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    Nuland did not orchestrate this coup, so she doesn't like it.

    The face of a war pig.

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    Quote Originally posted by modwiz View Post
    Nuland did not orchestrate this coup, so she doesn't like it.

    The face of a war pig.
    I wonder which is worse: the USA perpetually starting proxy wars, infiltrating and overthrowing democratically elected regimes, and invading sovereign nations, or the rest of the West knowing full well what the USA is doing but turning a blind eye?

    The European Union is a bureaucratic monstrosity, but it had the chance to become a neutral and powerful enough third party between West and East. Instead however, it has become America's bitch, prison-style.
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    There are still a few American policy voices that aren't a national embarassment. Unfortunately, those voices are the ones that are ignored.

    Jeffrey Sachs Interview - Preventing Nuclear War is The first Priority

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    Quote Originally posted by modwiz View Post
    Russia has a doctrine of terror and Putin is evil.

    All the specifics emotionally centered people need.

    The water of emotion cannot support the fire of intellect.
    You know, there's something I've noticed. All the plethora of accusations hurled at "the evil one", are things the West is not only doing, but has been for a very long time. Dating back centuries, just that the US happens to be the grand imperial poobah at this particular juncture.

    It's projection in its most extreme form. And when it comes to what fate awaits "the evil empire", it's no different and here's the latest example from just this morning:

    ...

    The Ukraine War might really break up the Russian Federation


    It’s time to start taking the potential disintegration of Russia seriously.

    A number of analysts see the shattering of the Russian Federation as a possible aftermath of Vladimir Putin’s catastrophic war in Ukraine.

    Although the world would be better off with a much weakened Russia, its fall may not go smoothly.

    The Jamestown Foundation’s Janusz Bugajski would probably agree with this assessment: “as a rump state, under intense international sanctions and shorn of its resource base in Siberia, [Russia] will have severely reduced capabilities to attack neighbors.”

    As a result, “NATO’s eastern front will become more secure; while Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova will regain their occupied territories and petition for European Union and NATO integration without fear of Russia’s reaction.” Moreover, “countries in Central Asia will also feel increasingly liberated.”

    ...
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...dbd0ba7f&ei=10

    Replace "Russian Federation" with the US and NATO, and this piece begins to take on some legitimate form of accuracy.

    Until such point, it far more resembles magickal incantations to supplement this Satanic blood letting, than any form of real journalism that I'm aware of.

    "Off of me and on to you!" chants the dying man in denial...
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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    I wonder which is worse: the USA perpetually starting proxy wars, infiltrating and overthrowing democratically elected regimes, and invading sovereign nations, or the rest of the West knowing full well what the USA is doing but turning a blind eye?
    The rest of the West is the US, how many have had their own hand at running the big machine? It's a shame so few people are aware of periods of time such as "The Scramble for Africa", and China's "Century of Humiliation".

    I mean hell, The Scramble for Africa continues to this day, it's just gone underground along with a whole host of other things that keep the West fat, happy, and firmly in control of every natural resource they can get their grubby greedy fingers on.

    We all have much to answer for, and "the devil" is coming for his due...
    The unexamined life is not worth living.

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    In twelve minutes Jeffrey does a good job of showing how we got to where we are now by refreshing our memory and saying the things that don't get said because they ruin the preferred narrative.

    Jeffrey Sachs Interview - West's Indifference - Ukraine's Fate Hangs in the Balance

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    Quote Originally posted by modwiz View Post
    In twelve minutes Jeffrey does a good job of showing how we got to where we are now by refreshing our memory and saying the things that don't get said because they ruin the preferred narrative.

    Jeffrey Sachs Interview - West's Indifference - Ukraine's Fate Hangs in the Balance

    Jeffrey Sachs is a dependable voice of sanity and reason out there, one of the relative few, and it's always refreshing.

    I'm sure as can be that history will look back on this time, in a similar way it looks back on the whole ridiculous Iraq/Weapons of Mass Destruction hysteria of 20 years ago. Many people today either weren't of age then, or have conveniently forgotten, the price a relative few paid in that time for calling out the obvious lies and deceptions. Scott Ritter, Jessee Ventura and Phil Donahue come to mind off the top of my head.

    Today these brave souls are relentlessly smeared as Putin apologists - then, they were Saddam apologists. It was, and still is, easier and much more socially acceptable to just listen to the dime a dozen Sheriff of Nottingham's of the world. The old "this is why we go to war" - "we fight them there so we don't have to fight them here" type of hyperbole that permeates the Aether whenever the deep state seeks to manufacture consent.

    The "Boogie Man Speech":

    The unexamined life is not worth living.

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    These guys must be highly skilled with shovels...

    We need some further in depth sleuthing on this from our ace journalists here in the West. How is it possible this NATO built and trained army, along with their litany of wonder weapons, can't defeat a bunch of dumb Russians with shovels. This must be military history in the making here.

    (Chuckling) just look at this guy here in the Vice piece, most would never guess how lethal he is with that thing, never mind the AK that's probably out of bullets anyway. Reminds me of the killer rabbit in Monty Python and the Holy Grail:



    March 8, 2023
    Russian Soldiers Are Attacking Ukrainians With Shovels, UK Intelligence Says


    Russia is running out of ammunition, and some of its troops are relying on an iconic 19th century weapon of war.

    ...

    Russian soldiers are attacking fortified positions in Ukraine armed with shovels, according to a new report from the British Ministry of Defense.

    Multiple analysts, and Russian officials, have said that Russia is running low on ammunition which has made it difficult to fight the war in Ukraine, now dragging into its second year. According to the U.K., this ammunition shortage is a direct contributor to the new shovel focused fighting.

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    https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7ej...elligence-says
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    War, what is it good for? Besides compensating for the egos of small evil madmen.



    Another country in the middle of two superpowers and a madman.


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    I like getting scoops from Ziehan. He is pro West and his training as a demographer and military expert gives him some insight into the real nitty gritty. He cuts through most of the propaganda regarding the capabilities of each side. Ukraine is not well positioned at all in any way, compared to Russia, by the looks of this video.


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    Armageddon.

    I wouldn't be surprised if fundamentalist religious types high up in the military try to push some kind of encounter or just angle some kind of encounter towards the Valley of Megiddo, to fulfill their religious beliefs.


    "Megiddo, modern Tel Megiddo, important town of ancient Palestine, overlooking the Plain of Esdraelon (Valley of Jezreel). It lies about 18 miles (29 km) southeast of Haifa in northern Israel"


    https://www.britannica.com/place/Megiddo

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    Quote Originally posted by Octopus Garden View Post
    Armageddon.

    I wouldn't be surprised if fundamentalist religious types high up in the military try to push some kind of encounter or just angle some kind of encounter towards the Valley of Megiddo, to fulfill their religious beliefs.


    "Megiddo, modern Tel Megiddo, important town of ancient Palestine, overlooking the Plain of Esdraelon (Valley of Jezreel). It lies about 18 miles (29 km) southeast of Haifa in northern Israel"


    https://www.britannica.com/place/Megiddo
    I would be surprised if they weren't doing that already.............
    Ní siocháin go saoirse

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    Quote Originally posted by Lord Sidious View Post
    Quote Originally posted by Octopus Garden View Post
    Armageddon.

    I wouldn't be surprised if fundamentalist religious types high up in the military try to push some kind of encounter or just angle some kind of encounter towards the Valley of Megiddo, to fulfill their religious beliefs.


    "Megiddo, modern Tel Megiddo, important town of ancient Palestine, overlooking the Plain of Esdraelon (Valley of Jezreel). It lies about 18 miles (29 km) southeast of Haifa in northern Israel"


    https://www.britannica.com/place/Megiddo
    I would be surprised if they weren't doing that already.............
    I hadn't really thought of that scenario — or at least, not recently — but you could both be right.
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    It does seem quite plausible to me by the looks of it that certain forces are trying to steer us towards a global conflict again.
    "The more I see, the less I know for sure." ~ John Lennon

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    Wisdom of the Ages (Part 2)

    Either you're with us, or you're with the terrorists
    The unexamined life is not worth living.

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