Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw5oCG4zUOI

"Jan 9, 2021 by Chris Shelton

This week I welcome back Jeff Hawkins for one of the most fun and certainly interesting conversations I've had in a long while about Scientology, David Miscavige and the marketing and expansion of Scientology (or lack thereof). This is a wide-ranging discussion and we tie in some current events as well, which may help give some insight into why this last week was so mad. Enjoy!"