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    Quote Originally posted by Octopus Garden View Post
    I noticed that one of her beefs was that he said he'd pretty much seal the borders to Mexico. In this interview he responds that yes, he would do that--but he would also open up legal immigration.
    Yes exactly! It's become a trackable phenomena, we can follow it in real time, that being it's much more about what isn't reported, than what is reported. If someone reports he's sealing the border, but leaves out that he's also going to open up legal immigration, that changes everything.

    Quote Originally posted by Octopus Garden View Post
    But she may have been listening to a speech he made in Texas, where he may have left out the last part. So she could be cherry picking, for sure. But it could also be that he is tailoring what he says to fit a particular audience.
    Yes again, it could be either one, or both. The guys doing that interview had certainly done their homework, and I absolutely love to see any public figure legitimately challenged based on their record like that. That's how its supposed to be.
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    Quote Originally posted by Chuckie View Post
    All media is subject to the same scrutiny, by us, the individual. Some 'characters', in fact, most characters fit some mold that we impose our beliefs on. I've never seen an outlier personality make a dent, we live in a society that is more contortionist than sane and sober and lives by rules that all people can tap into. What has been taken to the next level is not that most politicians are liars but now most politicians are insane as well. It can only go downhill from here for one side while the other side will be left slackjawed.
    We're living in shocking times. Consensus reality has always been a self reinforcing mirror and now it's cracked. People are struggling to construct an alternative from the shards. Not going smoothly at all. And yes, the politicians can no longer lead at all, because they are all doing the same thing...as you say.

    I recommend you watch the RFK video that Fweddie ( I do like saying it that way!) has posted. I was impressed, though I have to watch the second half. He strikes me as basically honest--possibly an exception to the rule. The interviewers do an excellent job.

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    Quote Originally posted by Fred Steeves View Post
    I don’t think Naomi Klein, especially writing for an establishment mouthpiece like The Guardian, is properly seated to define this guy. Does he have some baggage? Absolutely, for instance his stance on Israel/Palestinian issue, but she jumps the shark just a little too easily for my taste.

    I mean she actually speaks of him in the same breath as #18 and the Nazis FFS… just that right there is game over for me. Anyone is perfectly free to criticize his vax stances, but the man is by no means a Nazi concentration camp doctor. That pisses me off, and I’ll betchya I ain’t the only one - the times they are a changin.

    It’s an open secret the democrat party’s long knives are out for him, nobody challenges their empty suit puppets sitting in the big chair, but they’re gonna have to do better than this. Much better.

    The battle should be on the debate stage, in the marketplace of ideas, and if he’s this god awful bad that should be easy pickens for any would be critic or challenger; but the democrats don’t like debates, they like throwing rotten tomatoes from the cheap seats and that’s all they’ve got.

    As an aside, it’s going to be interesting to see how they go after Cornel West, will they use the traditional slash and burn tactics on a highly intelligent and respected black man?

    Better be careful with that one as well…


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3qndXvBmr0
    Cornel West, embarrasses me every time I see him talk, and he just bugs the sh*t out of me. Very smart guy, yes but his hipster approach suggests a 'different' mindset not conducive to leading a country. He rightfully fits into the mold of the academic. I'm from Kansas where academic candidates are considered extraterrestrials... That's about it for me.
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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    Gotta say it, can anybody see this movie in play at all ?, Dia Bee, your a wise owl n good at seeing patterns ?. Know i am a broken record but we are watching a script, JNR was shoulder tapped to wake people up, especialllly from the other side as such, just like biden before him and Trump before him. 11.3 n or 1.13
    An illusion world operates off patterns and scripts and they don't change. I've watched patterns for a long time and before they happen. I jotted down the woke epidemic, people destroying themselves over some fucked up sense of morality, the vaccine debacle, Fukishima and the Gulf Oil disaster well before they happened, in the early 2000's. All journaled, filed and time/ date stamped. I'm a lil confident I know what I am seeing (and doing). Yes, in advance i will acknowledge that makes me seem full of myself but that's just another pattern of observable unhealedness that confuse confidence for arrogance.

    I was browsing through one of those journals the other day and noticed there was a reference to a US civil war that was to occur in 2016 and virtually no one but a handful of people would notice it because of the placement of it's occurrence.

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    Quote Originally posted by Octopus Garden View Post
    We're living in shocking times. Consensus reality has always been a self reinforcing mirror and now it's cracked. People are struggling to construct an alternative from the shards. Not going smoothly at all. And yes, the politicians can no longer lead at all, because they are all doing the same thing...as you say.

    I recommend you watch the RFK video that Fweddie ( I do like saying it that way!) has posted. I was impressed, though I have to watch the second half. He strikes me as basically honest--possibly an exception to the rule. The interviewers do an excellent job.
    Hi OG,

    I believe I did watch it, but I'll check. Kennedy may be a number of good things, but he's mentally handicapped which renders him unfit for duty. And no, I don't believe Biden is senile, old yes, but not suffering from mental deficits that inhibit his ability to make rational decisions. They both have a lot of history that corroborates my opinion.
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    Hey Chuckie, You could be more correct than I am, for all I know. I'm always open to being wrong or wrong-ish. I'll leave you and fellow travellers with this:

    "Perhaps we’re a confessional, mobile culture. But the country I’ve seen is not the one of online spats and stats. In a season of unending discourse about our divides, in our politics and communities, my Greyhound journeys have served as a tonic, a counterpoint rooted in our common places, one that is not naive about the cleaving forces, but sees a broader, connected human story. A story in which we are all just travelers on a bus"

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    Quote Originally posted by Octopus Garden View Post
    Hey Chuckie, You could be more correct than I am, for all I know. I'm always open to being wrong or wrong-ish. I'll leave you and fellow travellers with this:

    "Perhaps we’re a confessional, mobile culture. But the country I’ve seen is not the one of online spats and stats. In a season of unending discourse about our divides, in our politics and communities, my Greyhound journeys have served as a tonic, a counterpoint rooted in our common places, one that is not naive about the cleaving forces, but sees a broader, connected human story. A story in which we are all just travelers on a bus"

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    That's cool, a positive viewpoint...that's something that is mostly missing. I hope you don't think that I think you are wrong. Most of the time you are pretty close to what I see as the truth.
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    Quote Originally posted by Diabolical Boids View Post
    An illusion world operates off patterns and scripts and they don't change. I've watched patterns for a long time and before they happen. I jotted down the woke epidemic, people destroying themselves over some fucked up sense of morality, the vaccine debacle, Fukishima and the Gulf Oil disaster well before they happened, in the early 2000's. All journaled, filed and time/ date stamped. I'm a lil confident I know what I am seeing (and doing). Yes, in advance i will acknowledge that makes me seem full of myself but that's just another pattern of observable unhealedness that confuse confidence for arrogance.

    I was browsing through one of those journals the other day and noticed there was a reference to a US civil war that was to occur in 2016 and virtually no one but a handful of people would notice it because of the placement of it's occurrence.
    Appears you have been outa ya own movie , some time. Well you seen the 2016 civil war when ?. am interested indeed upon date.

    As the war for the mind started long long ago and the war to stop that this, started sorta after massive putrid abuses 1943 to 1953, 2016 was the footprint like 2012 21 12 was the soxs on, n cold feet 2001 twins.

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    Quote Originally posted by Chuckie View Post
    Hi OG,

    I believe I did watch it, but I'll check. Kennedy may be a number of good things, but he's mentally handicapped which renders him unfit for duty. And no, I don't believe Biden is senile, old yes, but not suffering from mental deficits that inhibit his ability to make rational decisions. (Like Afghanistan and talking to people who aren't there. ) They both have a lot of history that corroborates my opinion.
    I fell off the couch laughing. I hurt something although I'm not sure what it is yet.

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    Quote Originally posted by Diabolical Boids View Post
    I fell off the couch laughing. I hurt something although I'm not sure what it is yet.
    The funny bone, no doubt.
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    Quote Originally posted by Diabolical Boids View Post
    I fell off the couch laughing. I hurt something although I'm not sure what it is yet.
    The problem is Boids is that you have very little understanding of what is an objective reality and what is right-wing propaganda. Your biggest mistake it would seem is that you buy into patently false impressions and perceptions. It ain't my fault so you ain't laughing at me, maybe with the harsh truth of it, sometimes it is easier to laugh than break down the barrier of denial. So be it.
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    Quote Originally posted by Chuckie View Post
    The problem is Boids is that you have very little understanding of what is an objective reality and what is right-wing propaganda. Your biggest mistake it would seem is that you buy into patently false impressions and perceptions. It ain't my fault so you ain't laughing at me, maybe with the harsh truth of it, sometimes it is easier to laugh than break down the barrier of denial. So be it.
    This is funny too

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    Butty but n butt, some pearls need inspection, to bee bitten to be sure is real, others experienced and i feelsyies that Chuchstirrrr has tasted n hanging onto the funny n wishbone. Or not.

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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    Butty but n butt, some pearls need inspection, to bee bitten to be sure is real, others experienced and i feelsyies that Chuchstirrrr has tasted n hanging onto the funny n wishbone. Or not.
    Microdosing makes everything funny. It's the hallmark of that rigid right wing political mindset that I am so expressive of.

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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    Butty but n butt, some pearls need inspection, to bee bitten to be sure is real, others experienced and i feelsyies that Chuchstirrrr has tasted n hanging onto the funny n wishbone. Or not.
    maybe...
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