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    Quote Originally posted by Fred Steeves View Post
    Well, this is another example of how we are pitted against one another through the endless culture wars.

    It's ridiculous to blame boomers because they were able to afford a new house, car, and yearly vacation on a single income, as they just had the luck of being at the right place at the right time post WW2 as a good bit of the world competition lay in ruin.

    And it's ridiculous for the boomers to consider every kid today as being some woke punk, just as not every kid in the 60's was a hippie. There's nothing wrong with kids born at any time, and the kids today don't have a lot to look forward to as their grandparents and great grandparents had. They're facing a deck stacked more and more against them.

    These distant generations could learn a lot from each other, just as we all can from each other, but that would promote a more profound and cohesive society - that kind of thing is soundly discouraged at every turn.
    I know its stupid to blame a box of rice with a black man on it for racism but that's the dumbing down of society.

    I haven't seen much input from the Boomers aggravated by the Woke. Not specifics anyway just the usual ages old grumbling about the newer generations we heard from our parents.

    But then we aren't confused about what Boomers actually are.

    Could be because actual Boomers may not be as much of an online presence. I think the Woke tend to come from upper middle-class families with money to burn and their domain is online since this is the 'on screen generation' regardless. So no of course not every kids. Kids have a tendency to be punks anyway (I include myself in that, I was a holy terror) but not necessarily be woke.



    Unfortunately, the deck stacking against kids these days came from the generation after our Gen X. The parental units would be the early millennials 1980 and after. That's who raised them and caved into social engineering that said, put them in bubble wrap don't let them skin their knees and bleed and give them all a trophy. I don't relegate Woke exactly to just young people either so I'd conjecture behind every woke brat you will find a woke parent and possibly a woke grandparent. But I can't blame it all on social engineering either.

    If there's right place and a wrong time and series of happy incidents that led to the prosperity of the boomer generation then it stands to reason we hit a wrong place, wrong time and series of unhappy incidents like the screen and digital age plus video game absorption that hit millennials and todays woke crowd. Toss in our poor political choices, not having value backed currency, letting inflation run riot.... that's a helluva mess. That sort of technology that served to make one of the biggest generations gaps every in a way that automation and the airplane and television didn't. That indoor screen life and being tethered to a smart phone has created a huge generation gap.

    I was reminded of this when I went out walking the last couple of days. Because of the torrential rain I haven't gone to the state park to hike so stuck around my daughter's neighborhood. When I was growing up and a road terminated at woods or a field there would be a guard rail and then multiple foot trails taking off into the woods because that's' where we played at then. In the woods and fields. Or held bonfires, keggers or just to stay out of the eye of adults while we did our dirty work. Like miniature pioneers. Climb over guard rail and off we went (if we lived in the suburbs). The same when my daughter was growing up. Kids ran for the hills and fields to play even after the age of the 'screen' lifestyle.

    Today though I found several of those road terminations and not a trail in site. Kids don't go there anymore. Even if they are not woke they are collectively riddled with anxiety, confusion, lack of sense of self, and more depressed then any generation before because their lives are lived on line and under multiple influences and peer pressures we never got exposed to. And it shows. Deprived of outdoor play, rough play, rought sports, hard classes like debate, social interaction with other live time kids, deprived of challenges and other things that form a self, a personality and a character. How much stuff was removed from those kids that we got to enjoy as Gen X. That gave us a foundation they don't.

    It's almost like a kind of transhumanism and they are the first round of experiements.

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    Quote Originally posted by Diabolical Boids View Post
    I haven't seen much input from the Boomers aggravated by the Woke. Not specifics anyway just the usual ages old grumbling about the newer generations we heard from our parents.
    Put like that? No, not really, it's more subtle like a lot of other things. You know, like how the US managed to build a post WW 2 empire of this size and magnitude, and still so many people can't see it for what it really is. Like there's some sort of mental cloaking device surrounding it.

    And I'll also ad this caveat: It's unclear how much of it is blurred between the reality of the situation, and it just being encouraged through various media outlets. FOX NEWS commentary for instance, certainly leans towards "the kids today are lazy", similar to "close off that border and build that wall!", neither bothering to look under the hood to see the underlying problems causing the symptoms they love so to wag fingers at.

    So first off, I don't think a whole lot of boomers have burroughed down into the intricacies of why their generation was so successful, chalking it all up to hard work, and pulling yourself up by your bootstraps. "Why can't the kids today just do what we did, they're afraid of hard work?"

    And the kids these days are much more aware and sophisticated than the boomers AND our generation was, they see the deck stacked against them, but it gets twisted around to ideas such as these old farts sucked up all the wealth before they themselves, ever had the chance to access any of it. "They left nothing for us!"

    Too bad Wade Frazier drones on so endlessly with the old boring stories, because his basic drumbeat of scarcity being the genesis of so many troubles is square over the target.
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    Quote Originally posted by Fred Steeves View Post
    Put like that? No, not really, it's more subtle like a lot of other things. You know, like how the US managed to build a post WW 2 empire of this size and magnitude, and still so many people can't see it for what it really is. Like there's some sort of mental cloaking device surrounding it.
    That's because of that undying underlying paranoia that the propaganda machine keeps on feeding into everywhere in the West, i.e. we need an empire/military this strong, because "the Russians, the Chinese and the Eskimos are out to get us!".

    It's that perverted Hegelian dialectic, i.e. if you want the people to blindly support you, then you must create a (real or imaginary) boogeyman that represents the exact opposite of what you seek to attain. Organized religions do it to their followers — "The Devil's coming for your soul!". Parents do it to their children — well, my parents certainly did. Children and teenagers do it to other children and teenagers. And it works, which is why governments do it to their own people as well.

    And for the Pentagon, any excuse will do for playing with their latest toys. I've just read that they're now testing an A.I.-driven attack drone — what could possibly go wrong, right? But that's a whole other topic, of course.
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    Fred Steeves Put like that? No, not really, it's more subtle like a lot of other things. You know, like how the US managed to build a post WW 2 empire of this size and magnitude, and still so many people can't see it for what it really is. Like there's some sort of mental cloaking device surrounding it.
    Ah. Well put like that ...Lol.

    Yeah . I'd say that is something so large they can't see it. It's become so much part of the wallpaper of America it's the new normal. My parent's and grandparent's generation began spotting it because they had the life experience to make comparisons between pre WW2 and post. We didn't see it until it was pointed out to us but we were curious enough to 'see' it and explore it.

    It's unclear how much of it is blurred between the reality of the situation, and it just being encouraged through various media outlets. FOX NEWS commentary for instance, certainly leans towards "the kids today are lazy", similar to "close off that border and build that wall!", neither bothering to look under the hood to see the underlying problems causing the symptoms they love so to wag fingers at.
    They don't take the reality or details or backstory of a given situation , that's why we have to use our brains. My grandfather had to climb up and down the side of mountain to go to his one room schoolhouse. My mother had to walk four miles to school or hitch a ride with someone with a mule and sledge. I had to get on a school bus.
    Does that make me lazy?


    I wouldn't call them lazy exactly. More like self victimized and they can't stop hitting themselves in the face. A lot of their idealism is just an exhaustive expression of frustrated emotions. They exert a lot of energy in making bridges to nowhere like blaming Boomers and their droopy denim shorts,. They expend a lot on houses of cards. They have these huge ideas that come to failure and that must be frustrating. All that expenditure of emotion must be draining. Lazy? I think they are exhausted. It reminds of an entire generation stuck in flight, fright or freeze mode. They seem to have a concentration of the weaknesses and blindspots of previous generations.


    So first off, I don't think a whole lot of boomers have burroughed down into the intricacies of why their generation was so successful, chalking it all up to hard work, and pulling yourself up by your bootstraps.
    I don't think it was as boot strappy as all that. Certainly not boot strappy like people who followed Daniel Boone out into the wilderness. WW2 was highly lucrative and beneficial to the people who stayed behind, it provided a lot of well paying jobs for one. It contributed to bringing us out of a Depression. For whatever reason the people don't profit from war anymore, we don't shut down auto factories and start building munitions providing good paying jobs that otherwise would not exist. For one instance.


    Otherwise with our constant taste for war we'd all be rolling in filthy lucre.

    "Why can't the kids today just do what we did, they're afraid of hard work?"
    Technology has taken away a lot of hard work. Sort of the point of invention. To take away dreary labor. Take away dreary labor and you also take away that means of building character and confidence. Surely it can be replaced with some thing else.

    We aren't the industrialized nation we once were which means even less hard work but we are also putting in more hours than ever at go nowhere jobs. Industry killed agricultural as the primary occupation and now that industry and manufacturing is going the way of the dinosaur what is left? What's the next frontier?

    I know my mother thought that if you were not physically laboring at something at all hours of the day you must be lazy. She didn't consider that studying for an exam or writing an essay might be hard work because she was never did that. And then spent a great deal of time being angry and frustrated because she wasn't as literate and educated as others. That's the sort of frustration I see in this generation. Very dissociative.


    And the kids these days are much more aware and sophisticated than the boomers AND our generation was, they see the deck stacked against them,
    Then it stands to reason they'd come up with better solutions than the previous generations. Brainstorming instead of being distracted by a made up conflict and blaming the Boomer's can of Spam, building bridges to nowhere and cutting their genitals off. But the same forces are at work that kept us spinning our wheels....so what do we do?

    but it gets twisted around to ideas such as these old farts sucked up all the wealth before they themselves, ever had the chance to access any of it. "They left nothing for us!"

    They did have the wealth. Money had value then. Money doesn't have value now. Especially now. But they look at it an emotional social 'privilege' problem, not an economic, political banking or currency problem.
    Too bad Wade Frazier drones on so endlessly with the old boring stories, because his basic drumbeat of scarcity being the genesis of so many troubles is square over the target.



    Our scarcity issues are self-generated, scarcity is artificially created which is just another form of control. There're ways of getting around it individually but no universal panacea.

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    So sticking to the culture war aspect of this, here's a running theory I have.

    I just posted this Caitlyn Johnstone video on Facebook (where it will probably be shadow banned into obscurity), and it can fit here as well.

    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffjYW6udL3s


    In the vein of "it's now okay to talk bad about past wars, just not the present one", I find similarities elsewhere, an example: It's now perfectly fine to criticize the US government for their scumbaggery in breaking nearly every treaty made with the Indians they were in the process of genociding, but that was then, and this is now, "we don't do that any more".

    Like hell we don't, we're still up to our ears in lies, treaties and agreements included. Except that back then TPTB needed the manpower of it's people to create a mighty nation, so the propaganda was aimed mostly at "the others", others being nefarious outside forces. The Red Scare was still about nefarious outside forces, and so on and so on; but now that so many things that drive the wheels of operation are becoming automated, the need is almost gone now to appeal to the home front, to keep the population at least somewhat content. Many of the wheels can turn themselves now.

    But now that is turning into a defensive posture, with the people themselves being seen as a threat, and to keep them under control, they must remain divided at all cost.

    Always.

    The same sort of mind wars that used to make us hate "the others" as "krauts", "gooks" and "sand niggers", is now aimed directly at the home front. Thus the never ending culture wars. Now even your neighbor can be of "the others", on multiple fronts, and we have easy access to our favorite walled off information silos to hear only exactly what we want about them, and ourselves.

    Never will the population rally for something different, so long as they are so divided amongst themselves, and thus conquered without even realizing it.

    Chuckling, maybe we could at least get free Somas like in "Brave New World" to ease the burden and round some edges...
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    Quote Originally posted by Fred Steeves View Post
    Never will the population rally for something different, so long as they are so divided amongst themselves, and thus conquered without even realizing it.
    And... unite the people by giving them a common enemy. Because — and I really loathe bringing in the "R" and "D" words into this, lest it triggers someone's bipartisan obsessions again — when push comes to shove, the Democritters™ and the Repuglicans™ will always agree on that the Russians, the Chinese, the Smurfs and the Leprechauns are out to get good old God Bless America™.

    Left or right, America's the Greatest Nation on Earth™, the Bringer of Freedom and Democracy™, and the Herald of Free Enterprise™*, and there are "bad people who do bad things" (© Sleepy Joe) in order to destroy it.


    (* Which sank in the North Sea because a Jehovah's Witness had put his foot in the door. )
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    Quote Originally posted by Diabolical Boids View Post
    Ah. Well put like that ...Lol.

    Yeah . I'd say that is something so large they can't see it. It's become so much part of the wallpaper of America it's the new normal. My parent's and grandparent's generation began spotting it because they had the life experience to make comparisons between pre WW2 and post. We didn't see it until it was pointed out to us but we were curious enough to 'see' it and explore it.



    They don't take the reality or details or backstory of a given situation , that's why we have to use our brains. My grandfather had to climb up and down the side of mountain to go to his one room schoolhouse. My mother had to walk four miles to school or hitch a ride with someone with a mule and sledge. I had to get on a school bus.
    Does that make me lazy?


    I wouldn't call them lazy exactly. More like self victimized and they can't stop hitting themselves in the face. A lot of their idealism is just an exhaustive expression of frustrated emotions. They exert a lot of energy in making bridges to nowhere like blaming Boomers and their droopy denim shorts,. They expend a lot on houses of cards. They have these huge ideas that come to failure and that must be frustrating. All that expenditure of emotion must be draining. Lazy? I think they are exhausted. It reminds of an entire generation stuck in flight, fright or freeze mode. They seem to have a concentration of the weaknesses and blindspots of previous generations.




    I don't think it was as boot strappy as all that. Certainly not boot strappy like people who followed Daniel Boone out into the wilderness. WW2 was highly lucrative and beneficial to the people who stayed behind, it provided a lot of well paying jobs for one. It contributed to bringing us out of a Depression. For whatever reason the people don't profit from war anymore, we don't shut down auto factories and start building munitions providing good paying jobs that otherwise would not exist. For one instance.


    Otherwise with our constant taste for war we'd all be rolling in filthy lucre.



    Technology has taken away a lot of hard work. Sort of the point of invention. To take away dreary labor. Take away dreary labor and you also take away that means of building character and confidence. Surely it can be replaced with some thing else.

    We aren't the industrialized nation we once were which means even less hard work but we are also putting in more hours than ever at go nowhere jobs. Industry killed agricultural as the primary occupation and now that industry and manufacturing is going the way of the dinosaur what is left? What's the next frontier?

    I know my mother thought that if you were not physically laboring at something at all hours of the day you must be lazy. She didn't consider that studying for an exam or writing an essay might be hard work because she was never did that. And then spent a great deal of time being angry and frustrated because she wasn't as literate and educated as others. That's the sort of frustration I see in this generation. Very dissociative.




    Then it stands to reason they'd come up with better solutions than the previous generations. Brainstorming instead of being distracted by a made up conflict and blaming the Boomer's can of Spam, building bridges to nowhere and cutting their genitals off. But the same forces are at work that kept us spinning our wheels....so what do we do?




    They did have the wealth. Money had value then. Money doesn't have value now. Especially now. But they look at it an emotional social 'privilege' problem, not an economic, political banking or currency problem.




    Our scarcity issues are self-generated, scarcity is artificially created which is just another form of control. There're ways of getting around it individually but no universal panacea.
    What most Americans don't appreciate is that many immigrants that don't come from fluffy backgrounds are doing exactly that...stepping out into the same forest that Daniel Boone did. And it is why after a generation or two they are highly successful in their own fashion. I'm sure I've related this story before but my dad was a qualified large crane operator coming out of WWII. Let's just say the opportunity to pursue that 'career' was not offered to him, in fact, overtly denied. That's freedom and equal opportunity in these good ol' United States. That's where 'regular' Americans are smacking themselves in the face. They don't realize they are the source of their own problems. My dad was not deaf, dumb, or blind, but at every parade he stood at attention and saluted the flag. That was foolish and one of the major 'generational divides' that he and I faced towards each other.

    Many of us recognize and I obviously passed that awareness onto my daughter. She bought a car yesterday, and while no one else was around she echoed my sentiments of 'equality', capitalism, and morality.
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    Quote Originally posted by Fred Steeves View Post
    So sticking to the culture war aspect of this, here's a running theory I have.

    I just posted this Caitlyn Johnstone video on Facebook (where it will probably be shadow banned into obscurity), and it can fit here as well.

    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffjYW6udL3s


    In the vein of "it's now okay to talk bad about past wars, just not the present one", I find similarities elsewhere, an example: It's now perfectly fine to criticize the US government for their scumbaggery in breaking nearly every treaty made with the Indians they were in the process of genociding, but that was then, and this is now, "we don't do that any more".

    Like hell we don't, we're still up to our ears in lies, treaties and agreements included. Except that back then TPTB needed the manpower of it's people to create a mighty nation, so the propaganda was aimed mostly at "the others", others being nefarious outside forces. The Red Scare was still about nefarious outside forces, and so on and so on; but now that so many things that drive the wheels of operation are becoming automated, the need is almost gone now to appeal to the home front, to keep the population at least somewhat content. Many of the wheels can turn themselves now.

    But now that is turning into a defensive posture, with the people themselves being seen as a threat, and to keep them under control, they must remain divided at all cost.

    Always.

    The same sort of mind wars that used to make us hate "the others" as "krauts", "gooks" and "sand niggers", is now aimed directly at the home front. Thus the never ending culture wars. Now even your neighbor can be of "the others", on multiple fronts, and we have easy access to our favorite walled off information silos to hear only exactly what we want about them, and ourselves.

    Never will the population rally for something different, so long as they are so divided amongst themselves, and thus conquered without even realizing it.

    Chuckling, maybe we could at least get free Somas like in "Brave New World" to ease the burden and round some edges...
    Remember that ghastly four year term when no new war was started and how the nation fell apart at the seams?

    This current war is okay because it's the real good guys versus Ras-Putin the bad guy.

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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    And... unite the people by giving them a common enemy. Because — and I really loathe bringing in the "R" and "D" words into this, lest it triggers someone's bipartisan obsessions again — when push comes to shove, the Democritters™ and the Repuglicans™ will always agree on that the Russians, the Chinese, the Smurfs and the Leprechauns are out to get good old God Bless America™.

    Left or right, America's the Greatest Nation on Earth™, the Bringer of Freedom and Democracy™, and the Herald of Free Enterprise™*, and there are "bad people who do bad things" (© Sleepy Joe) in order to destroy it.


    (* Which sank in the North Sea because a Jehovah's Witness had put his foot in the door. )
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    Quote Originally posted by Diabolical Boids View Post
    Remember that ghastly four year term when no new war was started and how the nation fell apart at the seams?

    This current war is okay because it's the real good guys versus Ras-Putin the bad guy.
    This is really a question for your sparring partner there Chelley.

    But I remember the scent of civil war in the air toward the tail end of those four years, and it still lingers on like a forest fire that's smoldered into the topsoil. I also remember the resumption of arms shipments to Ukraine (and we see what that has further enabled), continuing the occupation of Northern Syria "to take the oil" and more, repeated coup attempts in Venezuela, the assassination of Qasem Soleimani, and for kicks we can top it off with going after Julian Assange.
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    Quote Originally posted by Diabolical Boids View Post
    Remember that ghastly four year term when no new war was started and how the nation fell apart at the seams?

    This current war is okay because it's the real good guys versus Ras-Putin the bad guy.
    No wars? But why?
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    Quote Originally posted by Chuckie View Post
    No wars? But why?
    A good question. He could have involved himself right away with Ukraine.

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    How you all have managed to create 2 pages of dialogue, with no one fighting or throwing things at eachother, with such controversial topics, is astounding... ������.. That itself should be captured for the sake of maintaining sanity, and an example of how people can discuss hot button topics with a rational mind, and equally balanced temperment.

    There are so many things one could launch off of in this thread... I will add to the conversation about immigrants. It's my opinion that those immigrating now are doing so, believing they can find a better life for themselves and their families, "If they could just get to that continent"... Outside of the obvious, corruption, greed, and fighting with suppression of the population, we have a scene playing out everywhere now, where culture shocks are happening...

    People are now NOT solving the problems in their old homelands, but rather, running from them, making no attempt as a whole to fix them, and taking that same attitude to wherever they end up... "It's not my responsibility, I will find someplace where others will "fix it".. As such they behave that way wherever they "Land"... If they are unwilling to put in the effort to fix their own circumstances, they certainly won't be willing to do so here either... Where as before it was those same immigrants who made America what it is today....

    We have had a mass migration of some individuals moving out of the city, up into our area. Why? Because they love the area, and the way we live. It is more relaxed, more focused, more friendly... And the reasons they love the area, are the first things they try to change, when they realize that to live like that, it requires EFFORT... Before you know it, we have little areas where there are now Social Warriors, "Fighting eachother" for things that we never had an issue with in our area.... In short, they're turning our area into exactly what they just ran from. I am convinced they do this as they find the area more mellow, and they feel they can now have a voice, and actually be heard, rather than just being one of many, ignored in a sea of complainers, who aren't heard.

    They're bringing issues we never had to our area by not seeing their own role as a useful idiot in changing exactly what it was they loved, that brought them here to begin with. They lied some things their old environment provided... Coffee shops on every corner... A place to rest your computer on a counter all day long as you sipped said coffee, and they then begin to "Pull Apart" everything else, believing their ideas are somehow something we never thought of... We have, but we dismissed those ideas as we didn't want that for our community...

    We now have flags on poles for the LGBT community, Black lives matter banners on businesses, and those "Social warriors" even criticized a black business owner for NOT participating, fully unaware that the owner was black ... It's ridiculous. It's a "Cause" and they want to seem important, and "Helpful". Sadly they will change the town into something that is nothing more than a mini version of the hell they just left, if people don't speak up... But those that could, are too busy actually working in said town, keeping the foundation of what they loved about the area alive.

    Can this change? Would it matter? Well, as note above, all areas and all generations face different things. But what we have happening now is insanity in my opinion. Social justice warriors, fully begging the governments to step in and regulate the population MORE because they want their way... Rather than working with their neighbors, they have bought fully into the government being the end all of opinions and reason. In short, they're begging for their own enslavement, while believing they are fighting a just cause.. And they cannot see it for what it is.


    It's a cabal members dream situation, where the masses beg for their intervention... All because many no longer care to do the work necessary to stop it from becoming the norm.

    These are just my opinions.. Please, do not say I am racist, or have an issue with the LGBT community. I am not, and have no issues... In fact I have a granddaughter going through her own doubts right now about whether she is gay... my point is more about how people behave about such topics, in a way which divides people who were otherwise united... and this is what I see happening in our community now... Sad really... More division than anything. Like Covid divided the masses.... It's a shame...
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    Quote Originally posted by Diabolical Boids View Post
    A good question. He could have involved himself right away with Ukraine.
    To oppose Putin...not very likely...I'm sure there was much love for the corruption in Ukraine.
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    Quote Originally posted by Silly Wabbit View Post
    How you all have managed to create 2 pages of dialogue, with no one fighting or throwing things at eachother, with such controversial topics, is astounding... ������.. That itself should be captured for the sake of maintaining sanity, and an example of how people can discuss hot button topics with a rational mind, and equally balanced temperment.

    There are so many things one could launch off of in this thread... I will add to the conversation about immigrants. It's my opinion that those immigrating now are doing so, believing they can find a better life for themselves and their families, "If they could just get to that continent"... Outside of the obvious, corruption, greed, and fighting with suppression of the population, we have a scene playing out everywhere now, where culture shocks are happening...

    People are now NOT solving the problems in their old homelands, but rather, running from them, making no attempt as a whole to fix them, and taking that same attitude to wherever they end up... "It's not my responsibility, I will find someplace where others will "fix it".. As such they behave that way wherever they "Land"... If they are unwilling to put in the effort to fix their own circumstances, they certainly won't be willing to do so here either... Where as before it was those same immigrants who made America what it is today....

    We have had a mass migration of some individuals moving out of the city, up into our area. Why? Because they love the area, and the way we live. It is more relaxed, more focused, more friendly... And the reasons they love the area, are the first things they try to change, when they realize that to live like that, it requires EFFORT... Before you know it, we have little areas where there are now Social Warriors, "Fighting eachother" for things that we never had an issue with in our area.... In short, they're turning our area into exactly what they just ran from. I am convinced they do this as they find the area more mellow, and they feel they can now have a voice, and actually be heard, rather than just being one of many, ignored in a sea of complainers, who aren't heard.

    They're bringing issues we never had to our area by not seeing their own role as a useful idiot in changing exactly what it was they loved, that brought them here to begin with. They lied some things their old environment provided... Coffee shops on every corner... A place to rest your computer on a counter all day long as you sipped said coffee, and they then begin to "Pull Apart" everything else, believing their ideas are somehow something we never thought of... We have, but we dismissed those ideas as we didn't want that for our community...

    We now have flags on poles for the LGBT community, Black lives matter banners on businesses, and those "Social warriors" even criticized a black business owner for NOT participating, fully unaware that the owner was black ... It's ridiculous. It's a "Cause" and they want to seem important, and "Helpful". Sadly they will change the town into something that is nothing more than a mini version of the hell they just left, if people don't speak up... But those that could, are too busy actually working in said town, keeping the foundation of what they loved about the area alive.

    Can this change? Would it matter? Well, as note above, all areas and all generations face different things. But what we have happening now is insanity in my opinion. Social justice warriors, fully begging the governments to step in and regulate the population MORE because they want their way... Rather than working with their neighbors, they have bought fully into the government being the end all of opinions and reason. In short, they're begging for their own enslavement, while believing they are fighting a just cause.. And they cannot see it for what it is.


    It's a cabal members dream situation, where the masses beg for their intervention... All because many no longer care to do the work necessary to stop it from becoming the norm.

    These are just my opinions.. Please, do not say I am racist, or have an issue with the LGBT community. I am not, and have no issues... In fact I have a granddaughter going through her own doubts right now about whether she is gay... my point is more about how people behave about such topics, in a way which divides people who were otherwise united... and this is what I see happening in our community now... Sad really... More division than anything. Like Covid divided the masses.... It's a shame...
    the immigrants that I know left a country that has been battling a civil war and revolution for well over a hundred years. Some people would rather live peacefully more than to die fighting.

    Have any opinions on the huge wave of Irish immigrants that left Ireland during their civil war. It was when Irish immigrants comprised more than 10% of the American demographic. Something that Pat Buchanan, Lou Dobbs, and O'Really have conspicuously forgotten.
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