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    Pisses me off no end, two beautifullll people and just as Bill makes positive changes, bugger.

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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    Pisses me off no end, two beautifullll people and just as Bill makes positive changes, bugger.
    I agree about the two beautiful people, but what were these positive changes?
    The unexamined life is not worth living.

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    The unexamined life is not worth living.

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    Quote Originally posted by Fred Steeves View Post
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    Looks like an eraser on the end of a pencil
    Ní siocháin go saoirse

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    Well, that was an interesting thread. I think I've visited PA maybe twice in the last year...and briefly. I scan the thread titles and am inclined to back away. I don't dislike anybody there. Well I did, one woman, but she was banned after she called BR a black magician or something to that affect, during the Laughlin conference.

    I am kind of disgusted with the world view and politics of mostly new members. And then some of the old members have 'turned.' Used to be simpatico but they have gradually gone to the right. It makes sense when there is nothing but demonization of the left, progressives, some of which is deserved. But the right get a free pass and or adulation. And Q drove me out of my mind.

    And Bill is, like many, captured by his audience and then a positive ideological feedback occurs and pretty soon, everybody's on the same page. And as consensus reality, represented by all forms of media, has collapsed, there is nothing resembling ultimate authority that most on that forum can turn to. There likely are authoritative sources but it requires time, energy and also a certain amount of mental agility to find them AND understand them.

    As far as pathologies go, most leaders have narcissistic traits, but are not necessarily malignant narcissists. ARagorn, if you have the sense that Bill thoroughly disliked you, but turned on the charm, initially, because you could be of use to him, I can see why you feel burned.

    I've been dealing with fragile narcissism in my own family for years and it's not fun. These people don't just hurt you, they cause emotional scarring. I think I will make it out the other side, but it's tough.

    The worst thing is, people who have fragile egos can't help it. How can they make their own egos stronger? They try through compensation, but ultimately, if they feel unloved or unheard by their primary caregivers, when they are in their formative years, they will not be able to recover, imo. They may be able to change their behavior, to some degree, but will not be able to build that inner strength they need to endure, without external adulation.

    BR hasn't come across to me as a narcissist, but my perspective is limited here, by my limited experience with him. He treated me with kindness. I was infuriated with him a few times, but over some political issue. Can't remember what now. It couldn't have been that important in my life!

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