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    Well put, sister. Life is a beautiful mystery to be experienced, but unfortunately the awful things are a part of it too.

    That's just the way it is.
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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    The Creator to my belief and experience represents absolute good and Love.
    I beg to differ on that. There cannot be good without evil, and this in and of itself is a Yin/Yang duality concept. The prime creator consciousness is neither good nor evil ─ they are merely two sides to the same coin, and both sides are valid as learning tools. By consequence, if you believe that everything in existence came into being because of a conscious act ─ with consciousness itself being eternal and timeless ─ then evil must have been created by the very same consciousness that created good. The concept that evil would be the product of some lesser divine entity that was envious of the bigger entity is entirely the product of the Abrahamic religions ─ a purported angel named Lucifer in post-King-James Catholicism, and a Djinni named Iblis in Islam.

    And in that regard, I would like to point at the Book of Job. In said book, Job is put through the most horrible suffering, over and over again, but not by the Satan ─ it was Yahweh who did that, so as to disprove the Satan's claim that people only worshiped Yahweh because he was being good to them. And in said book, "the Satan" is not a name but a title ─ it literally means "the adversary" ─ and he was allegedly a being that resided in Heaven, not in Hell. In other words, he was some sort of accuser in a court, with Yahweh presiding as the judge.

    Furthermore, the Book of Job is an Old Testament book, and the Old Testament holds that angels don't have a personality or soul of their own, but that they are in fact avatars for Yahweh, to signify to the humans who perceived them which specific personality aspect of Yahweh they were encountering. For instance, Gabriel was the messenger, Raphael was the healer, and Azrael ─ not mentioned by name in the Bible, but known by name in other Jewish scriptures ─ was the Angel of Death who killed the firstborns in Egypt.

    The introduction of an evil angel named Lucifer was merely an artifact of the mistranslation of the Bible from Latin and Greek to English under King James. The original letter from Isaiah did not address an angel but the king of Babylon, a mortal man, whom Isiah described in a very sarcastic and over-the-top, allegoric way as having been an "angel" ─ literally meaning "an emissary", and thus a disciple of the early Roman Catholic Church ─ who had "fallen". It was only through John Milton's poem "Paradise Lost" ─ which describes the fall of Adam and Eve and their eviction from the Garden of Eden ─ that Lucifer became described as the first and once-highest of all angels, who had become envious of Yahweh and who wanted humans to worship him instead of worshiping Yahweh. None of that stuff even existed in the canonical Bible before that time.

    The same concept ─ i.e. that the Creator uses both good and evil as it sees fit ─ can also be found in Zoroastrianism. Ahriman is simply Zoroaster in his evil guise. Or Krishna in the Hindu scriptures ─ "Now I have become Death, the destroyer of worlds."
    = DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR =

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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    I beg to differ on that. There cannot be good without evil, and this in and of itself is a Yin/Yang duality concept. The prime creator consciousness is neither good nor evil ─ they are merely two sides to the same coin, and both sides are valid as learning tools. By consequence, if you believe that everything in existence came into being because of a conscious act ─ with consciousness itself being eternal and timeless ─ then evil must have been created by the very same consciousness that created good. The concept that evil would be the product of some lesser divine entity that was envious of the bigger entity is entirely the product of the Abrahamic religions ─ a purported angel named Lucifer in post-King-James Catholicism, and a Djinni named Iblis in Islam.
    I would agree and disagree. It is true that opposites exist and God is beyond good and evil, but it's not just that simple. Evil is the absence of good and it is rebellion against God, it is not that God chose to create that, but evil was born out of arrogance and free will. It is diversion from the truth, love and God.

    This plane of existence is the battleground for good and evil. There are forces of good and then there are forces of those who oppose goodness and love, God. Their end goal is the enslavement and dominance of "others", because they see themselves superior to the Creator. How can that be when God is all that there is?

    "If a thing is free to be good it is also free to be bad. And free will is what has made evil possible. Why, then, did God give them free will? Because free will, though it makes evil possible, is also the only thing that makes possible any love or goodness or joy worth having. A world of automata--of creatures that worked like machines--would hardly be worth creating. The happiness which God designs for His higher creatures is the happiness of being freely, voluntarily united to Him and to each other in an ecstasy of love and delight compared with which the most rapturous love between a man and a woman on this earth is mere milk and water. And for that they must be free."

    ~ C.S. Lewis

    The Law of One material has explained many things rather well, to me it has been quite valuable knowledge.

    The Law of One is one of twelve universal principles according to a basic principle that all is One, that all things that exist are ultimately the same essence within many forms and configurations.

    The book series articulates a non-dualistic philosophy according to which all things both spring from and are one with the source of the universe, termed The One Infinite Creator.

    Within The Law of One, The Creator is not described as an external entity, as Earthly religious texts present in order for men to understand. Instead, The Creator is rather an all-pervasive intelligent energy, that is both within everything that exists and without, thus the indivisible oneness that the philosophy describes. Underlying the perception of separation, utilized for learning, is an indivisible oneness.

    The Law of One states that this universe, one of many, was created by the One Infinite Creator—out of itself—by distorting its energy into the parts of existence called distortions. The process occurred one distortion at a time, in a specific order.

    The first distortion created by the Creator is called Free Will.

    The second is Love.

    And the third is Light.

    All other substance and form come from an interaction of these three distortions. Akin to a hologram or a fractal, each part of the creation is also the whole.

    As Ra uses the word, the distortion of Light can be taken to mean: energy/matter and knowledge/wisdom.

    Ra describes each galaxy as a creation of an intelligence called a Logos. The Logos creates many sub-Logoi, star systems (ie: stars and planets). One sub-Logos would be our Sun, for example. Another would be our planet Earth, another planet Venus, Jupiter and so on and so forth. The sub-Logoi, in turn, create sub-sub-Logoi. Human beings are an example of sub-sub-Logoi. Each Logos, sub-Logos, and sub-sub-Logos is a microcosm of the Creator. The Logos created seven levels of progression for spiritual evolution and Ra has called each of these levels a density.

    Even more importantly, this cosmology is not simply in the realm of lofty speculation – for all intents and purposes, Ra was systematically teaching Dr. Elkins about a whole new form of physics, a new form of understanding the way that the Universe functions, rooted in compassion, harmony, and wisdom.

    Moral choices are discussed through the concept of polarity. Ra explains that there are two polarities: service to self, and service to others. These two polarities approximately relate to the everyday concepts known as light and dark, evil and good, or selfishness and altruism.

    Service to Others is described in terms of an energy center configuration where the green-ray center radiates out toward other beings. This results in compassion, love feelings, and acts of service toward others.
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