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    Quote Originally posted by Diabolical Boids View Post
    It occurs to me more and more these days ...mostly because everyone hates Trump and for a variety of probably valid reasons but just. can't. let. him. go.

    I see it with Putin too. When people cling that much to the 'abusers' it makes me know there's some sort of emotional bonding going on there. Unhealthy of course.

    Trump IS a Democrat. He's always been a Democrat, he's never been a conservative. He was Dem all the way up to about 2012 or so. He's the older sort of Democrat back before they all went into self destruct mode into extreme liberalism of today so they mostly do not exist anymore or rather they have been squelched. I include myself in those numbers. That sort of Democrat is seen as pro conservative. He simply had to run as a conservative because that is the closest you can get to a moderate liberal or Democrat these days, to be now that politics and social engineering killed the voice tradition Dem that was more like the JFK variety. That Democrats and liberals hate him that badly says more about how they see themselves and their politics than it does about him.

    The only one resembling a moderate Dem today is RFK. Trump is actually a bit more extremists and I think that's what today's Dems hate. That's getting mirrored back at them and they don't like it.
    I feel he got the tap on the shoulder well pre 2012 but he needed to change parties in a 2012 timeline, maybe something to do with 21 12 2012, or not. The new JFK is playing his role within Dems party massively well atm and come late 2023 there be a feel of woke gone or silent giving more breathing spaCE noosphericalllly for lol we always knew this, that, or FUUUUUck not change party but embrace JFK instead, his running mate is a huge jiggys sore piece.

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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    I feel he got the tap on the shoulder well pre 2012 but he needed to change parties in a 2012 timeline, maybe something to do with 21 12 2012, or not. The new JFK is playing his role within Dems party massively well atm and come late 2023 there be a feel of woke gone or silent giving more breathing spaCE noosphericalllly for lol we always knew this, that, or FUUUUUck not change party but embrace JFK instead, his running mate is a huge jiggys sore piece.
    Supernatural or the alteration of political demographics in the area. Timelines are really only psychological. Change your mind, change your time line. The parties changed, he didn't. The parties are still changing.

    The late 90's and early 2000s ushered in a greater divide between the right and left. The liberal party slid way left from the moderate status it enjoyed during the 60, 70s and 80s. Remember Tipper Gore when she was censoring music? Liberals will swear that never happened, that they were never that rigid or conservative. But half the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Twisted Sister will fall out to swear its true.

    Trump was always a moderate liberal. His personality then as now, was extreme, but the liberals loved him.

    Today, moderate liberalism is still moderate liberalism but appears conservative compared to the leftist extremism that has split off from the mainstream and then took over. Since the fringe took over moderate liberalism is made out to be extreme right wing conservatism. Really no place for Trump to go but there. His personality is extreme but his polices were quite moderate and by the book. Most of his shocking ideas were merely enforcement of preexisting laws and precepts everyone has forgotten about in the pursuit of social mayhem. They seemed rigid and overbearing compared to the loose permissiveness people have allowed themselves to get used to. That really has nothing to do with Trump, but was occurring before he even ran for office and was making nationwide news. That people don't know what they are seeing doesn't mean its not happening.

    One example I remember a sort of Trump like hysteria surrounding a woman who fired to ARREST THE FLIGHT OF KNOWN FELONS. The nation went batshit, people 500 miles away in NYC crying on line and in the news they were in fear of their lives even though they only heard about it from the comfort of their couches on the news. People were not calling for her arrest they were calling for the police to shoot her and bury her in the parking lot of where the event happened. They screamed she was guilty of attempted murder even the police said she fired to arrest the flight . NO mention of the felons or what they did. Not a word. The womans actions allowed the police to find them quickly but we never hears another word about the actual crime committed. They made the woman the crime. They literally could not know or tell the difference. I read the police report. What the woman did was an exhibit of extreme judgement and methodical yet quick thinking under pressure. At any rate there was nothing to charge her for because she acted under an old and ordinary law that allows for discharging a weapon to arrest the flight of suspected or known felons. Because they were ignorant and didn't know the difference. Anyway the media badgered the DA until he found some simple dumbass thing he could charge her for because the media wouldn't let up. So he charged her with some bullshit thing that she easily made defense of and she had to pay some petty fee for discharge of a weapon near a building. Like 50 bucks or something.

    My adventures with sort of leftist hysteria are legendary. People reporting me for 'letting my herd of deer run loose at night' and 'threatening them with an ax and badgering the police constantly to do something about my lawlessness. Reporting me because I made a noise that made their dog bark. It's break down of civilization. Trump is sociological hysteria and the bad guy in the midst of the breakdown which has been going on for a long time. And anyone in America who has experienced it knows what it is.

    Sound familiar? The Trump circus was happening before Trump came along.

    That's exactly the sort of hysteria rising around Trump.

    Our parties flux and flow. At any given time one party is somewhat (but not much) holding the higher moral ground. Or at some point one party of the other is more functional than the other. At this conjecture I'd say the conservative side is less bat shit than the extreme leftism and wokeism that has taken over the left. Both parties are known for their hypocrisy but right now the left is so OBVIOUS about it.

    The conservative party has softened from its rigidity with the influx of moderate liberals. My daughter (whom I am visiting) lives in a uber liberal state, and its southeastern most regions are even more liberal. They recently legalized marijuana. However in this super liberal area its really hard to find a dispensary. Because the liberals fought and won for legalized marijuana....they just don't' want it in their neighborhoods. Rather like immigration. They fight hard for open borders but they don't want 'those' people in their areas. Hilariously, you have to go to a more conservative area to find a dispensary.

    At any rate that's how the political (which is social/ psychological and not principle or law based) flux and flow happens here. The parties aren't stuck or stagnant. People get stuck in their thinking of the parties and fail to see the way they are shifting because they don't keep up with the " current political currents. "

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    That's one perspective...the one thing that is not transitory or ephemeral, are the people that identify with a given label. Some are serious about their allegiance, many others (I would estimate the range of psychopathic personalities in society at at least 10%) are just playing the part. Nature, nurturing, personality, genetics create the 'character' that plays the part. In the end, what you see is what you get. Take Wokemons for example, by my estimates 10% of them are playing a game with society and reaping whatever benefit or inflicting as much damage as they can.

    Someone could claim to be a member of the Boston Tea Party, but what do their actions 'truly' say?

    And most of those are the social outliers and the ones that get noticed because they are 'inconsistent'. One can accept what their perception tells them or actually probe for the root cause, termed motivation for the actions they pursue.

    We all know who the "Great Attention Grabber" of our time is and he/she/them/it/ has never changed one iota, that should be obvious as well.

    Here is a unifying principle that I have seen...I always believed that Hilary Clinton was a stereotypical conservative...the right vilifies her because she is a lefty...What is she really? Here's my analysis, she is a born and bred conservative that was forced to go left because the right refused to accept her. And it didn't start with her first declaration or election, it started in the cradle.

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    Quote Originally posted by Chuckie View Post
    That's one perspective...the one thing that is not transitory or ephemeral, are the people that identify with a given label. Some are serious about their allegiance, many others (I would estimate the range of psychopathic personalities in society at at least 10%) are just playing the part. Nature, nurturing, personality, genetics create the 'character' that plays the part. In the end, what you see is what you get. Take Wokemons for example, by my estimates 10% of them are playing a game with society and reaping whatever benefit or inflicting as much damage as they can.

    Someone could claim to be a member of the Boston Tea Party, but what do their actions 'truly' say?

    And most of those are the social outliers and the ones that get noticed because they are 'inconsistent'. One can accept what their perception tells them or actually probe for the root cause, termed motivation for the actions they pursue.

    We all know who the "Great Attention Grabber" of our time is and he/she/them/it/ has never changed one iota, that should be obvious as well.

    Here is a unifying principle that I have seen...I always believed that Hilary Clinton was a stereotypical conservative...the right vilifies her because she is a lefty...What is she really? Here's my analysis, she is a born and bred conservative that was forced to go left because the right refused to accept her. And it didn't start with her first declaration or election, it started in the cradle.
    We will do anything to keep people in a box where they are more easily judged?

    Clinton is a neo con like most of the hopelessly corrupt that claim themselves either left or right. Not news.

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    Quote Originally posted by Diabolical Boids View Post
    We will do anything to keep people in a box where they are more easily judged?

    Clinton is a neo con like most of the hopelessly corrupt that claim themselves either left or right. Not news.
    neo con/neo lib...same thing...

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    Quote Originally posted by Chuckie View Post
    neo con/neo lib...same thing...
    No but in spite of this intel we seem to think that one side is better than the other when there is actually no side at all.

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    , I don't like either one of the nonexistent sides.

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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainm...&ei=13#image=9

    This one was particularly funny.

    Starving Americans in England, and there really isn't a good public transit system in Britain after all.

    That we don't have any left or right rules for driving is funny. Oh sure if we decide to drive southbound in a northbound lane (because its a choice) then it just becomes a matter of playing chicken when we want to go anywhere.

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    Quote Originally posted by Diabolical Boids View Post
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainm...&ei=13#image=9

    This one was particularly funny.

    Starving Americans in England, and there really isn't a good public transit system in Britain after all.

    That we don't have any left or right rules for driving is funny. Oh sure if we decide to drive southbound in a northbound lane (because its a choice) then it just becomes a matter of playing chicken when we want to go anywhere.
    I do that sometimes, if it's convenient for me...

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    Quote Originally posted by Chuckie View Post
    I do that sometimes, if it's convenient for me...
    So you concur its not a national standard.

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    Quote Originally posted by Diabolical Boids View Post
    So you concur its not a national standard.
    lol, no it isn't, but I sincerely believe that it should be...

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    Quote Originally posted by Chuckie View Post
    lol, no it isn't, but I sincerely believe that it should be...
    I guess people will have to drive intoxicated more then.

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    That is not a good option. Houston traffic takes some seriously creative driving...you can trust me on that one. Particularly if one is in a hurry.

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    Quote Originally posted by Chuckie View Post
    That is not a good option. Houston traffic takes some seriously creative driving...you can trust me on that one. Particularly if one is in a hurry.
    Yah think?!

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    Quote Originally posted by Diabolical Boids View Post
    Yah think?!
    yeah, I be thinkin' that.

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