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    From Empty Wheel

    October 31:

    Let’s start with the unexpected heroics of the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) which disclosed in a very early Saturday morning court filing that Donald Trump was trying to block release of 750 documents out of 1600 identified and requested by the House’s January 6 commission during its investigation — documents over which Joe Biden as the current president chose not to exert privilege.

    The commission also filed a brief supporting its position that Trump as the former president does not have the authority to claim executive privilege over Trump administration documents sought by the commission.

    You’ve likely read POLITICO’s report — the tl;dr [too long, didn't read] version is Kyle Cheney’s Twitter thread describing NARA’s filing.

    What boggles the mind is how Trump has tipped his hand as to which documents are most damning.

    The cherry on top is NARA’s filing which details Steve Bannon’s role in the seditious conspiracy to incite rebellion and insurrection.
    U.S. National Archives — which has knowledge of content of Trump White House records and which could've chosen many different examples to show specific and relevant information sought by @January6thCmte— notably highlights allegations involving Steve Bannon-Trump.



    Now add the claim reported today in Salon that Michael Flynn may have conspired to extort performance from Pennsylvania GOP elected officials in order to reseat Trump in the White House.

    What’s deeply concerning about this plot is the possible involvement of foreign entities:

    … Because of his intelligence background, Stern claims at least two people representing a Flynn-linked group called “Patriot Caucus” approached him earlier this year after a speech with an offer to hire his firm to gather “dirt” on officials and recruit others to assist in the plot. At one point, one of the men allegedly told Stern that they had retained the services of active intelligence officials “both domestic and foreign.” …
    This sounds very much like something Flynn would do based on his past record of involvement with foreign agents.

    Stern was also encouraged to achieve the ends desired using violence if necessary — “accomplish the mission even if you have to use domestic terrorism” — which he found very disturbing.

    More to come...

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    Today's moral: Never underestimate the enemy.

    There are sources in OSINT, Open Source Intelligence, who are working on finding those who orchestrated the insurrection. In America we have Sedition Hunters, and there is Bellingcat based in the Netherlands (which has been around for a while).

    This comment is from someone likely in the American crew.

    Let me be really blunt about this:

    It was a f***ing brilliant op. Really.

    Trump was only notionally in charge. Bannon was the architect & engineer, or the mastermind as it were, and he should not be underestimated just because he subscribes to quack theories of history.

    Flynn has serious .mil background and was head of DIA for a while, and as with Bannon, just because he believes a huge hunk of horse shit doesn’t mean he can't plan & execute. Manafort has done his share of covert ops overseas.

    Stephen Miller is a soulless sociopath, Eastman a self-interested actor, the two of them having the detachment needed to get beyond ideology to action.

    Never underestimate the enemy.

    These people put together a truly impressive hybrid warfare attack that by all canonical measures should have succeeded.

    That it failed is not a testimony to their own failings.

    It was a testimony to the fact that at the end of the day, a sufficient number of people each did their small part to resist or refuse to play, that the whole thing collapsed, one piece at a time. Even Dan Quayle.

    Arguably even Billy Barr found that treason (by the strict definition) left a bad taste in his mouth, so he resigned rather than ‘go there.’

    The autocoup collapsed slowly enough that each additional component had to be brought into play until all angles were revealed, and at last it came down to attempting to abduct, or facilitate the abduction of, the sitting Vice President.

    So on one hand the institutions held. But on the other hand, we quite literally came within a few words not spoken, a football’s throw of distance, and a minute at most of time, of losing it ALL.

    And we are nowhere near out of the woods yet.


    Is it any wonder that folks want to focus on the trial of Kyle, or the CRT of fairyland, or the Sesames of the Street?

    They got a lot to run away from and sweep under the big fat rug.

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    DT many of the people holding the torch for and executing all manner of nasty thoughts and actions concerning 6-1-20 are also the ones that were yelling loudest regards Russian collusion ( you are aware it was not so and Democrats n putrids ( so both sides lol were lying and actioning the Russian collusion against Trump n co ) ?, why would one believe them this time ?.

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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    DT many of the people holding the torch for and executing all manner of nasty thoughts and actions concerning 6-1-20 are also the ones that were yelling loudest regards Russian collusion ( you are aware it was not so and Democrats n putrids ( so both sides lol were lying and actioning the Russian collusion against Trump n co ) ?, why would one believe them this time ?.
    That's just wrong Aianawa, quite the contrary is the truth ... don't be misled by propagandists and liars.
    “But those who have been under the shadow, who have gone down at last to elemental things, will have a wider charity” - Herbert George Wells -

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    Quote Originally posted by BeastOfBologna View Post
    That's just wrong Aianawa, quite the contrary is the truth ... don't be misled by propagandists and liars.
    Factual, in the court records, minorly displayed in mainstream media, proven beyond question plus now an investigation into the finger pointers ( think n feel Inversion ) because there may be actual Russian collusion from them, funny old world NAPBOB, fact check yourself before or after moiself though, to make sure.

    Ps may have to take a thread or two out of hoax section but also okay with doubly triply fourissyy downing.

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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    DT many of the people holding the torch for and executing all manner of nasty thoughts and actions concerning 6-1-20 are also the ones that were yelling loudest regards Russian collusion ( you are aware it was not so and Democrats n putrids ( so both sides lol were lying and actioning the Russian collusion against Trump n co ) ?, why would one believe them this time ?.
    That's a not-sequitur. The folks who broke into the Capitol, damaged and stole property, shat and pissed in our House, and then were nicely escorted out don't have anything to do with Russia or claims of collusion.

    They have said themselves that it was 'a Revolution', they were 'storming the Capitol' and that their leader, Trump, 'invited them'.

    They were responding to the lies trumpeted by Trump about a stolen election without any evidence.

    60 failed court cases and folks from Trump's own party telling him that there was no evidence of fraud didn't matter to them.

    Republicans don't give a shit. They're still passing laws to make it harder to vote because they've failed to win hearts and minds of the American people.

    They're reduced to lies, grift, gerrymandering and voter suppression.

    It's pathetic and they're weak.

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