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    Quote Originally posted by Octopus Garden View Post
    I am in complete sympathy with Fred's shoulder pain. I've had severe but fleeting shoulder pain and man does it hurt!
    A good friend, actually my across the street neighbor, both ripped their shoulder out of its socket resulting in surgery for both. It was not a gentle experience.

    My friend worked for the railroad and jumped off of a train and held on too long. My neighbor was drunk and climbing down his boat ladder slipped and his arm jammed in the steps. Super ouch, but I'm sure he was well lubricated when it happened, but didn't have use of the arm for a pretty good while.
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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    I also think it is a sign of bad taste to try and antagonize other forum members — whether it's Fred or anybody else here — out of the blue without any provocation at all. Show some respect.
    Very true.
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    Quote Originally posted by Lord Sidious View Post
    Very true.
    We don't like that shit around here...............
    uh huh

    You either didn't read my response or didn't understand it, I can clarify if you like.
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    Thanks, but no
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    It appears that Putin has been charged with a war crime, by the Hague:
    His deportation of Ukrainian children to Russia. I have to ask if anyone is now surprised why Putin is doing that? Future war fodder... This can't be anymore blatant. What a depraved subhuman.
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    Quote Originally posted by Chuckie View Post
    It appears that Putin has been charged with a war crime, by the Hague:
    His deportation of Ukrainian children to Russia. I have to ask if anyone is now surprised why Putin is doing that? Future war fodder... This can't be anymore blatant. What a depraved subhuman.
    Chuckie, This could very well have happened/be happening. But, it seems timed to ramp up hostility to justify major arms shipments to Ukraine in an environment of intense escalation. It's always about "the children!" Atrocity propaganda about blood libel earned the Jews in Europe intense misery. It suckered people into the Q movement, and on and on.

    That being said, I completely agree it's depraved and cruel if we can trust the information.

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    Quote Originally posted by Octopus Garden View Post
    Chuckie, This could very well have happened/be happening. But, it seems timed to ramp up hostility to justify major arms shipments to Ukraine in an environment of intense escalation. It's always about "the children!" Atrocity propaganda about blood libel earned the Jews in Europe intense misery. It suckered people into the Q movement, and on and on.

    That being said, I completely agree it's depraved and cruel if we can trust the information.
    So true, but do you think the below entity would be so motivated by political machinations?

    Somewhat ironic name:

    The International Court of Justice (ICJ) is the principal judicial organ of the United Nations (UN). It was established in June 1945 by the Charter of the United Nations and began work in April 1946. The seat of the Court is at the Peace Palace in The Hague (Netherlands).
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    Finland is about to join NATO and this happened for the second time today...

    US B-52 bomber flies over Gulf of Finland, turns near Russian island

    "The bomber's flight over the Gulf of Finland was a "clear message" to Russia, said the head of the Finnish Institute of International Affairs.

    A United States Air Force B-52 bomber flew over the Gulf of Finland on Saturday evening, as shown on the aviation tracking site Flightradar24.

    The plane turned back from its route before Gogland, which belongs to Russia. The island, known as Suursaari in Finnish, lies about 40 kilometres from the Finnish coast.



    "Clear message" to Russia

    Mika Aaltola, director of the Finnish Institute of International Affairs, described the bomber flight over the Gulf of Finland as "a clear message" to Russia.

    In a tweet late Saturday, Aaltola noted that "the Gulf of Finland is one of Europe's most strategically important straits, [and one] where Russia has increased its activities, for instance on Suursaari. This is how de facto allies are taken care of and a counter-deterrent message is sent," he wrote.

    Aaltola added that "Russia has increased its provocative activities from Alaska to the Arctic. This is counter-signalling."

    On Thursday, Yle reported that Russia's activities in Gogland have increased since 2014, when Russia attacked the Crimean Peninsula.

    Since the annexation of Crimea, there has been an uptick in exercises involving paratroopers and special forces on Gogland.

    Control of the island has been disputed over the centuries. It was long part of the Kingdom of Sweden, which ruled Finland until 1809, and was part of Finland until World War II.

    The day the Yle report came out, Finnish President Sauli Niinistö was in Washington discussing Finland's stalled Nato membership bid with President Joe Biden and other top officials, including National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan and CIA Director William Burns.

    Last May, several US Air Force planes flew over Finland in an apparent gesture of support, a day after Finland announced plans to join Nato."
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    That's beneficial to Finland given what I'm hearing on an apple podcast with Aaltola as one of the featured speakers?
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    Quote Originally posted by Chuckie View Post
    That's beneficial to Finland given what I'm hearing on an apple podcast with Aaltola as one of the featured speakers?
    What are you hearing there?
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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    What are you hearing there?
    That Russia has been making 'overtures' towards Finnish territory for quite some time...something about disputed territory which ranges from somewhere to the arctic region?

    Wait, that is what you posted, he was saying that the majority of Finns were favorable towards NATO after the Crimean takeover and then forcibly so after his invasion of Ukraine. He cited Ukraine's situation as analogous to Finland and why there is much favorability towards NATO and membership.
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    Quote Originally posted by Chuckie View Post
    That Russia has been making 'overtures' towards Finnish territory for quite some time...something about disputed territory which ranges from somewhere to the arctic region?
    I'm not sure about that.
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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    I'm not sure about that.
    Beyond me, really.
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    These are rather perilous times. USA is going against Russia and China while smaller European countries are used as pawns.
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