Wokeism

[Emil El Zapato]

Does anyone know how to change the name of a thread that I started?

trying to save space...

[Aragorn]

Does anyone know how to change the name of a thread that I started?

trying to save space...

You cannot do that anymore once the timeout for editing the first post has expired. However, if you tell us what thread and what name you want to change it into, then either Wind or I can do it.

[Emil El Zapato]

This is the name: Catch All Thread for All Those Icky Ideas

and this is the thread:


Transgenderism: The right is canceling lives from hate or is it fear-based legitimate concern

[Aragorn]

This is the name: Catch All Thread for All Those Icky Ideas

and this is the thread:


Transgenderism: The right is canceling lives from hate or is it fear-based legitimate concern

It is done.

[Catsquotl]

And then suddenly I realize why only through America I suddenly understand wokeism..

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/06/06/u...red/index.html

And the Human Rights Campaign just last month issued an updated travel notice for Florida, outlining potential impacts of six bills recently passed there, many already signed by GOP Gov. Ron DeSantis, a Republican contender for president who’s championed “don’t say gay” and pronoun bills.

Across US state legislatures, at least 417 anti-LGBTQ bills were introduced in roughly the first quarter of 2023 – a new record and twice the number of such bills introduced all of last year, according to American Civil Liberties Union data.

19 states have laws restricting gender-affirming care

The number of anti-LGBTQ+ bills signed into law so far this year is also more than double last year’s tally, which had been the highest on record, the Human Rights Campaign said. They include pronoun refusal laws, forced student outing laws, anti-drag bans and “don’t say LGBTQ+” laws.

[Aragorn]

And then suddenly I realize why only through America I suddenly understand wokeism..

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/06/06/u...red/index.html

And the Human Rights Campaign just last month issued an updated travel notice for Florida, outlining potential impacts of six bills recently passed there, many already signed by GOP Gov. Ron DeSantis, a Republican contender for president who’s championed “don’t say gay” and pronoun bills.

Across US state legislatures, at least 417 anti-LGBTQ bills were introduced in roughly the first quarter of 2023 – a new record and twice the number of such bills introduced all of last year, according to American Civil Liberties Union data.

19 states have laws restricting gender-affirming care

The number of anti-LGBTQ+ bills signed into law so far this year is also more than double last year’s tally, which had been the highest on record, the Human Rights Campaign said. They include pronoun refusal laws, forced student outing laws, anti-drag bans and “don’t say LGBTQ+” laws.

And that is one of the reasons — not the only reason, but one of them — why I am saying that the USA should not be considered a developed country. It has the wealth and technical prowess of a developed country, it has a disproportionately huge military-industrial complex unworthy of being called "civilized", and it has a retarded political apparatus that the population cherishes like the dearest religious conviction on Earth, and that many so-called developing nations would simply roll their eyes over.

And the irony is that Europe — itself also far from perfect, but at least socio-culturally far more advanced — looks unto America for guidance and leadership.

[Catsquotl]

And the irony is that Europe — itself also far from perfect, but at least socio-culturally far more advanced — looks unto America for guidance and leadership.

Very very sad....

[Diabolical Boids]

And that is one of the reasons — not the only reason, but one of them — why I am saying that the USA should not be considered a developed country. It has the wealth and technical prowess of a developed country, it has a disproportionately huge military-industrial complex unworthy of being called "civilized", and it has a retarded political apparatus that the population cherishes like the dearest religious conviction on Earth, and that many so-called developing nations would simply roll their eyes over.

And the irony is that Europe — itself also far from perfect, but at least socio-culturally far more advanced — looks unto America for guidance and leadership.

Some of these 'anti' laws are endorsed by the LGBTQ community who will ask you this question:

Are they anti LGBTQ laws or are they "You can't show five year old children pornography" laws ?

or

"Teachers cannot discuss their sex lives with Children" bills ?


or

"Graphic Sexual Content will not be in grade school libraries" bills,

or


"You cannot mutilate children until they reach the age of 18" law?

Because there is a lobby that flies the LGBTQ banner who wants laws like making it okay to expose yourself to children. Or give predators easier access to them.

And there is a LGBTQ lobby that is against it. And they support "Don't Say Gay" Laws.

https://www.gaysagainstgroomers.com/about

Don't say gay laws aren't about saying the word gay. They are, for example but not limited to, about people who work around children explicitly discussing their sex lives with children. Or legally showing minors pornography. Or grooming them towards transgenderism--all under the LGBTQ flag.


A lot of people are against that. Those who stand most to lose from the passage of 'anti gay' laws are the ones who are most invested in trafficking and preying on minors.

[Aianawa]

Thereis hope, calling themselves heroes, there names be sense n common.

[Diabolical Boids]

https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2022/1557

HB 1557. One of the most notorious Don't Say Gay laws.

The bill says nothing about gay people or the LGBTQ community. It's about parental rights and restricts schools from giving certain information to children and withholding information from parents.

CNN has a vested interest in deceiving people in the matter.

[Diabolical Boids]

Thereis hope, calling themselves heroes, there names be sense n common.

Yeah there's hope for protecting children and protecting families. The LGBTQ community was a timely ally, a huge lobby that is publicly speaking out that CNN and the opponents of laws protecting children are not part of that community. But it amazes me how easy child predators can get people on their side and start condemning those who are trying to preserve the rights of children.

[Octopus Garden]

And that is one of the reasons — not the only reason, but one of them — why I am saying that the USA should not be considered a developed country. It has the wealth and technical prowess of a developed country, it has a disproportionately huge military-industrial complex unworthy of being called "civilized", and it has a retarded political apparatus that the population cherishes like the dearest religious conviction on Earth, and that many so-called developing nations would simply roll their eyes over.

And the irony is that Europe — itself also far from perfect, but at least socio-culturally far more advanced — looks unto America for guidance and leadership.

Maybe Europe looks to America for guidance because it is pressured to. Not only do Americans have the largest military, they have also weaponized their dollar. Most international business is settled in the US dollar. If Europe falls out of favor with the U.S. they could be sanctioned, which would cut off their flow of dollars, making it impossible to transact. Europe also want the blanket threat protection that Nato provides.

Gender issues, though very important, suck all the energy out of the room. Class issues and climate issues are way more important at the moment.

[Catsquotl]

Maybe Europe looks to America for guidance because it is pressured to.

Gender issues, though very important, suck all the energy out of the room. Class issues and climate issues are way more important at the moment.

Yes to the pressure part.

And to the second part.
I guess that only applies if you are free from gender issues within your immediate circle.

[Catsquotl]

Some of these 'anti' laws are endorsed by the LGBTQ community
Are they anti LGBTQ laws or are they "You can't show five year old children pornography" laws ?
"Teachers cannot discuss their sex lives with Children" bills ?
"Graphic Sexual Content will not be in grade school libraries" bills,
"You cannot mutilate children until they reach the age of 18" law?

Because there is a lobby that flies the LGBTQ banner who wants laws like making it okay to expose yourself to children. Or give predators easier access to them.

And there is a LGBTQ lobby that is against it. And they support "Don't Say Gay" Laws.

Ok. Sure.

I think a more nuanced look would benefit here. There's a difference in reasonable discussion. or even reasonable laws. Or exclusive and painful agenda pushing through laws.
That said. Do you have information that people from the lgbtq community feel safe and welcome in their country? and this is yet another media circus?

I would really like to help set someones mind at ease about this. But find it increasingly difficult to rearrange the words spoken in a way that make him see the "sense" and protectional side of those laws.

[Aragorn]

Some of these 'anti' laws are endorsed by the LGBTQ community who will ask you this question:

Are they anti LGBTQ laws or are they "You can't show five year old children pornography" laws ?

or

"Teachers cannot discuss their sex lives with Children" bills ?


or

"Graphic Sexual Content will not be in grade school libraries" bills,

or


"You cannot mutilate children until they reach the age of 18" law?

Because there is a lobby that flies the LGBTQ banner who wants laws like making it okay to expose yourself to children. Or give predators easier access to them.

And there is a LGBTQ lobby that is against it. And they support "Don't Say Gay" Laws.

https://www.gaysagainstgroomers.com/about

Don't say gay laws aren't about saying the word gay. They are, for example but not limited to, about people who work around children explicitly discussing their sex lives with children. Or legally showing minors pornography. Or grooming them towards transgenderism--all under the LGBTQ flag.


A lot of people are against that. Those who stand most to lose from the passage of 'anti gay' laws are the ones who are most invested in trafficking and preying on minors.

A lot of good points there, and yes, I agree with you on account of the issues you address here-above. As the matter of fact, those are some of the very aspects of Wokeism™ that I personally detest the most.

I think what the whole so-called Social Justice™ debate is showing the most is that both sides of that equation have already gone way off the rails a long time ago, and — with the help of the mainstream media — to such an extent that anyone who finds themselves in disagreement with either of those two extremes is now considered abnormal and publicly chided for not choosing one side or the other.

If you don't agree that biological gender does not exist and that choosing one's gender identity must be a priority for 5-year-old children, then you are homophobic. Hell, I expect that it won't be all too long anymore before simply being heterosexual will be construed as homophobia somehow. And yet in the other vein, if you're not masturbating to the star-spangled banner every day with your other hand on the Bible, then you must be a dirty Libtard™ communist pedophile reptilian from the 137th dimension who eats babies for breakfast and smokes joints that are laced with adrenochrome.

Humans...