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    The Bickering Gateway to and from The Shire

    While Bill has atm his pain body on full display and these types of behaviours are being seen for what they actualllly are, ones pain n trauma in self validated expression, with dear Bill it may be old or new, i don't know, he continues to repeat the same projection begetting triggers in others and creating ripple trauma outside of himself imo.

    How would Bill handle himself here on TOT, i mean it, how ?

    I put hello because he will be told of thread and come energies driven to enquire, why ?, imo because the old The One, Aragorn etc etc members past pain n trauma created, can this be resolved ?.

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    Bill would need to wish for it to be resolved. All signs point to no on that one. But I suspect he will need help when it comes to viewing posts here. He's not in control of things the way that he thinks he is.

    When a person believes that they have the one and only way, they lose their way. He seems to have a bit of that dynamic going on.

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    Project Avalon does not have an Aianawese to English translator, so I'm confident they won't be reading this thread...


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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    While Bill has atm his pain body on full display and these types of behaviours are being seen for what they actualllly are, ones pain n trauma in self validated expression, with dear Bill it may be old or new, i don't know, he continues to repeat the same projection begetting triggers in others and creating ripple trauma outside of himself imo.

    How would Bill handle himself here on TOT, i mean it, how ?

    I put hello because he will be told of thread and come energies driven to enquire, why ?, imo because the old The One, Aragorn etc etc members past pain n trauma created, can this be resolved ?.
    Well, Billzebub will definitely be told of this thread, yes, but he won't be able to see it with his own eyes. He has now been banned, which he never even would have imagined possible.

    Not that we don't want him to know about anything being spoken of here, mind you — on the contrary, your thread is publicly visible, and that's also how we're going to keep it — but now he's going to have to depend on screenshots and copy/pastes from his minions. Hey, it'll probably drive up the number of visits from long gone members again, which should look good in the stats.

    As for what you call "his pain body", I've been thinking a lot about what you said with regard to him, and especially so in recent times — specifically, as you could read already, the way Fred Steeves was nailed to the wall as the criminal of the century, the manipulation behind the scenes, the nepotism, the unconditional protection of his beloved "super-sensitive" iota regardless of how many of his longstanding members she was viciously attacking, the endorsement of the witch hunters, my unrequested retirement (without any notification of such), the banning of PurpleLama, the sudden banning of giovonni (whose account had already been retired for years), and then the conversion of my own retirement into a ban (again without any notification of such, and without any ban reason, just as when he personally banned me back in 2015), the way he cut off mojo's attempt at reconciliation between both forums by moving his "A response to TOT" thread to members-only and (presumably) closing it, and so on.

    Oh, and I'm forgetting the juiciest part of it all, namely that a couple of the witch hunters suggested that, now that "Gracy May" had been perma-banned, nothing would stand in Billzebub's way of changing Gracy's login password in their Admin CP and then logging in as "her" in order to read "her" PMs and see who else might have known that Gracy was actually Fred Steeves in disguise.

    I was there on that members-only thread when it was suggested, and it was undeniably obvious that Billzebub was seriously contemplating that option, just as that, knowing him, I'm also fairly convinced — say by about 85% — that he wouldn't have been able to withstand the temptation, and that he would by now indeed already have done so. I know that Billzebub has been accused of this before, but right now, the option of reading banned members' private messages has at least officially been thrown on the table.

    And if they are indeed going to indulge in that over at Project Avalon, then this does of course also set a precedent for the future on account of when Billzebub and his cronies feel that it would be justified to cross that significant ethical barrier with regard to banned members. Because once you cross that line, there's no way back anymore. And then it will become easier the next time, and the next time, and the next time, until it becomes a mere routine anymore. And given how easily a very subjective reality is bent around into a matter of objective necessity over at Project Avalon, there is indeed a very high likelihood of the snooping through banned members' private messages becoming standard practice over there. After all, "if you haven't done anything wrong, then you won't be banned, and then you have nothing to fear", right?

    Either way, I had already begun noticing a number of things back when I was still an administrator at Project Avalon, which is when I began realizing that, in building my bridge, I had allowed myself to become blind to who and what the man really is. By nature, I am someone who always looks for and reaches out to the good in every person, even when my instincts tell me that I'm being naive.

    The more I thought about it, and especially in light of how his behavior toward myself always turned out friendly whenever he thought I could be useful to him, but passive-aggressive, disdainful and avoidant when not, the more I started realizing that my initial analysis of Billzebub's personality was actually spot-on, namely that he is indeed a clinical narcissist, and that he is manipulative, bordering on Machiavellianism — not exactly the kind of person qualified to diagnose other people as "sociopathic", "socially inept" or "insensitive". In fact, I would say that he probably scores high on cognitive empathy (which is the ability to intellectually assess another person's situation from their vantage) but very low on emotional empathy (which is the ability to feel what another person is feeling).



    Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) is a mental disorder characterized by a life-long pattern of exaggerated feelings of self-importance, an excessive craving for admiration, and a diminished ability to empathize with others' feelings. Narcissistic personality disorder is one of the eleven sub-types of the broader category known as personality disorders.

    Personality disorders are a class of mental disorders characterized by enduring maladaptive patterns of behavior, cognition, and inner experience, exhibited across many contexts and deviating from those accepted by any culture. These patterns develop early, are inflexible, and are associated with significant distress or disability.

    Criteria for diagnosing personality disorders are listed in the fifth chapter of the International Classification of Diseases (ICD) and in the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM).





    Furthermore, the way he refers to the members of the Project Avalon forum as Avalonians — which the members themselves have also already long ago started doing, following his example — suggests that the way he runs Project Avalon would be identical to how a cult leader runs a cult. Project Avalon is "a special place", with "special people", who are "awake and aware", and Billzebub's word is the law, with full and unquestioned deference whenever Ceasar makes an executive decision without consulting any of the other staff members, suggesting once again that he only regards his staff members as useful assets without feeling beholden to them — even though I've also come to witness during my time as an administrator there how much he likes accosting his female staff members.

    He's also not very brave. He's overly self-confident and by consequence also reckless, yes — just ask his poor dog Mara, who got to suffer from his stupidity and recklessness on more than one occasion — and those two things together may make him come across as brave: a fearless mountaineer and adventurer who boldly goes where no man has gone before. But it's all a ruse, because if he were truly brave, then he'd be facing his responsibilities, his petty, obsessive-compulsive, passive-aggressive behavior, and all the callously unfair decisions he has been making — all of the people who were banned by him personally for no reason, and all of the people who should have been banned (and with good reason) but who are being protected — instead of running away and eternally blaming someone else every time.

    In fact, he's so petty that he doesn't even care about whom he blames for what, so long as he's got someone to blame. I have experienced this first-hand back when I was an administrator over at his palace. Their server was showing years of neglect in terms of maintenance, and their hosting company was not willing to meet him on his rather awkward demands. But he blamed me for that — not openly of course, because he knew all too well that it wasn't my fault, but he did it in the way he interacted with me, so as to channel his frustration over the problems with the server onto me.

    After all, at that point in time, the ever-elusive Tommy had shown up again, and Tommy is Billzebub's golden boy. Tommy can do no wrong. Tommy is a genius. And Tommy is more of an IT specialist than I am — which is true, but then again, I have never claimed to be omniscient, omnipotent, or for that matter, an IT professional. But Tommy was there again — at least, for a short time — and so all of a sudden, I was no longer useful to Billzebub, and therefore eligible as an undeserving target for his passive-aggressive behavior and his disdain.

    A short while later, Project Avalon was once again having difficulties with the server, and Billzebub was once again on my case, fuming and urging me to contact their then hosting company. So I did contact them, because the problems with the server were indeed severe. At that point in time, the forum was completely unreachable, to everyone.

    The hosting company then told me that the site was under attack — a DDoS (distributed denial-of-service). I'm not sure anymore how we came across the IP addresses — I think I got them from the hosting company — but I tracked them all down one by one and compared them to our own database over here at The One Truth, because TOT itself had also been DDoS'd once, and given that both forums have (or had) many members in common, there was a theoretical chance that the culprit was a former member.

    And yes, bingo, I caught the guy. One of the IP addresses matched someone who had been banned from TOT years ago for having DDoS'd us, and who had been banned from Project Avalon over untruthfulness regarding his whereabouts only about a week before they too were DDoS'd.

    Still, throughout all of my sleuthing, making screenshots and uploading them to the Project Avalon moderator chatroom on Discord, Bill remained passive-aggressive and resentful with me. And then the next day, he proudly announced both in the mod section of his forum and on the open forum itself that he had identified the culprit and taken measures, just as it was supposedly his sleuthing that exposed former Project Avalon moderator "Gracy May" as having been Fred Steeves in disguise. (No, it wasn't, because he only dug up the evidence of Fred's slip-ups after Marcus "Junk DNA" had snitched on both Reilly and Fred.)

    The bottom line is that his purported respect and friendship for myself as an individual and for The One Truth as a forum were only feigned. They were a ruse for drawing me onboard at Project Avalon because he needed a capable vBulletin administrator, and as was recently shown to me from a log of their mod chat on Discord, for his hope that reeling me in for Project Avalon would have meant — and I quote again — "the death knell for TOT".

    With that in mind, it begs the question whether any of his friendships are actually real and based upon altruistic feelings, genuine interest and sympathy. Because if you can feign friendship the way he has done with myself and with so many others, then who's to say that he'd be even capable of such feelings in the first place? After all, if you look at all of the friendships he entertains, then all of them are geared toward making him feel admired and loved by his audience, and he can turn around on you and bluntly stop communicating with you in the blink of an eye whenever it suits him. To me, that doesn't sound anything like friendship. Instead, it sounds a whole lot more like unadulterated Machiavellianism, and it certainly doesn't reciprocate my own motivations for trying to build that bridge between us over here and ye olde borough on the other side of the inter-forum pond — a pond that has now once again turned into an ocean, thanks to Billzebub's forum-ecological footprint.

    Anyway, his grandiosity also becomes evident in his past-life recounts. He was allegedly a leader or high-ranking military officer in some interplanetary conflict, and an error in judgement on his part caused the population of an entire planet to suffer for a million years, or something like that. Apparently, after so many lifetimes, he still hasn't learned his lesson then. But then again, staying with the woo-woo, one could posit that narcissism isn't so much a neurological condition as it would be a condition of the soul, and that his soul was probably already narcissistic before it incarnated into his current physical body, as well as that if he reincarnates again after this life, then he'll probably still be a manipulative narcissist in his next life too. Because that's just who and what he is.

    You asked me once — albeit in different wording — whether there's any good in him. Well, yes, there is — definitely. But the way he seamlessly and shamelessly switches back and forth between benevolence and outright malevolence without a qualm is what makes him into a sorry excuse for a human being in my eyes. I would even daresay a sociopath.





    There, I've managed to put forum drama and spirituality all into a single post. It should become an interesting thread, attracting lots of views from the other side of that pond ocean.
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    Boy, you really put the boot into poor ol' Bill, Frank...

    I know, he deserves every bit of it, yet every time he pisses me off, my views start to mellow and I start seeing him more sympathetically after a while.

    But, you're right.

    You've perfectly described my ex-GF btw.

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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    Oh, and I'm forgetting the juiciest part of it all, namely that a couple of the witch hunters suggested that, now that "Gracy May" had been perma-banned, nothing would stand in Billzebub's way of changing Gracy's login password in their Admin CP and then logging in as "her" in order to read "her" PMs and see who else might have known that Gracy was actually Fred Steeves in disguise.

    I was there on that members-only thread when it was suggested, and it was undeniably obvious that Billzebub was seriously contemplating that option, just as that, knowing him, I'm also fairly convinced — say by about 85% — that he wouldn't have been able to withstand the temptation, and that he would by now indeed already have done so. I know that Billzebub has been accused of this before, but right now, the option of reading banned members' private messages has at least officially been thrown on the table.
    That would definitely have been his decision, and his decision alone. It's really quite a magic trick that gives the illusion he and the mods are constantly in the boardroom discussing whether this should be done, that should be done, or do we just not do it at all. It's not a democracy by any means, most times it's announced the "we" decided on something, when it's really "I" decided upon something, the only time his mods are really seriously consulted, is voting on new member applications. Beyond that, it's pretty much "this is what we're going to do here", and it's announced as the mod team has decided.

    Welcome to the Grand illusion
    Come on in and see what's happening
    Pay the price, get your tickets for the show

    Any of my old fellow mods there reading this, tell me that's not almost always the case. And this is not to make any mod or admin over there look bad in any way, I still hold them all in fairly high regards except for one, who was just a big brown noser.

    So anyway back to the point. It's hard for me to imagine that "Gracy's" PM's haven't already been rifled through by Bill, thoroughly convinced that I would A) be stupid enough to go around telling people who I really am, and B) that I'd be ever more stupid by doing so on his PM system.

    The way this works is that if he were to find some kind of damning evidence in those PM's, we would have all heard it from high upon his mountain perch that another traitor has been discovered, and summarily executed. The ends would have justified the means of breaking the golden rule. But being that of course there never was anything to be found, other than many friendly conversations, this kind of thing would never be shared because it doesn't fit the sociopath narrative, and the PM's were never even read. It never happened.
    The unexamined life is not worth living.

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    Quote Originally posted by Chris View Post
    Boy, you really put the boot into poor ol' Bill, Frank...

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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
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    I put hello because he will be told of thread and come energies driven to enquire, [...]
    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    Well, Billzebub will definitely be told of this thread, yes, [...]
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    Boy, you really put the boot into poor ol' Bill, Frank...

    Hook, line and sinker...


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    Wait, did purple wizard get banned from PA?

    sigh
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    Quote Originally posted by Catsquotl View Post
    Wait, did purple wizard get banned from PA?

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    Yes, because he was aware of Fred having been "Gracy May". That makes him into "an accomplice", you know?
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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    Yes, because he was aware of Fred having been "Gracy May". That makes him into "an accomplice", you know?
    Now, that sure seems a cult-like behavior.

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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    Yes, because he was aware of Fred having been "Gracy May". That makes him into "an accomplice", you know?
    Ah I see,
    When I got my forum fix last year he told be he was keeping his opinions to himself for a large part because he didn't want to get banned..
    I guess there's just no escaping it from time to time..
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    Question

    By the way, I have two questions for Christian/kryztian, rhetorical as they may be, but given that his account over here was only retired, he can at any time request for it to be reactivated in order to clarify himself. My questions are the following...



    • How much freedom of speech is there at Project Avalon if I am privately being told by common members between both forums that they can't thank any posts about Project Avalon over here at The One Truth for fear of getting banned over there? (In my dictionary, the word "freedom" has an entirely different meaning, but your mileage may vary.)

    • Are you aware of that infamous thread Project Avalon has in its mod room, started by Hervé Gwin Ru somewhere in 2014 and kept up to date until at least 2018, with the names of all the members of Project Avalon who also have an account here at The One Truth, and under what name they are registered here? (It's got lots of screenshots too, by the way — avatars included.)

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    hmm, I've been on and off both forums here and there, never experienced grief for it.
    It wasn't until I had a i'm done with all bs episode a while back that i was asked to take a sabbatical over there.

    Having just now read the Gracy thread.(good work Fred, but why would you have wanted to) I think I may have offended Iota a bit too much. anyhow...
    It's good to see forums still thrive on some good ole fashioned us and them...

    As an aside..
    I have come here independently a few days ago. spontaneously responding to something Fred wrote on another thread here. Unaware of the buildup of more recent visitors popping in due to a renewed interforum drama. sort of proves the point of us hoomans being goaded forward by the signs of the times even when we miss them consciously..
    Have a great day today

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    Quote Originally posted by Catsquotl View Post
    hmm, I've been on and off both forums here and there, never experienced grief for it.
    It wasn't until I had a i'm done with all bs episode a while back that i was asked to take a sabbatical over there.

    Having just now read the Gracy thread.(good work Fred, but why would you have wanted to) I think I may have offended Iota a bit too much. anyhow...
    It doesn't take a whole lot to offend ita, Eelco.

    Quote Originally posted by Catsquotl View Post
    It's good to see forums still thrive on some good ole fashioned us and them...
    Well, I didn't start this thread, but for myself as an individual — no mod hat involved here — it serves two purposes. The first one is entertainment, because I find this whole thing quite amusing actually, in a sideshow sort of way. The second one is so as to speak the truth and show our plaintiffs over there that we practise real transparency and freedom.

    I'm always trying to set an example, you know?
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