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    The phrase "BLM riots" is a catch-phrase/talking point/gaslighting term. The protests were not riots. The looting was largely opportunists. The people who were in crowds inciting violence were not doing so on behalf of BLM.

    That's where people are buying into bullshit.

    Antifa is not BLM. BLM is not Antifa.

    Conflation is a tool of propaganda and authoritarians.

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    Conflation is a tool of propaganda and authoritarians.
    ... And a festering dish gluttonously devoured by the unwashed masses...
    = DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR =

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    Who might want to cause looting and violence during protests?

    One answer is people who want to undermine the protest's message/cause. Several groups may wish that.

    Another answer is people who want to hopefully further anarchy or chaos. Those won't necessarily be the same people as the former.

    Another answer is people who want or need a scapegoat to distract from their own violence.

    These are all likely involved in the violence being blamed on BLM. BLM does not benefit from looting or violence and they don't want it. It's about stopping violence and killing, especially by authorities.

    Something this community should support, eh? Unjustified killing by authorities?

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    Quote Originally posted by donk View Post
    We should be empathetic enough to remove black face from our traditions when non-whites find it offensive. You’re an asshole if you have problem with that. If your “tradition” is that important to you, do it where no one who’d be offended can see it. Nothing can be “canceled” if it is true and valid and harmless and of value.
    I am an asshole, no problem.
    You're last statement is wrong though.
    The world right now is full of examples of cancelled somethings that were once true and harmless and of value.

    Not every soot smeared face resembling work inside chimneys is a black faced person trying to ridicule the black community.
    Assuming that that is the case and therefore taking offense is as shortsighted as racism itself..

    ah wel..
    Have a great day today

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    Hi Cats,

    I suspect that anyone that actually does that is as rare as the leftist conspiracist calling to take over the Capitol building to save the good ol' USofA
    “But those who have been under the shadow, who have gone down at last to elemental things, will have a wider charity” - Herbert George Wells -

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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    Hi Cats,

    I suspect that anyone that actually does that is as rare as the leftist conspiracist calling to take over the Capitol building to save the good ol' USofA
    does what?
    Have a great day today

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    confuse a chimney sweep for a blackfaced anything.
    “But those who have been under the shadow, who have gone down at last to elemental things, will have a wider charity” - Herbert George Wells -

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    Have a great day today

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    Quote Originally posted by donk View Post
    Dem-rep sure offends the fuck out of me, slightly less than you do. No one should get to broadcast lies and propaganda without any consequences. Most “cancel culture” is just disingenuous arguments, asshole victims whining when there’s consequences to them being an asshole.

    We should be empathetic enough to remove black face from our traditions when non-whites find it offensive. You’re an asshole if you have problem with that. If your “tradition” is that important to you, do it where no one who’d be offended can see it. Nothing can be “canceled” if it is true and valid and harmless and of value.



    Christ, you should be a Republican lawyer, clearly your calling.

    People with the ability to, have “canceled” what they wanted for time immemorial, “cancel culture” is just moron right wingers twisting the concept to weaponize it against the actual victims of it—making themselves seem the victim in the process—all the while not calling out those with the power actually “doing it”.
    Oh dear, no desire for you to be offended by defending myself Donk and thankyou as i was shown that cancel culture was all left but you have shown me that it is all right. I will move along dear Donk.

    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    The phrase "BLM riots" is a catch-phrase/talking point/gaslighting term. The protests were not riots. The looting was largely opportunists. The people who were in crowds inciting violence were not doing so on behalf of BLM.

    That's where people are buying into bullshit.

    Antifa is not BLM. BLM is not Antifa.

    Conflation is a tool of propaganda and authoritarians.
    Okay thankyou DT, i see you now desire to separate blm and antifa from each other, shows your now researching imo n sorry if that is an incorrect statement
    Last edited by Aianawa, 11th February 2021 at 04:51.

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    Who might want to cause looting and violence during protests?

    One answer is people who want to undermine the protest's message/cause. Several groups may wish that.

    Another answer is people who want to hopefully further anarchy or chaos. Those won't necessarily be the same people as the former.

    Another answer is people who want or need a scapegoat to distract from their own violence.

    These are all likely involved in the violence being blamed on BLM. BLM does not benefit from looting or violence and they don't want it. It's about stopping violence and killing, especially by authorities.

    Something this community should support, eh? Unjustified killing by authorities?
    You be saying me and our community needs to bend the knee DT ?, TOTally agree with your statement of unjustified killing by your authorities = author of rites

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    Who might want to cause looting and violence during protests?

    One answer is people who want to undermine the protest's message/cause. Several groups may wish that.
    When i was living on Mexico City several years ago, there were tons of protests because of the new government, there were violent groups involved, burning things and causing tons of damage, then videos surfaced that showed these groups were preparing before hand, in side streets, and then once they went into action, the cops would immediately attack the actual real peaceful protesters.

    The way it was that people identified them was, the fake violent protesters had a black band around their wrist, so that cops would see them and avoid hitting them while taking care of the real protesters

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    Mmmm yes that has been documented world wide since the sixties

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    Quote Originally posted by Catsquotl View Post
    Interesting, but the logic is a mite tortured.
    “But those who have been under the shadow, who have gone down at last to elemental things, will have a wider charity” - Herbert George Wells -

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    First things first, I've never seen you as an asshole, Cats.

    Second, please stop trying to tell me what I want, Aianawa. That's a child's tactic. That's what kids do when they want a cookie. It's called manipulation.

    When I wish to give my opinion or desires I will make it clear and you will know. There will be no doubt or grey area.

    It happens here too, Malisa.

    And more and more information is coming out about coordination with certain persons of authority during the insurgence at the Capitol. It's disgusting.

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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    Interesting, but the logic is a mite tortured.
    Yeah. You know it's more about the whole discussion that took place and made way for a cancelling of black Pete to disappear from what was essentially a children's holliday.

    As a child even until my teens I had never considered black Pete as disrespectful to people of color.

    Not until I noticed some people took offence.
    I am still of kind that taking offence where nine is intended is harmful. As it is/was in this whole discussion.
    Have a great day today

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