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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    Really? "Inclusive™" language, anyone? Political Correctness™, anyone?

    Your friends in Team Blue are very comfortable pushing their will onto the people, and just as uncomfortable as Team Red at changing the very fabric of the USA's insular culture. "Can't touch that!"



    After all this time, you still haven't understood a fucking thing about what Wind and I ─ and others, like Fred Steeves and Lord Sidious ─ have been telling you for years. You're still stuck in that "us versus them" thing, where "us" is the American left and "them" is the American right. Because there are no other countries than the USA, and the left is made up of unicorns, saints and angels, while the right is made up of demons, witches and warlocks, right?

    The real "us" is "we, the people of the whole planet", and the real "them" is the political caste, regardless of what color or banner they use. True leftism would be anarchist ─ "anarchy" means "no rulers (archons)".

    Who do you think is responsible for the vaccine Apartheid we're currently seeing over here? Here's a hint: it ain't the right ─ in Austria, yes, but not in Belgium; it's the socialists. And last I checked, Apartheid was an institutionalized discrimination of one population group by another population group. Doesn't sound very left-wing, liberal or democratic to me, nor does forced "inclusiveness" and "political correctness".

    You know, you're just like Aianawa. The only difference is that for him, "Trumpy good, Trumpy beautifullll, pedo Joe and Kam-Kam bad", while for you, Trump is a demon, Alex Jones is a demon, Fox News are demons, and Biden, Harris and Obama are saints and angels.

    Neither of them is a saint, and neither of them is a demon. They're merely idiots and puppets ─ corrupt idiots on the right and equally corrupt career puppets on the left. And nothing really changes, because "Merka is the greatest country on Earth" and brown people are "a threat to National Security™."

    Shall I tell you what the United States of America really is? It's The Land Of Make-Believe™, that's what it is.

    And right now I don't know whether to laugh my ass off or slam my forehead into the wall over the fact that the US government is pointing a finger at Russia and accusing them of weaponizing space, because the Russians shot down one of their defunct satellites with a straight-up missile, while America's got an official Space Force as part of the US military, courtesy of Trump, and not dismantled by Biden, any more than that Obama would have revoked the Patriot Act, as he had promised during his campaign ─ as the matter of fact, he silently reaffirmed it.

    I was under the impression that this was a thread about American insanity, but the more the thread progresses, the more it's becoming clear that it's actually a thread for American insanity. And I'll be happily taking my leave from it, just as with the 159'789 other US-political threads on this forum.

    No wonder this joint is dying.

    Compare the worst of the fascists against the worst of the pedo left... Which is heavier? Demons ... Saints ... Saints are good, Demons need some work ... the light is out there!
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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    Alex Jones is a demon, Fox News are demons, and Biden, Harris and Obama are saints and angels.
    Quote Originally posted by BeastOfBologna View Post
    Which is heavier? Demons ... Saints ... Saints are good, Demons need some work ... the light is out there!
    Sounds familiar?


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgunjm9pJ-s

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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    That's really interesting ... he does a good impression. What is the worst and most common social dysfunction: Projection! The good expect the bad to do good, the bad expect the good to do bad ...
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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    Really? "Inclusive™" language, anyone? Political Correctness™, anyone?

    Your friends in Team Blue are very comfortable pushing their will onto the people, and just as uncomfortable as Team Red at changing the very fabric of the USA's insular culture. "Can't touch that!"



    After all this time, you still haven't understood a fucking thing about what Wind and I ─ and others, like Fred Steeves and Lord Sidious ─ have been telling you for years. You're still stuck in that "us versus them" thing, where "us" is the American left and "them" is the American right. Because there are no other countries than the USA, and the left is made up of unicorns, saints and angels, while the right is made up of demons, witches and warlocks, right?

    The real "us" is "we, the people of the whole planet", and the real "them" is the political caste, regardless of what color or banner they use. True leftism would be anarchist ─ "anarchy" means "no rulers (archons)".

    Who do you think is responsible for the vaccine Apartheid we're currently seeing over here? Here's a hint: it ain't the right ─ in Austria, yes, but not in Belgium; it's the socialists. And last I checked, Apartheid was an institutionalized discrimination of one population group by another population group. Doesn't sound very left-wing, liberal or democratic to me, nor does forced "inclusiveness" and "political correctness".

    You know, you're just like Aianawa. The only difference is that for him, "Trumpy good, Trumpy beautifullll, pedo Joe and Kam-Kam bad", while for you, Trump is a demon, Alex Jones is a demon, Fox News are demons, and Biden, Harris and Obama are saints and angels.

    Neither of them is a saint, and neither of them is a demon. They're merely idiots and puppets ─ corrupt idiots on the right and equally corrupt career puppets on the left. And nothing really changes, because "Merka is the greatest country on Earth" and brown people are "a threat to National Security™."

    Shall I tell you what the United States of America really is? It's The Land Of Make-Believe™, that's what it is.

    And right now I don't know whether to laugh my ass off or slam my forehead into the wall over the fact that the US government is pointing a finger at Russia and accusing them of weaponizing space, because the Russians shot down one of their defunct satellites with a straight-up missile, while America's got an official Space Force as part of the US military, courtesy of Trump, and not dismantled by Biden, any more than that Obama would have revoked the Patriot Act, as he had promised during his campaign ─ as the matter of fact, he silently reaffirmed it.

    I was under the impression that this was a thread about American insanity, but the more the thread progresses, the more it's becoming clear that it's actually a thread for American insanity. And I'll be happily taking my leave from it, just as with the 159'789 other US-political threads on this forum.

    No wonder this joint is dying.
    I dunno Aragorn, I don’t digest fully any of the discourse here, you can be as “indoctrinated” as any. The “global” problem really is bipolar mentality…the “bad idea” that is the core problem to us, and I hate to use the old PA terminology…”Service to others” people—selfishness is ultimately parasitical and hurtling all of us into a shitstorm, whatever political point you wanna focus on at argue.

    Expressing it as “demonic” is easy and makes the most sense, when it’s a slightly more elevated discussion than you’d get on Fox or MSNBC. There is a real “enemy” to life, it’s this idea that so many globally support, this “I will murder you for my freedom to defend capitalism and the shortsighted greed that makes it great”. It’s pumped constantly into the consciousness of most Americans…the “dream” itself has always been “American insanity”, that brain cancer is our greatest export.

    And it’s coming to head. Too many Americans’ love of guns and hatred of non-whites Christians cause enough distractions that those who DON’T love those things have so many obstacles to make any changes for good.

    American insanity is that a binary choice of two parties who’s only purpose is to generate money and get the puppets raising the most re-elected is some kind of great democracy. It’s made more insane when it is clear that both parties have comvonced most people that the only place public funds should spent is our killing machine and “supporting our great economy”. It’s beyond insane…I feel there is infection of “evil”, sorry Aragorn, know your pragmatic side hates the suggestion of that, but there is a clear enemy to life to me, and it’s inherent in a prevailing mentality that dominates much of this country
    What is the purpose of your presence?

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    donk, you said,

    American insanity is that a binary choice of two parties who’s only purpose is to generate money and get the puppets raising the most re-elected is some kind of great democracy. It’s made more insane when it is clear that both parties have comvonced most people that the only place public funds should spent is our killing machine and “supporting our great economy”. It’s beyond insane…I feel there is infection of “evil”, sorry Aragorn, know your pragmatic side hates the suggestion of that, but there is a clear enemy to life to me, and it’s inherent in a prevailing mentality that dominates much of this country
    You're right, imo. There is a kind of evil which does not respect life. It's grown as we continued to sanction evil acts such as torture; turning a blind eye to cops killing folks, even children; tearing kids out of their mom's arms because 'immigration bad'; never-ending Pentagon budgets for weapons it did not ask for; militarization of police who see communities as their enemy or playground for abuse; vigilante justice over abortion; allowing moms to die and leave behind families because 'pro-life'; and on and on and on.

    I believe it's from too much materialism and turning capitalism into a religion. And now Americans have turned Christianity into a money religion. If you have money, God must hold you high no matter your deeds.

    This is backwards, upside-down and inside-out.

    The US is no longer in the old-school two party dynamic. As of about five years ago that has changed drastically. Beau has outlined this very well in his recent and still under ten minute videos.

    We can look at Umberto Eco's work and also that of Lawrence Brit. We're checking all the boxes here in the US. And if we do go full fascist the rest of the world is gonna be in some deep shit.

    It ain't the old both-siderism anymore. One half of the two-party machine fell off the cliff and is pilling the other half off because the rope is still tied.

    And the folks who will pay the price is all the people all over the world. It won't matter at all what 'side' they're on.

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    It ain't the old both-siderism anymore. One half of the two-party machine fell off the cliff and is pilling the other half off because the rope is still tied.
    It's astounding how God's party, the democrats, continue to be powerless even during times when they control the presidency, and both houses of Congress. There's nothing they can do, utterly helpless... Maybe they just need even MORE power!

    Since all clear thinking people the world over are well aware that the America's democrats are the party that's always trying to slash military spending because they hate war, are tirelessly seeking ways to provide health care to all Americans, to root out corruption at all levels of governance, to break up monopolies and put a leash on Wall Street, the time has sadly come to cut that rope the bad party is still being suspended by over the side of that cliff, and save this great nation with a one party rule policy.

    The Satanic republican party needs to be ruled illegal, null and void, and the party of God almighty granted full control to set things straight again. It would go down in the history books as the Second American Revolution. We would have a new set of all wise founding fathers, there would be peace on Earth, all bellies would be full and housed, and bells around the world would be ringing in celebration.

    Maybe Beau could do a video on that. I can't really believe anything until Beau talks to me about it. Beau's the man let's get him on it! Let's cut the foolishness, roll up our sleeves, and get to it.

    Down with both siderism, In with one siderism! One size fits all ROFL, it'll be great. God bless the new America, and God bless the democrats!
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    It can't work ... we all have to be pulling for the same goals...egalitarianism, a sense of 'we' not 'them'. Something that I remarked to the departed Fred at least 5 years ago. One side seems to be capable of feeling that perspective. While the other does not. And as long as that is true the Hegelian Dialectic will keep us locked in a static state. It ain't rocket science to see and appreciate that.
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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    Really? "Inclusive™" language, anyone? Political Correctness™, anyone?

    Your friends in Team Blue are very comfortable pushing their will onto the people, and just as uncomfortable as Team Red at changing the very fabric of the USA's insular culture. "Can't touch that!"



    After all this time, you still haven't understood a fucking thing about what Wind and I ─ and others, like Fred Steeves and Lord Sidious ─ have been telling you for years. You're still stuck in that "us versus them" thing, where "us" is the American left and "them" is the American right. Because there are no other countries than the USA, and the left is made up of unicorns, saints and angels, while the right is made up of demons, witches and warlocks, right?

    The real "us" is "we, the people of the whole planet", and the real "them" is the political caste, regardless of what color or banner they use. True leftism would be anarchist ─ "anarchy" means "no rulers (archons)".

    Who do you think is responsible for the vaccine Apartheid we're currently seeing over here? Here's a hint: it ain't the right ─ in Austria, yes, but not in Belgium; it's the socialists. And last I checked, Apartheid was an institutionalized discrimination of one population group by another population group. Doesn't sound very left-wing, liberal or democratic to me, nor does forced "inclusiveness" and "political correctness".

    You know, you're just like Aianawa. The only difference is that for him, "Trumpy good, Trumpy beautifullll, pedo Joe and Kam-Kam bad", while for you, Trump is a demon, Alex Jones is a demon, Fox News are demons, and Biden, Harris and Obama are saints and angels.

    Neither of them is a saint, and neither of them is a demon. They're merely idiots and puppets ─ corrupt idiots on the right and equally corrupt career puppets on the left. And nothing really changes, because "Merka is the greatest country on Earth" and brown people are "a threat to National Security™."

    Shall I tell you what the United States of America really is? It's The Land Of Make-Believe™, that's what it is.

    And right now I don't know whether to laugh my ass off or slam my forehead into the wall over the fact that the US government is pointing a finger at Russia and accusing them of weaponizing space, because the Russians shot down one of their defunct satellites with a straight-up missile, while America's got an official Space Force as part of the US military, courtesy of Trump, and not dismantled by Biden, any more than that Obama would have revoked the Patriot Act, as he had promised during his campaign ─ as the matter of fact, he silently reaffirmed it.

    I was under the impression that this was a thread about American insanity, but the more the thread progresses, the more it's becoming clear that it's actually a thread for American insanity. And I'll be happily taking my leave from it, just as with the 159'789 other US-political threads on this forum.

    No wonder this joint is dying.
    I just noticed the part about the Space-Force: History and theory suggests a false flag Alien attack. I was thinking about that last week, The U.S. covert operation to take over the rights of the people? I'm more inclined to believe armed with information gathered from a number of sources that Von Braun suspected Russia to launch the false flag. In truth, though neither need be true. The crazies such as myself would strongly consider that none of those ideas are accurate (The Space-Force was an eventuality that was realized with essentially no direction from Trump or any other politician for that matter.) It's the Aliens, folks, it's the Aliens.
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    The Democrats aren't God's party, Fred. Who told you that?

    The Christians went Republican. Reagan turned the South away from the Democrats.

    Religion eschewed politics when I was growing up. But not after my college years when we had the Christian Coalition. That's when Gingrich et al courted and politicized the churches.

    God, Yahweh, or Spaghetti Deity doesn't give a fig about the political parties, imo.

    As far as the remainder of value judgements in your post, Fred, I haven't a clue. I don't even know where that diatribe comes from.

    But have at it, it's a free country.

    For now.

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    The Democrats aren't God's party, Fred. Who told you that?

    The Christians went Republican. Reagan turned the South away from the Democrats.

    Religion eschewed politics when I was growing up. But not after my college years when we had the Christian Coalition. That's when Gingrich et al courted and politicized the churches.

    God, Yahweh, or Spaghetti Deity doesn't give a fig about the political parties, imo.

    As far as the remainder of value judgements in your post, Fred, I haven't a clue. I don't even know where that diatribe comes from.

    But have at it, it's a free country.

    For now.
    I know I have expressed my 'feelings' regarding the left/right split hundreds of times. It's not politics, it's values, it's double-bind mentality, and most of all it's genetics ...
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    Quote Originally posted by Fred Steeves View Post
    It's astounding how God's party, the democrats, continue to be powerless even during times when they control the presidency, and both houses of Congress. There's nothing they can do, utterly helpless... Maybe they just need even MORE power!

    Since all clear thinking people the world over are well aware that the America's democrats are the party that's always trying to slash military spending because they hate war, are tirelessly seeking ways to provide health care to all Americans, to root out corruption at all levels of governance, to break up monopolies and put a leash on Wall Street, the time has sadly come to cut that rope the bad party is still being suspended by over the side of that cliff, and save this great nation with a one party rule policy.

    The Satanic republican party needs to be ruled illegal, null and void, and the party of God almighty granted full control to set things straight again. It would go down in the history books as the Second American Revolution. We would have a new set of all wise founding fathers, there would be peace on Earth, all bellies would be full and housed, and bells around the world would be ringing in celebration.

    Maybe Beau could do a video on that. I can't really believe anything until Beau talks to me about it. Beau's the man let's get him on it! Let's cut the foolishness, roll up our sleeves, and get to it.

    Down with both siderism, In with one siderism! One size fits all ROFL, it'll be great. God bless the new America, and God bless the democrats!
    I don’t agree with this analogy. R’s are just the abusive bullies. D’s are enabling civilians.

    The Republican Globecrushers whooping the hapless Washington Democrats is a show, they are on the same team—their “globetrotter-esque” production plays out on various media very often how you are describing…but that’s just the surface bullshit that is getting tougher to keep up these days.

    This Rittenhouse trial should show that “conservatives” will do and say and protect anything to do what they want…shitting on anyone that has a problem with it. Law and order for thee…not me, says the 2ns amendment lover defending the murderer of 1st amendment demonstrators.

    It really is looking like the selfish side is evil at the heart, and the “opposition” is unable or unwilling to stop the madness. We will chug along and kick the van down the road until every resource (including worker/slaves) are exported to the point we can’t breath, drink or eat anything anymore.

    But if ya vote harder, you might get your favorite neoliberal corporate owned politician in there to say whatever it is you like hearing
    What is the purpose of your presence?

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    Quote Originally posted by donk View Post
    I don’t agree with this analogy. R’s are just the abusive bullies. D’s are enabling civilians.

    The Republican Globecrushers whooping the hapless Washington Democrats is a show, they are on the same team—their “globetrotter-esque” production plays out on various media very often how you are describing…but that’s just the surface bullshit that is getting tougher to keep up these days.

    This Rittenhouse trial should show that “conservatives” will do and say and protect anything to do what they want…shitting on anyone that has a problem with it. Law and order for thee…not me, says the 2ns amendment lover defending the murderer of 1st amendment demonstrators.

    It really is looking like the selfish side is evil at the heart, and the “opposition” is unable or unwilling to stop the madness. We will chug along and kick the van down the road until every resource (including worker/slaves) are exported to the point we can’t breath, drink or eat anything anymore.

    But if ya vote harder, you might get your favorite neoliberal corporate owned politician in there to say whatever it is you like hearing
    Speaking just for myself Donk, I would vote a little less hard for Joe Manchin ...
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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    As far as the remainder of value judgements in your post, Fred, I haven't a clue. I don't even know where that diatribe comes from.
    Well I figured that, but it was rather fun pointing out the absurd by being absurd.

    As I've pointed out before at least BOB is straightforward in his love of one party, and hatred of the other. What does he always say? Something along the lines of the democrats are the party of morals and values, and the republicans would be the polar opposite. The old good vs. evil thing. But you tend to beat around the bush more on that with never ending condemnations of the republicans, it ain't the old both-siderism anymore, and the poor democrats never have the power to do anything about it; implication being that if only team democrat COULD someday get their hands on the levers of power, things would improve markedly.

    That's why I very sarcastically listed some of the changes that would be noticed immediately would be things like the wars would come to a screeching halt, Wall Street would be reigned in, corruption rooted out, monopolies broken up, all bellies happy and full, and there would be dancing in the streets in celebration now that the good guys are in power (which they are right now btw).

    So why not just put the good guys on the throne of benevolent dictators, do away with the evil doers, and get the show on the road before it's too late.

    Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, the Clintons and such have been brimming with these fresh new ideas for decades now, time we free them from their shackles to roll up those proverbial sleeves, and get straight to work on behalf of the little guy like they've been eager beaver to do for so long now, but just haven't had the chance.
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    Quote Originally posted by Fred Steeves View Post
    Well I figured that, but it was rather fun pointing out the absurd by being absurd.

    As I've pointed out before at least BOB is straightforward in his love of one party, and hatred of the other. What does he always say? Something along the lines of the democrats are the party of morals and values, and the republicans would be the polar opposite. The old good vs. evil thing. But you tend to beat around the bush more on that with never ending condemnations of the republicans, it ain't the old both-siderism anymore, and the poor democrats never have the power to do anything about it; implication being that if only team democrat COULD someday get their hands on the levers of power, things would improve markedly.

    That's why I very sarcastically listed some of the changes that would be noticed immediately would be things like the wars would come to a screeching halt, Wall Street would be reigned in, corruption rooted out, monopolies broken up, all bellies happy and full, and there would be dancing in the streets in celebration now that the good guys are in power (which they are right now btw).

    So why not just put the good guys on the throne of benevolent dictators, do away with the evil doers, and get the show on the road before it's too late.

    Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, the Clintons and such have been brimming with these fresh new ideas for decades now, time we free them from their shackles to roll up those proverbial sleeves, and get straight to work on behalf of the little guy like they've been eager beaver to do for so long now, but just haven't had the chance.
    One of the necessary requirements would be to let them have their way, rather than subverting every effort Freddie ... That is what has happened for likely the last 250 years and definitely the last 40.
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    That the world over is experiencing similar silliness = pathetic decisions by their leaders-masters-pollyticians cept a few countries, the divide n conquer is being seen, the left rite divide is being seen, the black white etc being seen, Maxwell trial atm we hear crickets while Rittenhouse is live ???????, people are noticing, people are now asking quiet questions that will get louder, know thyself has never been on Earth so compelling atm.

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