that's what needs to happen, the only way to stop these out of control, psychopathic maniacs in charge of our foreign policy. But if that happens to the US, I can see the State of Israel literally cease to exist. That's it, game over, wiped off the map.

    There are some bright spots though, public opinion here is trending more and more against this, the mask is off for all to see. Of course many are still asleep at the wheel, and many of them would likely stay that way no matter what; but for instance Biden can't go anywhere on campaign stops without hearing people screaming at him "Genocide Joe!",

    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szcpsAhRkRU


    and Secretary of State Antony Blinken has protesters permanently encamped outside his lush residence.
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    Quote Originally posted by Octopus Garden View Post
    It's high time, and it may be the current crisis that provokes a massive change. I hope so. And, of course, Russia and China are a bit of an unknown. It's hard to separate out the propaganda from the reality about them.
    Well, in that case, it’s helpful to look at their history on related matters.
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    Ultimately, the only thing that is real and actionable in the whole mess is that the U.S. is guilty of not stopping it, they are in no way, shape, or form responsible for it.
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    Quote Originally posted by Chuckie View Post
    Ultimately, the only thing that is real and actionable in the whole mess is that the U.S. is guilty of not stopping it, they are in no way, shape, or form responsible for it.
    They are guilty, because they are actively supplying Israel with weapons and ammunition, including cluster bombs and phosphor bombs, which are forbidden by the Geneva Convention.

    The USA has never given a hoot about human rights and/or humanitarianism. They have only ever pretended to care, and only on those occasions where it was considered warranted for the Empire's public image. They are constantly invading and occupying sovereign nations and overthrowing democratically elected regimes. They are still detaining people without any chance of a fair trial, and they have already numerous times been found guilty of systemic torture and other human rights violations, including systemic police brutality and systemic racism.

    The United States of America, as a nation, is a hypocrite, a warmonger, a bully, and a closet fascist country with an elected despotic emperor, and in spite of all the despicable offenses of Vladimir Putin or Xi Jinping, the US Empire is the worst offender of them all, while at the same time hiding behind that superficial veil of "democracy, freedom and justice for all".

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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    They are guilty, because they are actively supplying Israel with weapons and ammunition, including cluster bombs and phosphor bombs, which are forbidden by the Geneva Convention.

    The USA has never given a hoot about human rights and/or humanitarianism. They have only ever pretended to care, and only on those occasions where it was considered warranted for the Empire's public image. They are constantly invading and occupying sovereign nations and overthrowing democratically elected regimes. They are still detaining people without any chance of a fair trial, and they have already numerous times been found guilty of systemic torture and other human rights violations, including systemic police brutality and systemic racism.

    The United States of America, as a nation, is a hypocrite, a warmonger, a bully, and a closet fascist country with an elected despotic emperor, and in spite of all the despicable offenses of Vladimir Putin or X Jinping, the US Empire is the worst offender of them all, while at the same time hiding behind that superficial veil of "democracy, freedom and justice for all".

    A rapist with a smile on his face is still a rapist.


    Well, I guess I should move to Belgium then? ... Liberals don't play that, real ones...In fact, let's remove the polarizing labels and just say, people with a conscience, honor, and compassion don't play that. But everyone has to compromise something living in a world that was designed on the Hegelian Dialectic as a founding principle.

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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    The United States of America, as a nation, is a hypocrite, a warmonger, a bully, and a closet fascist country with an elected despotic emperor, and in spite of all the despicable offenses of Vladimir Putin or Xi Jinping, the US Empire is the worst offender of them all, while at the same time hiding behind that superficial veil of "democracy, freedom and justice for all".

    A rapist with a smile on his face is still a rapist.
    An interesting, and ongoing development, is that the longer this freak show drags out, the more this hypocrisy is being demonstrated center stage for all the world to see. I mean as you correctly point out its always been there, but always had that thin veneer of plausible deniability available for whoever needed it so as to stick their heads in the sand.

    But the ever increasing public pressure is in the process of creating huge cracks in that thin veneer, and there's no back up plan, Caesar is literally being disrobed in the town square.

    This is a relatively mild one, but case in point: the Biden/Harris campaigns are starting to freak out over very in your face protest at their rallies, there's nowhere to run nowhere to hide, so they're just starting to ban Muslim people who they think may be trouble.

    So this is liberal (not left!) hypocrisy at its finest. The Harris campaign here in Las Vegas trots out a gay man, a brown man and a black woman, to inform two hijab wearing Muslim women that they've been disinvited to the event. They don't even pretend to make up any excuses either, just, you're not coming in period.

    Now can you imagine, the nuclear type of blow up the hypocritical DNC and lap dog media would make this into, were it to happen at an "Orange Man Bad" rally? Holy crap it would blow up the headlines for a week!

    There's a part 2 to this video as well:
    https://twitter.com/npl_palestine/st...71248473186670
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    In case there's ever any question why the US so unwaveringly supports Israel...

    (33 seconds)
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    Quote Originally posted by Fred Steeves View Post
    An interesting, and ongoing development, is that the longer this freak show drags out, the more this hypocrisy is being demonstrated center stage for all the world to see. I mean as you correctly point out its always been there, but always had that thin veneer of plausible deniability available for whoever needed it so as to stick their heads in the sand.

    But the ever increasing public pressure is in the process of creating huge cracks in that thin veneer, and there's no back up plan, Caesar is literally being disrobed in the town square.

    This is a relatively mild one, but case in point: the Biden/Harris campaigns are starting to freak out over very in your face protest at their rallies, there's nowhere to run nowhere to hide, so they're just starting to ban Muslim people who they think may be trouble.

    So this is liberal (not left!) hypocrisy at its finest. The Harris campaign here in Las Vegas trots out a gay man, a brown man and a black woman, to inform two hijab wearing Muslim women that they've been disinvited to the event. They don't even pretend to make up any excuses either, just, you're not coming in period.

    Now can you imagine, the nuclear type of blow up the hypocritical DNC and lap dog media would make this into, were it to happen at an "Orange Man Bad" rally? Holy crap it would blow up the headlines for a week!

    There's a part 2 to this video as well:
    https://twitter.com/npl_palestine/st...71248473186670
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    Quote Originally posted by Fred Steeves View Post
    In case there's ever any question why the US so unwaveringly supports Israel...

    (33 seconds)
    Do circumstances have an impact on people's minds and do minds change ever? Yes, they do, every minute of every day. Witness the protestors against Israel. That was not happening a few months ago.
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