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    Quote Originally posted by Malisa View Post
    This may be surprising, but the countries where "cancel culture" doesn't exist, are the ones most western countries call "authoritarian" lol
    I believe, and this just my personal belief, that when you said "the world stage" you actually just meant, "the western world"
    I think your belief is correct.
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    Quote Originally posted by Malisa View Post

    As you most likely know, in Russia, we don't suffer foolishness such as this cancel culture thing that has invaded, in fact, measures are taken to prevent it, right from grade school

    Another one that is completely rejected is the "participation trophy" thing, everyone always wins, and second place is as good as first place, no such thing here, that ideology is disturbing...

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    Would you say those authoritarian countries have other ways of canceling people who share a different belief system?
    Either way an open discussion is out of the question.
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    Quote Originally posted by Malisa View Post
    This may be surprising, but the countries where "cancel culture" doesn't exist, are the ones most western countries call "authoritarian" lol

    I believe, and this just my personal belief, that when you said "the world stage" you actually just meant, "the western world"

    Because for example, some couple months or so ago, someone tried to introduce the concept to Russia, at a high level, while trying to "cancel" someone there, let's just say that his "cancelling, got cancelled"

    As you most likely know, in Russia, we don't suffer foolishness such as this cancel culture thing that has invaded, in fact, measures are taken to prevent it, right from grade school

    Another one that is completely rejected is the "participation trophy" thing, everyone always wins, and second place is as good as first place, no such thing here, that ideology is disturbing...

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    I see benefits in the particapation trophy with good balance and thought used, do most Russians know who created the Russian revolution ?, know what i am saying ?.

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    Quote Originally posted by Catsquotl View Post
    Would you say those authoritarian countries have other ways of canceling people who share a different belief system?
    Either way an open discussion is out of the question.
    What is considered authoritarian very much depends on what side is judging

    Real authoritarian systems dont have platforms where people can speak up. Or for example women not allowed to vote or drive, or go to school. And you either believe on the official gobernment and official religion or not, you can chose to not believe and skeap up, but of course there will be consequences after

    Free speech "you are free to say whatever you want to say" be ready to handle the consequences of your words

    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    I see benefits in the particapation trophy with good balance and thought used, do most Russians know who created the Russian revolution ?, know what i am saying ?.
    We do, know, a very basic principle is to not forget the past, that's why

    Most people in the west know about "the red army" but, have they heard at all about "the white army?"

    Russian history is very complex, tons of shades, so to speak

    Very few times in history, really the people have taken control, its always an exchange of power between the people at the very top

    You should look who was behind the white army, and why they were winning so much, they ended up losing... Lol
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    To put it simply, had the white army won that war, we would be hearing daily on the American western media about the evils of capitalism.. lmao!

    Such is the nature of the game

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    Ring cedars book series gave me a wee glance within Russia's past that revolted and enjoyed me.

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    I never participated in the participation trophy thing. I don't know that it's an ideology. It certainly was a bad idea. I think we're moving away from it.

    Cultures try to wipe out whole other cultures. Like when the soldiers shot up the ancient statues. Leaders cancel the very existence of former leaders. Like the Pharaohs.

    Whatever you call it, the idea of getting rid of, or silencing a group of people is nothing new.

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    Imo that it is changing is what is new, re-writing history usually has the future generations finding the truths sooner or later, look at the Tartarian empire for eggysample or the Survivors thread of Elen's.

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    Quote Originally posted by Catsquotl View Post
    Can illusions be cancelled?
    Illusions, perhaps not ... Delusions, decidedly yes.

    Perceptions are a mental trap, the only channel to escape is through shrewd insight, shrewd insight is a hard-earned skill.
    “But those who have been under the shadow, who have gone down at last to elemental things, will have a wider charity” - Herbert George Wells -

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    The thing about trophy's and Russia viewed together generated a thought.

    Community or Individual, which should take precedence?

    In community oriented cultures to distinguish oneself is to be allowed a semblance of self-determination and its byproduct of individual pride. No easy trophy's here.
    In the individual oriented cultures all there is self-determination and its byproduct of dog-eat-dog, the rat race, etc. The losers become dejected, lack self-pride and become a drag on society ... that sucks!

    From a higher moral, ethical, and humanitarian perspective the competitive spirit should be moderated so people are not left bloodied in those mean streets.
    “But those who have been under the shadow, who have gone down at last to elemental things, will have a wider charity” - Herbert George Wells -

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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    From a higher moral, ethical, and humanitarian perspective the competitive spirit should be moderated so people are not left bloodied in those mean streets.
    Which then of course raises the question who exactly should do the moderating?
    The government officials who have a mandate on the use of violence? I.E. the Police?
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    the people, of course. If people could regulate themselves, it would be amazing to see how well society functions. And before you ask ... ... The more power a citizen has the more responsible and self-moderating they should be. As the old saying goes ... "Doo doo rolls downhill"
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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    the people, of course. If people could regulate themselves, it would be amazing to see how well society functions. And before you ask ... ... The more power a citizen has the more responsible and self-moderating they should be. As the old saying goes ... "Doo doo rolls downhill"
    Thank you.. That is music to me ears...
    ABCofAnarchism.pdf
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    interesting, I skimmed it. When the subject of anarchism is broached my position is that no one can claim to be an anarchist, one has to live as an anarchist. It just doesn't feel right to claim because in the act of claiming it delineates one anarchist from another ... I feel that is not in the nature of anarchy.

    But I haven't been in the zone of thinking about anarchy for awhile ...
    “But those who have been under the shadow, who have gone down at last to elemental things, will have a wider charity” - Herbert George Wells -

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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    interesting, I skimmed it. When the subject of anarchism is broached my position is that no one can claim to be an anarchist, one has to live as an anarchist. It just doesn't feel right to claim because in the act of claiming it delineates one anarchist from another ... I feel that is not in the nature of anarchy.

    But I haven't been in the zone of thinking about anarchy for awhile ...
    lol.
    Yeah.
    The great misconception of anarchism.. Nu rules...
    But people seem to forget that living without Rulers, which is what anarchism means.. Rules are sort of needed. Now how to go about at setting them is the great dilemma.
    The above mentions book is one way of getting there... but then again...


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7qT-C-0ajI
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