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    Facist parties were banned after ww2 in Italy.

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    For what reason does a party go from 4 % to then winning, mayby the draconian lockdown etc response is to vote the ones out that did that, at any cost including this lady ?.

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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    Facist parties were banned after ww2 in Italy.
    That's why they changed their appearance, Vern.

    The same thing was true here in the Flanders with Vlaams Blok ("Flemish Block"), which was convicted for racism. The party then simply dissolved itself and recreated itself under the name Vlaams Belang ("Flemish Interest"), with the same members and the exact same leadership.

    So technically, it's a different party, but under the hood, it's still the same far-right party, with the same xenophobia, and the same objective of seceding the Flanders from the rest of Belgium as an independent nation state. And it is a well-known fact that they have already met up both with Blut und Ehre, a German neo-Nazi movement, and with members of the Ku Klux Klan.





    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    For what reason does a party go from 4 % to then winning, mayby the draconian lockdown etc response is to vote the ones out that did that, at any cost including this lady ?.
    Yes, something like that, although it runs deeper than the Covid-19 lockdowns — mind you that Italy was for quite a while the European epicenter of the pandemic, and so the lockdowns there were an absolute necessity. I think the success of the far-right is also related to the policies of the European Union as a whole, as well as to the fact that Italy is where many of the refugees from Africa seek to enter the EU.
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    Absolute ?, in the world where it was absolute, the worst death rates occured plus ongoing mental health plunge plus suicide rate ?, i trust the science now coming out Frank not the lockstep bs of the past, imo.

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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    Absolute ?, in the world where it was absolute, the worst death rates occured plus ongoing mental health plunge plus suicide rate ?, i trust the science now coming out Frank not the lockstep bs of the past, imo.
    The numbers you are citing are not correct, Vern. Those numbers — and the "science" you are talking about — come from those very same old right-wing sources that you've been championing earlier.
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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    The numbers you are citing are not correct, Vern. Those numbers — and the "science" you are talking about — come from those very same old right-wing sources that you've been championing earlier.
    Lol some came from the CDC , suicide etc from peer reviewed science, the phyzer doc court ordered being released each moonth are fucking disgusting in there putridness, ave ya read them science docs Frank ? , straight from the horses mouth ?, yeah rite, very far rite.

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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    The numbers you are citing are not correct, Vern. Those numbers — and the "science" you are talking about — come from those very same old right-wing sources that you've been championing earlier.
    Lol some came from the CDC , suicide etc from peer reviewed science, the phyzer doc court ordered being released each moonth are fucking disgusting in there putridness, ave ya read them science docs Frank ? , straight from the horses mouth ?, yeah rite, very far rite.
    As always, you believe what you want to believe, Vern...
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    Well phyzer had to release their docs monthly, it is all there in the docs, oh were the vaccs 99% effective, nope, 85% nope, 66% nope, over 50% nope and they knew but lockstepped through the Legassy media 99% knowingly, vaxx harm n death statistics now coming out through countries health systems at present ?, unknown cause of death statistics world wide ?.

    Ignore away Frank.

    Something is still not rite with this election, if the usual susspects wish to win they usualllly do, something smells.

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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    Well phyzer had to release their docs monthly, it is all there in the docs, oh were the vaccs 99% effective, nope, 85% nope, 66% nope, over 50% nope and they knew but lockstepped through the Legassy media 99% knowingly, vaxx harm n death statistics now coming out through countries health systems at present ?, unknown cause of death statistics world wide ?.
    Statistics can be interpreted in any variety of ways, Vern. Your statistics either way don't mesh with those of the rest of the world.

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    Ignore away Frank.
    That's a blade that cuts both ways, my friend. By the same token, I can say "Knee-jerk away, Vern."

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    Something is still not rite with this election, if the usual susspects wish to win they usualllly do, something smells.
    Contrary to conspiratorial beliefs, the elections in Italy were completely legitimate. I didn't see you positing that there would have been anything fishy about the election of Donald Trump in 2016, although you've been solidly in the camp of the election fraud believers when Joe Biden won in 2020.

    Something's off, indeed. It's just not what you think it is.
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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    That's why they changed their appearance, Vern.

    The same thing was true here in the Flanders with Vlaams Blok ("Flemish Block"), which was convicted for racism. The party then simply dissolved itself and recreated itself under the name Vlaams Belang ("Flemish Interest"), with the same members and the exact same leadership.

    So technically, it's a different party, but under the hood, it's still the same far-right party, with the same xenophobia, and the same objective of seceding the Flanders from the rest of Belgium as an independent nation state. And it is a well-known fact that they have already met up both with Blut und Ehre, a German neo-Nazi movement, and with members of the Ku Klux Klan.
    David Duke reorganised the klan.
    He changed his title from grand wizard to national director and the klan then became known as the ''knights party'' so they could fight for ''white civil rights''
    Ní siocháin go saoirse

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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    I think the success of the far-right is also related to the policies of the European Union as a whole, as well as to the fact that Italy is where many of the refugees from Africa seek to enter the EU.
    I'm seeing a lot of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" going on for the last few years now, what a dangerous way to pick leaders.

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    so they could fight for ''white civil rights''
    That's an interesting way to put it.
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    If Italy chooses, rite word chooses ?, a far rite party, will other countries in area follow suit ?.

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    And if this strange domino happening continues happening will a new middle be found ?, a silver lining ? as does not appear to be a middle anymore in many countries, just far rite n left or at labelling as such.

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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    If Italy chooses, rite word chooses ?, a far rite party, will other countries in area follow suit ?.
    Well, the far-right appears to be on the rise in many different places now, possibly just as a mirroring effect, i.e. the people in one country taking an example after the people in another country. A kind of snowballing effect, if you will.





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    And if this strange domino happening continues happening will a new middle be found ?, a silver lining ? as does not appear to be a middle anymore in many countries, just far rite n left or at labelling as such.
    Unfortunately, we seem to have already long passed the opportunity for moderation and sanity. Everyone is getting more polarized all the time, and everything is building up into extremes — some of the reasons being the role of either paid or unpaid "influencers", and the mercenary attitude of the big tech companies.
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    Oh no no no no Frank, there is always hope, lol forget about me as i know we already won-now, just watch the water lol, gas pipe leaks aside, for some the credits are rolling n others pain n suffering.

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