Thrive II: This is What it Takes

[Emil El Zapato]

Mmm one of many names, your younger bro came over to the other side, why ?, other bro no , why ?. IMAGINE no or a totalllly different politicks with sides and no centre, our present systems world wide, no matter religeons or clolour or pollllitics is in massive change atm, banking huge change and hugest change is human curRENTSeas, imo and forknowledge plus feels n noospheric diving, a very simple happening is happening, faster n faster, because of death n pain the unknowing walls are sliding down, outragious energies are filtering in, we are like a nighly dead tre growing bark and leaves our fruit Earths godsend, WW death rates are SKYrocketing plus dissease n pains etc and letting goes and letting bee's are causing mayhem with the old matricksy narratives, Anchors n Clearors are getting seriousely happy and working harder than ever as more light to be and or work with, man oh man watch the trickLE down affect effect all exponentialllly.

Because they begin to see the absurdity of the rightward sub-species. They are jacked as a group, they have been ruined by their parenting and their genetics. No one wants to be part of that even when the urge is strong. And life teaches us all important lessons. And I suspect that genetic crossbreeding enters into the formula.

[Emil El Zapato]

I've read a number of articles about companies trolling the ranks of the senior citizens and elderly to fill positions in a way they didn't used to before. Searching generationally for work ethics that politics has not destroyed or at least a personality tolerable to those enclosed in a confined workspace forty hours a week. The militaries are so strapped for warm bodies they are reserving their young recruits for field work and looking for older civilians to fill administrative roles.

As much as the woke of any age (and I observe wokeism isn't strictly relegated to chronological age) no matter how much they rail and scream that society is out to get them and all their fringe groups they are basically undoing themselves. No one not even their own cretaors as the Sam Brinton Saga wants them because they accrue liability. No one wants to hire them, live near them, attend school with them, play on a team with them, etc. They are basically writing themselves out of society and even out of existence and they think more stringent legislation and woke politics to protect them will make them viable.

When I say wokeism isn't confined to Gen Z I refer to the older people like at my former place of employ. In their forties and fifties, mostly female, who behave with woke mannerisms, angry that no one is noticing them and wanting to start emotional and physical acts of violence because no one is noticing them or otherwise not treating them as entitled. Of course there was the usual young woke idiocy there and there's nothing sadder than a 19 year entitled liberal progressive trying to start a fist fight with a sixty year old woman. It's radical, liberal or progressive: its Baby Huey Has Roid Rage.

And while I have observed a few woke conservatives, the stark reality is that there is one side of the political spectrum that is responsible for allowing wokeism to be conceived. Blaming wokeism on the right just makes one look foolish. As foolish as blaming the left for the moral majority. It's as destructive as people who are all bullets, boots and war.
There is no getting around the fact woke is the spoiled love child the left conceived, birthed, nurtured nearly unto the point of retardation. Ironically they can't abort the baby, or give it away, do not know how to discipline, check or rein in without risking votes.

That's what comes of everyone gets a gold star, everyone gets a medal for showing up and breathing, everyone is special, everyone's opinion matters, the state should take on the role of parenting, taking away a parent's right to discipline. I'm not sure who Gen Z hates more, themselves or the society that made them.

That is a really sad thing to allow to happen to an entire generation. A generation of lives wasted, sacrificed on an alter of political ideology.

And the MAGA kids. They'll be on the farm, behind the wheel of a tractor or casting die, earning a solid middle income, likely join a company between ages 18 to 24 and stay there the rest of their lives slowly advancing up some ordinary skilled trades job or family business. Maybe go to church, get married, have a couple of kids and the unemployable woke can sneer about how strait and bigoted and full of hate those solidly employable young adults are.

I'm not going to read your post Boids because I know it will give me indigestion or a migraine but let me explain the philosophy behind benevolence and ingraining a sense of worth.

Most psychologists recognize and have since Freud that it is our sense of worth that moves us along the path of healthy growth to maturity. There are two mental driving paths we can follow to what our society considers 'success'. I would conjecture that you find value in the 'kick their ass so they get their shit together' method. Ok, 'if it was good enough for me, it is good enough for you'. I personally do not subscribe to that 'common wisdom'. The end product of that approach is a successful 'socially malfunctioning' human being. If you doubt that take a quick look around you. Our societies are crumbling because the vast majority of adults don't 'feel' the inherent personal dignity endowed by God and State.

Now State is a very highly debatable area for its role in treating us with dignity. I ask you, does the state, did even your parents give a sense of unconditional love that a healthy human child needs to start the journey to the light, of with luck, is at its barest a sense of peace?

I dare say, no, must of us didn't. And it is because we are ignorant, not enlightened in a human way and those that are and in a position to implement that social experiment do so. And, of course, the rest of us just scoff and say how stupid and how soft we will be. No, it doesn't make us soft, it makes us resilient because endowed with a true spirit and a true heart, we have that reserve to sustain ourselves in the inevitable times when life will reach out and kick our asses. The truly fortunate have a reserve that can sustain others as well.

We live in a completely dysfunctional subhuman culture. Is it wrong to try to ameliorate the wrongs that some can so clearly see? Incidentally, that is the strongest motivator for my Z'er.

[Emil El Zapato]

That's nonsense. If there is any truth to that boomer fantasy it just demonstrates that my daughter is tops of many. She works harder than I ever did. Full-time job, full time student. Though I did that, I wasn't very good at it. She just keeps kicking butt.

Lack techno knowledge? This I will have to investigate. They must have been researching 3-year olds. I'm getting a headache.

Who said the next generation will bring us down? Thomas Jefferson!

Ok, I gained a quick perspective here:

“Compared to other generations, I find GenZ to be highly innovative, and adaptable. They are not afraid to challenge the status quo and bring new ideas to the table. They also value authenticity and transparency and expect companies to be socially responsible and ethical,” says Adam Garfield, marketing director at Hairbro.

“However, one area where I believe GenZ could improve in the workplace is their communication skills. While they are proficient in using digital communication tools, they may lack some of the interpersonal skills required for face-to-face interactions. GenZers could benefit from developing their communication skills to build stronger relationships with colleagues and clients,” adds Garfield.

The part about challenging the status quo and lacking interpersonal skills sounds suspiciously like the young, as yet not reached full maturity and inexperienced AND/OR people that live at Project Avalon, except by choice PA'ers have gone much much farther down that rabbit hole built by a substandard rabbit. The entrances and exits were designed to connect together.

The rabbit must have been educated at the Texas A&M College of Engineering.

[Diabolical Boids]

Ok, I gained a quick perspective here:

“Compared to other generations, I find GenZ to be highly innovative, and adaptable. They are not afraid to challenge the status quo and bring new ideas to the table. They also value authenticity and transparency and expect companies to be socially responsible and ethical,” says Adam Garfield, marketing director at Hairbro.

“However, one area where I believe GenZ could improve in the workplace is their communication skills. While they are proficient in using digital communication tools, they may lack some of the interpersonal skills required for face-to-face interactions. GenZers could benefit from developing their communication skills to build stronger relationships with colleagues and clients,” adds Garfield.

The part about challenging the status quo and lacking interpersonal skills sounds suspiciously like the young, as yet not reached full maturity and inexperienced AND/OR people that live at Project Avalon, except by choice PA'ers have gone much much farther down that rabbit hole built by a substandard rabbit. The entrances and exits were designed to connect together.

The rabbit must have been educated at the Texas A&M College of Engineering.

I'm sorry that a few casual observations are rattling your cage. Perhaps you might ask yourself why those words bother you so much? I'm not criticizing you, and none of the remarks are about you, they are about political influence and institutionalized thought. They are not singling out a single person for hostility, they are directed at failed institutions like political agendas?

The evening news and crime records suffice to say that politically motivated and flavored institutions have failed children well before feminism indoctrinated women into thinking the state made a better co parent than the biological father.

I think people will always favor a flawed humanity and sometimes faulty love then a cold institutionalized agenda with overworked and jaded social workers and judges as remote parents guiding their children. I was raised in a household where abuse would have been preferable to the psychological torture I endured from my liberal feminist mother. All her kids reminded her that she wasn't really part of the insititution being without an abortion and saddled with kids and husband how could she say she was really part of the movement?
I can't say I would faired better under a state run school or juvenile home though because family extends far beyond the parents. And I'm sorry to say it that unconditional love is highly misunderstood concept when it comes to raising kids. Conditions exist in raising kids who do not behave like animals. Children are basically animals until guided by discipline and development into a place where they can begin exercising their use of reason and self respect. If that guidance is considered abuse or infringing on children then you end up with a Generation Z.

Or to say it more simply its easy to see who had a slap on the bum and who didn't.

Parents fell for politically anchored and institutionalized agenda where children must be treated equally, not on merit or success, and lacking any sort of discipline because anything that was vaguely authoritarian was considered abuse. Compare that to those mean parents who disciplined their children, and expected them to succeed on merit and that they shouldn't expect preferential treatment. I presume these are the abusive parents you are referring to that a state run institution would do better at? But we still cannot explain why those children are company and companies find a pleasure to work with.

Have we asked children who have spent their lives in state run institutions, or constructs, or where institutions have undue influence over children like inner city kids how well their lives have fared or does the evening news of fatherless children shot and killed on the street or spending their youth if not their entire life in prison not enough of an eye opener to know that institutionalized parenting doesn't work. Generation Z is an immediate example of why it doesn't.

[Emil El Zapato]

I'm sorry that a few casual observations are rattling your cage. Perhaps you might ask yourself why those words bother you so much? I'm not criticizing you, and none of the remarks are about you, they are about political influence and institutionalized thought. They are not singling out a single person for hostility, they are directed at failed institutions like political agendas?

The evening news and crime records suffice to say that politically motivated and flavored institutions have failed children well before feminism indoctrinated women into thinking the state made a better co parent than the biological father.

I think people will always favor a flawed humanity and sometimes faulty love then a cold institutionalized agenda with overworked and jaded social workers and judges as remote parents guiding their children. I was raised in a household where abuse would have been preferable to the psychological torture I endured from my liberal feminist mother. All her kids reminded her that she wasn't really part of the insititution being without an abortion and saddled with kids and husband how could she say she was really part of the movement?
I can't say I would faired better under a state run school or juvenile home though because family extends far beyond the parents. And I'm sorry to say it that unconditional love is highly misunderstood concept when it comes to raising kids. Conditions exist in raising kids who do not behave like animals. Children are basically animals until guided by discipline and development into a place where they can begin exercising their use of reason and self respect. If that guidance is considered abuse or infringing on children then you end up with a Generation Z.

Or to say it more simply its easy to see who had a slap on the bum and who didn't.

Parents fell for politically anchored and institutionalized agenda where children must be treated equally, not on merit or success, and lacking any sort of discipline because anything that was vaguely authoritarian was considered abuse. Compare that to those mean parents who disciplined their children, and expected them to succeed on merit and that they shouldn't expect preferential treatment. I presume these are the abusive parents you are referring to that a state run institution would do better at? But we still cannot explain why those children are company and companies find a pleasure to work with.

Have we asked children who have spent their lives in state run institutions, or constructs, or where institutions have undue influence over children like inner city kids how well their lives have fared or does the evening news of fatherless children shot and killed on the street or spending their youth if not their entire life in prison not enough of an eye opener to know that institutionalized parenting doesn't work. Generation Z is an immediate example of why it doesn't.

True, because frankly most people are not intelligent enough or not emotionally mature enough or not compassionate enough to raise their own children. The nature of institutions are two-fold, the informed, healthy, pro-social etc and the vast majority which aren't. Those that can help, try but invariably fail because too many simply don't understand. What do I mean by not understanding. Perhaps, intellectually I am unable to make my point, I don't speak heart so I am a bit constrained. The closest I can get is to say that as a species, how can we discuss what a successful social order is without ever having experienced it. We are locked in a vicious cycle of dysfunction.

One point though, where children are concerned, it isn't a matter of equal treatment, it is about fair and compassionate treatment. A fully finished adult is concerned about equality and fairness. Not better, not worse, equal and fair.

Unlike, individuals such as DeSantis, Trump, I wouldn't expect to be President of the United States because I am an ethically flawed being and I recognize that fact. And I feel that way despite the fact that I was always told I could be anything I wanted, so I became an asshole, no not really, I could be anything even Vice-President of the United States.

The point is that a lack of spiritual generosity obviates any effort to make us better. It is simple, basic and missing in modern culture and there are those that want to remedy that human failure and there are those that are perfectly happy the way we are. Knowing that has always been extremely painful for me. There is no other way to say it. Honest to God, too many are unreachable.

[Aianawa]

Because they begin to see the absurdity of the rightward sub-species. They are jacked as a group, they have been ruined by their parenting and their genetics. No one wants to be part of that even when the urge is strong. And life teaches us all important lessons. And I suspect that genetic crossbreeding enters into the formula.

Did you have differing parents ?, as not all your sibs think the same ?.

[Diabolical Boids]

True, because frankly most people are not intelligent enough or not emotionally mature enough or not compassionate enough to raise their own children. The nature of institutions are two-fold, the informed, healthy, pro-social etc and the vast majority which aren't. Those that can help, try but invariably fail because too many simply don't understand. What do I mean by not understanding. Perhaps, intellectually I am unable to make my point, I don't speak heart so I am a bit constrained. The closest I can get is to say that as a species, how can we discuss what a successful social order is without ever having experienced it. We are locked in a vicious cycle of dysfunction.

One point though, where children are concerned, it isn't a matter of equal treatment, it is about fair and compassionate treatment. A fully finished adult is concerned about equality and fairness. Not better, not worse, equal and fair.

Unlike, individuals such as DeSantis, Trump, I wouldn't expect to be President of the United States because I am an ethically flawed being and I recognize that fact. And I feel that way despite the fact that I was always told I could be anything I wanted, so I became an asshole, no not really, I could be anything even Vice-President of the United States.

The point is that a lack of spiritual generosity obviates any effort to make us better. It is simple, basic and missing in modern culture and there are those that want to remedy that human failure and there are those that are perfectly happy the way we are. Knowing that has always been extremely painful for me. There is no other way to say it. Honest to God, too many are unreachable.

That's quite a judgie indictment of all of humanity. No one on the planet is fit to raise kids except soulless robots?

Do you feel you would have been better off raised by robots? By a program instead of flesh and blood cause honestly these sound like the words of people who don't want to feel anything.

Are there really such things as a fairly and fully finished adult? Even here among us we must have someone with some flaws (raises hand) or did I stumble unto a nest supreme ultimate higher beings?

People, meaning people like us, miss the mark on compassion and maturity ALL THE TIME and still have been able to raise mostly functional kids, not bodies of perfection, and have been for thousands of years.

And even people who have been raised in less than desirable household situations typically carry something away from situation that others who were raised in more nurturing environments will never know or have. Adversity creates strength if you let it. I've invested a lot of self work in myself and helped others and guess what? We still miss the mark all the time, sometimes we get distracted and aren't compassionate enough, sometimes we have to address our own problems instead of the constant inflow of problems flowing in from humanity. At no point has anyone said we needed our kids taken away

My kids would kick your arse down the stairs and up again if you suggested some social programming edifice would have made a better parent than me. I would not approve of it but I had to let them learn to think for themselves.

I rather think you are basing this broad indictment of all humanity on the faults of your own parents and your own upbringing which the law of averages show is probably not the same as everyone elses.

No one leaves childhood unscathed. The only question is do you brood and curl up with it all your life or address it, heal it and move on?

[Diabolical Boids]

Did you have differing parents ?, as not all your sibs think the same ?.

I did. It's a good question. Siblings walk away from the old home place with varying perceptions of how abusive/ nurturing it was and that's based on a lot of reasons like how old they all are when events occur, and revolving dynamics of family. Unlike state run institutions family units are not static, they are always evolving and changing, flexing and flowing.

My older siblings could just up and leave the drama whereas I was too young too unless they carried me off to their father's house which they often did so in some ways they got acute short term abuse while mine was more chronic. This is why they ended up abused but able to get up and escape and why I basically was more like the psychological torture one would experience in a reeducation camp. I was too young to climb the walls as it were until I was no longer too young to climb the walls. But its caused disagreement into the severity of our home life. That caused a great deal of difference in how the patterns of abuse in our family from barely being affected or more able to sort it out and those who were anxiety raddled psycho messes well into adult life.

But even when there is not differing parents not all children come away from abusive or neglectful parents or even normal parents the same way. My mother seems like she was abused by her parents, but the rest of her siblings don't bear any such evidence.

My brother claims my mother never bought clothes for him but the rest of us were dressed to the nines because there's a belief that nice clothes hide bruises or such well turned out kids could hardly come from a violent home.

Part of it is perception and part of it is the always evolving dynamics of the family unit. I have another brother that never lived in the home with much beyond 14 years of age and he thought we had a wonderful mother whereas the rest of us obviously did not. He married very early, like the age of 17 and his wife as young as she was immediately spotted that he came from a disturbed household regardless of his warm maternal feelings and knew my mother for what she was immediately.

[Aragorn]

It doesn't really explain why the people of Florida didn't have a right to vote for him?

I never said they didn't have a right to vote for him, so please don't put any words into my mouth that I never spoke. The fact that you felt a need to do that, even though I hadn't come anywhere near the statement that you implied I would have made, shows your own bias, and it's not the first time you are letting your right-wing bias shine through either. I was actually already quite shocked over how you downplayed the storming of the Capitol to something akin to a peaceful demonstration by — quote — "unarmed people" and some innocent banter.

What I did say — albeit worded slightly differently — is that DeSantis is a certifiable scumbag, and I stick to my opinion of him.

Nor do I know if any of it is true or just more hate porn to put the hate in sharper focus. Nor why that is even necessary to have any such channels in what is turning into a global free hate society. I wish someone would explain that to me.

Empire Files is a legitimate and thorough investigative journalism organization, albeit — granted — with a left-wing focus. Its founders are Abby Martin and Mike Prysner, and they don't publish lies, rumors, half-truths or propaganda, even though they will not hide their left-wing orientation.

Abby Martin is an independent journalist who used to work for RT — which did not stop her from openly criticizing the Russian annexation of Crimea on her own show "Breaking The Set" at RT — and Mike Prysner is an Iraq war veteran.

Some of Empire Files' work is sponsored by TeleSUR, which represents the Latin-American vantage, but they are always objective and they stick to reporting on verifiable facts. They are equally critical of the typical American left as they are of the American right. Abby Martin is also persona non grata in Israel because she made several documentaries regarding the atrocities committed against the Palestinians by the Israeli government and military.

On more than one occasion, Abby and her team have had to run for their lives while reporting on civil unrest in Latin America and elsewhere.

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Note: This was supposed to be a thread regarding what could or should — at least, according to Mr. and Mrs. Proctor & Gamble — be the future of society, and it has unfortunately once again been hijacked and distilled down into the never-ending and meaninglessly parochial discussion about US-centric politics. I am therefore wisely going to be taking my leave from this thread.

Adios, muchachos!

[Aianawa]

I did. It's a good question. Siblings walk away from the old home place with varying perceptions of how abusive/ nurturing it was and that's based on a lot of reasons like how old they all are when events occur, and revolving dynamics of family. Unlike state run institutions family units are not static, they are always evolving and changing, flexing and flowing.

My older siblings could just up and leave the drama whereas I was too young too unless they carried me off to their father's house which they often did so in some ways they got acute short term abuse while mine was more chronic. This is why they ended up abused but able to get up and escape and why I basically was more like the psychological torture one would experience in a reeducation camp. I was too young to climb the walls as it were until I was no longer too young to climb the walls. But its caused disagreement into the severity of our home life. That caused a great deal of difference in how the patterns of abuse in our family from barely being affected or more able to sort it out and those who were anxiety raddled psycho messes well into adult life.

But even when there is not differing parents not all children come away from abusive or neglectful parents or even normal parents the same way. My mother seems like she was abused by her parents, but the rest of her siblings don't bear any such evidence.

My brother claims my mother never bought clothes for him but the rest of us were dressed to the nines because there's a belief that nice clothes hide bruises or such well turned out kids could hardly come from a violent home.

Part of it is perception and part of it is the always evolving dynamics of the family unit. I have another brother that never lived in the home with much beyond 14 years of age and he thought we had a wonderful mother whereas the rest of us obviously did not. He married very early, like the age of 17 and his wife as young as she was immediately spotted that he came from a disturbed household regardless of his warm maternal feelings and knew my mother for what she was immediately.

Massive WOW, thought i was reading Many names reply and at end looked up to see it be DBoidy, interesting.

[Aianawa]

I never said they didn't have a right to vote for him, so please don't put any words into my mouth that I never spoke. The fact that you felt a need to do that, even though I hadn't come anywhere near the statement that you implied I would have made, shows your own bias, and it's not the first time you are letting your right-wing bias shine through either. I was actually already quite shocked over how you downplayed the storming of the Capitol to something akin to a peaceful demonstration by — quote — "unarmed people" and some innocent banter.

What I did say — albeit worded slightly differently — is that DeSantis is a certifiable scumbag, and I stick to my opinion of him.



Empire Files is a legitimate and thorough investigative journalism organization, albeit — granted — with a left-wing focus. Its founders are Abby Martin and Mike Prysner, and they don't publish lies, rumors, half-truths or propaganda, even though they will not hide their left-wing orientation.

Abby Martin is an independent journalist who used to work for RT — which did not stop her from openly criticizing the Russian annexation of Crimea on her own show "Breaking The Set" at RT — and Mike Prysner is an Iraq war veteran.

Some of Empire Files' work is sponsored by TeleSUR, which represents the Latin-American vantage, but they are always objective and they stick to reporting on verifiable facts. They are equally critical of the typical American left as they are of the American right. Abby Martin is also persona non grata in Israel because she made several documentaries regarding the atrocities committed against the Palestinians by the Israeli government and military.

On more than one occasion, Abby and her team have had to run for their lives while reporting on civil unrest in Latin America and elsewhere.

---

Note: This was supposed to be a thread regarding what could or should — at least, according to Mr. and Mrs. Proctor & Gamble — be the future of society, and it has unfortunately once again been hijacked and distilled down into the never-ending and meaninglessly parochial discussion about US-centric politics. I am therefore wisely going to be taking my leave from this thread.

Adios, muchachos!

Why you run is beyond me . it be ok to keep interacting Aragorny Frank, i like your goodie n baddie plus nuetral sharings

[Diabolical Boids]

I never said they didn't have a right to vote for him, so please don't put any words into my mouth that I never spoke. The fact that you felt a need to do that, even though I hadn't come anywhere near the statement that you implied I would have made, shows your own bias, and it's not the first time you are letting your right-wing bias shine through either. I was actually already quite shocked over how you downplayed the storming of the Capitol to something akin to a peaceful demonstration by — quote — "unarmed people" and some innocent banter.

What I did say — albeit worded slightly differently — is that DeSantis is a certifiable scumbag, and I stick to my opinion of him.



Empire Files is a legitimate and thorough investigative journalism organization, albeit — granted — with a left-wing focus. Its founders are Abby Martin and Mike Prysner, and they don't publish lies, rumors, half-truths or propaganda, even though they will not hide their left-wing orientation.

Abby Martin is an independent journalist who used to work for RT — which did not stop her from openly criticizing the Russian annexation of Crimea on her own show "Breaking The Set" at RT — and Mike Prysner is an Iraq war veteran.

Some of Empire Files' work is sponsored by TeleSUR, which represents the Latin-American vantage, but they are always objective and they stick to reporting on verifiable facts. They are equally critical of the typical American left as they are of the American right. Abby Martin is also persona non grata in Israel because she made several documentaries regarding the atrocities committed against the Palestinians by the Israeli government and military.

On more than one occasion, Abby and her team have had to run for their lives while reporting on civil unrest in Latin America and elsewhere.

---

Note: This was supposed to be a thread regarding what could or should — at least, according to Mr. and Mrs. Proctor & Gamble — be the future of society, and it has unfortunately once again been hijacked and distilled down into the never-ending and meaninglessly parochial discussion about US-centric politics. I am therefore wisely going to be taking my leave from this thread.

Adios, muchachos!

I wasn't putting your words in your mouth. The right to vote was the context of the exchange shortly before you posed the video. I was honestly curious what the video had to do with the implication that Floridians didn't have the right to vote. And you are correct that should have not even been raised in either a discussion in praise or critique of the movie. I mentioned earlier the addictive nature of the emotions generated by American politics. That literally nothing else can be spoke of even if its the polar opposite of politics.

I wish you wouldn't leave. The thread then will become about nothing but more of the same.

[Emil El Zapato]

Did you have differing parents ?, as not all your sibs think the same ?.

we all grew up in the same household. My older brother cared for his dying wife for the last 3 years. It changed him. My younger brother, moved states. I warned him about what it would mean for his kids. He changed over time.

I did. It's a good question. Siblings walk away from the old home place with varying perceptions of how abusive/ nurturing it was and that's based on a lot of reasons like how old they all are when events occur, and revolving dynamics of family. Unlike state run institutions family units are not static, they are always evolving and changing, flexing and flowing.

My older siblings could just up and leave the drama whereas I was too young too unless they carried me off to their father's house which they often did so in some ways they got acute short term abuse while mine was more chronic. This is why they ended up abused but able to get up and escape and why I basically was more like the psychological torture one would experience in a reeducation camp. I was too young to climb the walls as it were until I was no longer too young to climb the walls. But its caused disagreement into the severity of our home life. That caused a great deal of difference in how the patterns of abuse in our family from barely being affected or more able to sort it out and those who were anxiety raddled psycho messes well into adult life.

But even when there is not differing parents not all children come away from abusive or neglectful parents or even normal parents the same way. My mother seems like she was abused by her parents, but the rest of her siblings don't bear any such evidence.

My brother claims my mother never bought clothes for him but the rest of us were dressed to the nines because there's a belief that nice clothes hide bruises or such well turned out kids could hardly come from a violent home.

Part of it is perception and part of it is the always evolving dynamics of the family unit. I have another brother that never lived in the home with much beyond 14 years of age and he thought we had a wonderful mother whereas the rest of us obviously did not. He married very early, like the age of 17 and his wife as young as she was immediately spotted that he came from a disturbed household regardless of his warm maternal feelings and knew my mother for what she was immediately.

For whatever it is worth Boids. You described the family dynamics exactly as they occur.

[Emil El Zapato]

I never said they didn't have a right to vote for him, so please don't put any words into my mouth that I never spoke. The fact that you felt a need to do that, even though I hadn't come anywhere near the statement that you implied I would have made, shows your own bias, and it's not the first time you are letting your right-wing bias shine through either. I was actually already quite shocked over how you downplayed the storming of the Capitol to something akin to a peaceful demonstration by — quote — "unarmed people" and some innocent banter.

What I did say — albeit worded slightly differently — is that DeSantis is a certifiable scumbag, and I stick to my opinion of him.



Empire Files is a legitimate and thorough investigative journalism organization, albeit — granted — with a left-wing focus. Its founders are Abby Martin and Mike Prysner, and they don't publish lies, rumors, half-truths or propaganda, even though they will not hide their left-wing orientation.

Abby Martin is an independent journalist who used to work for RT — which did not stop her from openly criticizing the Russian annexation of Crimea on her own show "Breaking The Set" at RT — and Mike Prysner is an Iraq war veteran.

Some of Empire Files' work is sponsored by TeleSUR, which represents the Latin-American vantage, but they are always objective and they stick to reporting on verifiable facts. They are equally critical of the typical American left as they are of the American right. Abby Martin is also persona non grata in Israel because she made several documentaries regarding the atrocities committed against the Palestinians by the Israeli government and military.

On more than one occasion, Abby and her team have had to run for their lives while reporting on civil unrest in Latin America and elsewhere.

---

Note: This was supposed to be a thread regarding what could or should — at least, according to Mr. and Mrs. Proctor & Gamble — be the future of society, and it has unfortunately once again been hijacked and distilled down into the never-ending and meaninglessly parochial discussion about US-centric politics. I am therefore wisely going to be taking my leave from this thread.

Adios, muchachos!

I agree with the others Aragorn, it isn't about politics as much as it is about the people and the principles are global if not universal. Speaking of which Anton Petrov posted a good video recently.

[Emil El Zapato]

How about this Aragorn?

What is your definition of a Wokemon? When I see the word, I think of individuals making noise while lashing out in pain, not hate. Complainers I put on my scale of tolerance at least a step or two above haters. So I find them worthy of tolerance and forgiveness and frankly not worth much consideration. Certainly I'm not offended by them simply because I can feel their pain but at the same time concede that they can be equal opportunity offenders. And I agree that Wokemons shouldn't be construed as Z'ers. The Z'ers are aware and are still working out there roles and missions in society. And as all young generations since Methuselah still experimenting with the optimal solutions to existential issues.