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    Prigozhin is a loose cannon shooting off his mouth. Western media is making the most of it.

    Russia haters are moist about it.
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    Sounds wag the doggyish also.

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    Looks like the neocons finally have their basis for the long anticipated color revolution. Here we go.

    And silly me, I thought the drumbeat of the Western propaganda machine was already suffocating and overbearing - well Katie bar the door cos we ain't seen nothin yet!

    Full spectrum immersion dead ahead, this is empire's last crack at divide and conquer of all competition, and they always need to make sure the people are demanding it along the way...

    I think color revolution specialists "National Endowment for Democracy" (NED) have already gotten the boot over there, but how many others of similar design have not only slipped under the radar, and are currently being activated? If/when we start seeing colored flags popping up all over the place out of the blue (pardon the pun), that will be a clue.

    Russia Names U.S. NGO 'Undesirable'

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    The authorities have said the law is necessary to prevent foreign organizations from being used to undermine Russian security.

    In a statement on its website, prosecutors wrote that they have "concluded that [NED] represents a threat to the foundation of constitutional order of the Russian Federation, the defense capability and security of the state."

    They accused NED of using "Russian commercial and nongovernmental organizations" to organize "political actions with the goal of influencing authorities’ decision-making," delegitimizing local elections and "discrediting" the Russian armed forces.
    https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-names.../27157119.html
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    [TWITTER]https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1672572459076206592[/TWITTER]

    Theme music for the Russian "special operation".


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnHmskwqCCQ
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    https://www.marca.com/en/lifestyle/w...22a8b4603.html

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...treasonous-arm

    Sounds like they are fleeing not advancing.

    Actually, it sounds shady as hell. Like someone who encountered something they hadn't quite anticipated and turned tail but had to make up some story no matter how implausible to save face. "We changed our minds once we realized blood would be spilled."

    Well what did you think would happen when you caromed into Russia intent on overthrowing the government?

    They planned all this without ever giving a thought that someone might get hurt?


    Really bad plot with a holes in it.

    For sure Western Journalism.

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    Calling this a coup is like calling NATO a defensive alliance.

    Last edited by modwiz, 24th June 2023 at 21:05.
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    I'd call it Russian theatre or circus.
    "The more I see, the less I know for sure." ~ John Lennon

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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    I'd call it Russian theatre or circus.
    How about Putler Porn?

    Watch out you don't slip in the slop.
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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    I'd call it Russian theatre or circus.
    "War and Peace", the short version.
    = DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR =

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    Quote Originally posted by modwiz View Post
    How about Putler Porn?
    Ooooooooooh, "Putler Porn", here's one that just got added to my personal collection. He'll be going after the Jews.

    This little gem (saving a centerfold for later), from the most reliable source on planet Earth, on what Putler's defeat in Ukraine will entail:

    Chief Rabbi of Ukraine on Russian anti-Semitism – interview

    In an interview with NV Radio, Chief Rabbi of Ukraine Yaakov Dov Bleich argues that Russians may blame their country’s Jewish community for the military defeat in Ukraine.

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    And since we see that there is a dictatorship in Russia now, it seems to me that it is very dangerous for the Russian Jewish community. It is necessary for those who have the opportunity to leave to do so. A lot of Jews have already left Russia. Interestingly, since the beginning of Russia's full-scale war against Ukraine, about 16,000 from Ukraine have left for Israel, while around 65,000 have from Russia. There is a large movement of Jews from Russia who are leaving. Many of them, after receiving an Israeli passport, returned to Russia, as they needed a passport so that one day they could leave. But it seems to me that it is now most dangerous for Jews in Russia, far more so than in Ukraine. And what will happen if Russia now loses the war? Whom will they blame? It seems to me that it would be very easy to say that the Jews were responsible.
    https://english.nv.ua/nation/chief-r...-50334164.html
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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    I'd call it Russian theatre or circus.
    So you think the Wagner invasion was staged by Russia? And then subsequently they pulled out again because it was all part of a Russian stunt?

    To what end though? What's there to gain from a staged coup that wasn't a coup? Unless its an operation to cover up something more strategic? Look here and not there sort of thing

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    Quote Originally posted by Diabolical Boids View Post
    So you think the Wagner invasion was staged by Russia?
    I didn't say that.
    "The more I see, the less I know for sure." ~ John Lennon

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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    I didn't say that.
    Okay...So what did you mean by "I'd call it Russian theatre or circus".

    I'd take your term Russian theater to mean something being 'staged'. You know, ...theater=stage. By Russia.

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    Quote Originally posted by Fred Steeves View Post
    Ooooooooooh, "Putler Porn", here's one that just got added to my personal collection. He'll be going after the Jews.
    https://english.nv.ua/nation/chief-r...-50334164.html

    Here's another one, and it must be true because again, this story comes from one of the most reliable sources on planet Earth.

    Putler, next time consult the weather guy before willy nillie resorting to airborne chemicals:

    Russians drop chemical munitions on Ukraine's Armed Forces, but wind blows toward Russian occupiers


    Valerii Shershen, spokesperson for the Joint Press Centre for the Tavriia front Defence Forces, has said that the Russian invaders dropped chemical ammunition on one of the positions of the Ukraine’s Armed Forces, but the wind was blowing toward the Russians.

    Quote: "We recorded the fact of dropping a prohibited chemical munition with an aerosol-suffocating effect on one of the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

    The wind was [blowing] toward the enemy."

    Details: Shershen did not provide any additional information. He also did not confirm whether there were any victims among Ukraine’s Armed Forces.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...d6753dc4&ei=13
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    Quote Originally posted by Diabolical Boids View Post
    Well yes. We let them reward themselves for not doing their job, not caring, not being a civil servant. A direct vote would end all that but .....they are the ones who get to decide if there is going to be a direct vote.

    With that kind of money at stake, you can be pretty sure people aren't lured in by the prospect of serving others.

    But usually there's some oddball in whatever parliament or Congress, who is for term limits, wage limitations, benefits and perqs limitations or other 'revolutionary' ideas. That is who people should throw their weight behind. Alas they are usually of a less liberal mindset--liberals want to spend more, conservatives do not. Liberals like government expansion that includes perqs, and money. Conservatives historically don't. Here in the US if you want to expand a social network you look to the left, to restrict or conserve something you look to the right.

    So people won't support the 'limiters' preferring to stick with the morally correct party that may be bilking or taking advantage economically by rewarding themselves extravagantly for doing nothing really than profiting and abusing their position than to be seen supporting someone whose social politics they don't agree with.

    Politics is mostly psychological. By our own failure to be a little more broadminded and giving means they have us wrapped up like Christmas present.
    Liberals are more (traditionally)"tax and spend." Conservatives are "borrow and spend." American conservatives have managed to hoodwink republicans for decades with the obvious. Though, for many who vote republican, this is such incredible sleight of hand, they haven't cottoned to it yet.

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