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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    Interesting historical point: When the Nationalist government of Chiang Kai-shek attacked Manchuria to oust the communists and Russians, the U.S. intervened by stopping arms supplies to China. It directly opened the door to Russian-inspired Communism to take over China (1947). Why did the U.S. do this? It is hard to determine because the author is a historian, not a politician or YouTube influencer. But one thing is obvious, The Chinese Nationalist government invaded Manchuria after the Japanese defeat against the wishes of the special advisor from the U.S., General George Marshall. In effect, it seems to me, that because favors were owed to the pre-Cold War Russian ally General Marshall acted this way, it directly ushered in Chinese Communism. Seems truly stupid to me.

    General Patton would not have made the same mistake I don't think...
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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    Jalisco, my homeland!
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    This is relevant...It takes a global consciousness change...A human socio-cultural reframing that might be a throwback to the indigenous way...Arizona while not as well known as Texas might even be by nature uglier.

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    Jalisco, my homeland!
    I've seen the process of 'hiding' the truth by 'authority'. It is an attempt to cover one's failures and it is hopelessly misguided and only accomplishes continued dysfunction. Truth can sometimes be helpful if there is help to be found.
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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    I've seen this scenario up front and personally but not for drugs, but for a next meal and a place to spend the night. In the 1980's to save money (the conservative mantra) Saint Reagan started destroying this country in earnest. He closed managed housing systems intended for the mentally ill. It was a great idea, no?!
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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    Sure as hell was Reagan's work, even my late brother pointed at Reagan for the homeless problem (he was affiliated with Veteran's clubs (bars, in other words) ) I'm not sure if he even knew what he was acceding to when agreeing with me. He got wiser with age, though.
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    An interesting historical fact from China:

    During the cultural revolution of the 50's Maoism became the 'official' state religion. Buddhists and Taoists were killed by the millions (Trumpism may be a viable analog), and Christians did what they are wont to do, they went underground. Apparently, there was no 'Jewish' problem in China. The interesting thing about this was that the persons responsible for the purges, the Red Guard, an essentially student-aged fanatical 'police' force, did not mess with the Islamics because they be 'skeered' of 'em. An interesting perspective on the survivability of 'spirituality'

    Relevant to the day, topical news is talking about the demographic problem in China. Again, during the cultural revolution, Maoism initially stated that population control was a capitalistic/imperialistic plot to undermine the 'power of the people'. After Mao realized that a runaway population would slow the effort to blend limited capitalism into socialism to facilitate Western-like prosperity (industrialization) it became a capital sin to make babies. Forced abortions, checks on females' fertility states, waiting lists to have a child, and worse. Needless to say, there is a problem when leaders are insane in the membrane. An interesting side note, the author claims that it is the only time in history that a national government instituted reproductive rights on such a scale...hmm, ok.
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    Quote Originally posted by Chuckie View Post
    the Red Guard, an essentially student-aged fanatical 'police' force, did not mess with the Islamics because they be 'skeered' of 'em.
    And what is Pooh doing with the Uyghurs in China now?
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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    And what is Pooh doing with the Uyghurs in China now?
    that's a good question...but there are some serious social aspects to consider...Turks essentially interbred with the northern Chinese and I'm sure spread their genes to the south as well. So it is a tossup when push comes to shove who might be more inclined to homicide. It's a balance, whoever is lacking is not headed for a happy ending...that's for sure.
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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    I worked with a fellow Mexican-American who grew up there, he was terrified of the La Migra. I told him how I messed with the border patrol in Las Cruces New Mexico border crossing and he responded like Pancho (Cisco Kid's sidekick). Ooh Ceesco, I getting the heebie jeebies. It was culturally interesting to see his reaction. It's close to a state park where I went canoeing and crossed the border in Eagle Pass. Sidenote: He was paying his mother's power bill 'back there'. She won 250,000 dollars in close by casino. I told my Evangelist boss that God approves of gambling which, of course, he cynically sneered that it was not true. It took him awhile to get rid of me, but he did. It was my second go at NASA, a really weird place!

    Another side note: The real person who played Pancho in the TV series was a P.hD

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    All this is/was caused by Colonialism and elitism south of the border. Foreign raiders coupled with local hoarders, the story is always the same.
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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    Interesting. The one thing that's never addressed, the proverbial elephant in the room IMO, is why are the countries these people are fleeing from so fucked up in the first place? People naturally loves their place of origin, it's not natural to pick up and flee to some strange land, but any of us would do it out of desperation as well.

    I think the vast majority of these people are coming from what empire considers its "back yard". Empire doesn't want competition from anywhere (can you say Russia and China?), much less its "back yard", so most of these countries remain poor and destitute because empire makes, and keeps them that way. It's next to impossible for nations to rise, when they have Uncle Sam's boot planted firmly on their neck.

    It's not dissimilar to the waves of migration that Europe suffers. For example what happened when empire, and its little pet attack poodle NATO, ruined Libya, which at the time Africa's most rich and prosperous nation? A wave of desperate immigrants fleeing their ruined home nation.

    And then in turn, on a deeper level, I'm more and more convinced that empire simultaneously uses these vast herds of desperate immigrants as a weapon, similar to how they learned to use zombie herds as a weapon in "The Walking Dead". But in this case it's causing cultural breakdown for instance, wages for labor are driven down keeping the workers more poor and unable to rise up, also pitting people against each other. Things like that.

    It's really quite insidious when you break it down, and the answer is always to blame the poor desperate people having to uproot their lives and flee the home that they love, and build walls to keep them out. Fucking duh, stop ruining their countries and they'll be quite happy to stay there.
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    Quote Originally posted by Fred Steeves View Post
    Interesting. The one thing that's never addressed, the proverbial elephant in the room IMO, is why are the countries these people are fleeing from so fucked up in the first place? People naturally loves their place of origin, it's not natural to pick up and flee to some strange land, but any of us would do it out of desperation as well.

    I think the vast majority of these people are coming from what empire considers its "back yard". Empire doesn't want competition from anywhere (can you say Russia and China?), much less its "back yard", so most of these countries remain poor and destitute because empire makes, and keeps them that way. It's next to impossible for nations to rise, when they have Uncle Sam's boot planted firmly on their neck.

    It's not dissimilar to the waves of migration that Europe suffers. For example what happened when empire, and its little pet attack poodle NATO, ruined Libya, which at the time Africa's most rich and prosperous nation? A wave of desperate immigrants fleeing their ruined home nation.

    And then in turn, on a deeper level, I'm more and more convinced that empire simultaneously uses these vast herds of desperate immigrants as a weapon, similar to how they learned to use zombie herds as a weapon in "The Walking Dead". But in this case it's causing cultural breakdown for instance, wages for labor are driven down keeping the workers more poor and unable to rise up, also pitting people against each other. Things like that.

    It's really quite insidious when you break it down, and the answer is always to blame the poor desperate people having to uproot their lives and flee the home that they love, and build walls to keep them out. Fucking duh, stop ruining their countries and they'll be quite happy to stay there.
    Reality is though that Clinton's efforts with NAFTA have paid dividends for both Canada and Mexico. Now most immigrants are coming from farther south and farther away. All countries are residues of the era of colonialism and internal greed. Mexico has less and less justification for the cartels, however. Old ways are hard to break and Mexico was politically unstable probably from the 1600's to 1900's as uprisings and revolutions occurred almost daily. Now many of those issues that kept a distinct barrier between the haves and the have-nots, a very high wall to climb (Nyuk!, Nyuk!, Nyuk! get it... hoo hoo), have been resolved. I think the U.S. and Mexico should cooperate and have the both sides of the borders militarized.

    Even Peter Zeihan would agree! (I don't know about the last part)
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    Ziehan isn't bad for demographic takes, but he's a moral and political retard, Chuckie. Plus he's likely a CIA asset and pro Ukraine war. Clinton is a stealth republican, and whether NAFTA helped or hurt us, is a question. It certainly put Canada in a position of being easily raped for natural resources, should all other sources of supply become unwleldy. Like, about now, I'd say.

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    Well, as a civilized country, Canada would not have a favorable view of 'rape' and neither would the rest of the globe, not even China or Russia because they would want to be the ones doing it.

    How ya' doing OG? Good, I hope! Zeihan is another of those hard 'realists'. He's not much for bleeding-heart liberalism.
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