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    This guy is a little hard to follow but you'll understand why if the video is watched until the end.

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    Looks like the four civilian spacenuts had a successful flight. The greatest part of this is that they are making NASA look like a bunch assholes (that they are). This is really taking the "I'm so special" sheen off of them. It's fantastic. What will not be so sweet is when the disasters happen ... they are brave souls, you can't take that away from anyone willing to go up into space with today's technology.
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    Quote Originally posted by BeastOfBologna View Post
    Looks like the four civilian spacenuts had a successful flight. The greatest part of this is that they are making NASA look like a bunch assholes (that they are). This is really taking the "I'm so special" sheen off of them. It's fantastic. What will not be so sweet is when the disasters happen ... they are brave souls, you can't take that away from anyone willing to go up into space with today's technology.
    And above all, they are very rich souls, which they want the world to know about.
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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    And above all, they are very rich souls, which they want the world to know about.
    Not this time Aragorn, A physician's asst cancer survivor, one billionaire, a guy whose friend won a drawing and gave him the ticket, and a gymnast type that applied. A unique group of very ordinary people. It's an amazing step to the future, I think anyway.
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    Must have been quite the ride. I wonder what might be the odds for making it through such a trip without being blown to bits?

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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    Must have been quite the ride. I wonder what might be the odds for making it through such a trip without being blown to bits?
    lol, well that's a pretty straight question Let's just say if it was an airline company they would have zero customers.
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    This video won't have you at the edge of your seat, but is interesting. Anybody can be fooled, but if one was going to believe anyone that the U.S had 'Alien Technology', this would be my guy.

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    Quote Originally posted by BeastOfBologna View Post
    This video won't have you at the edge of your seat, but is interesting. Anybody can be fooled, but if one was going to believe anyone that the U.S had 'Alien Technology', this would be my guy.
    Deep into it, the discussions turns to the possibility of aliens as future humans trying to forestall a nuclear holocaust. According to the guest, Hector Belafonte says what the information suggests is a 'somber' future. (i.e. possibly the end)

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    Quote Originally posted by BeastOfBologna View Post
    This video won't have you at the edge of your seat, but is interesting. Anybody can be fooled, but if one was going to believe anyone that the U.S had 'Alien Technology', this would be my guy.

    Purely pragmatically speaking, there are two possibilities...:


    • The US military does indeed possess either recovered and reverse-engineered alien technology, or independently and secretly developed exotic technology of purely terrestrial origins, and the scientist discussed in the article below is somehow part of a piecemeal disclosure strategy, warming up society for what can somehow ─ e.g. because of sightings, because of political pressure or because of potential near-future deployment on the battlefield ─ not be kept a secret for much longer. This possibility will bear the favor of the so-called "alternative community", and most notably of the tin-foil hat wearers.

    • The US military does not possess any alien technology, but they would certainly be interested in acquiring it, even if only because of its potential in military applications ─ to hell with clean energy, scientific explorations of the cosmos and/or interstellar/intergalactic relationships, ya know? ─ and they think the scientist discussed in the article below is onto something, which is why they're supporting him. Personally, I think this is the most likely scenario.






    Source: Interesting Engineering


    A New Nikola Tesla? Engineer Devises “UFO Patents” for the U.S. Navy

    The government is experimenting with limitless energy and the ability to modify spacetime.





    U.S.Navy fighter jet breaking the sound barrier.


    Theoretical inventions known as the “UFO patents” have been inflaming worldwide curiosity. A product of the American engineer Dr. Salvatore Cezar Pais, the patents were filed during his work for the U.S. Navy and are so ambitious in their scope and imagination that they continue to draw interest despite
    [the absence of, ed.] any clear evidence that they are feasible. The patents include designs for a futuristic hybrid vehicle with a radical propulsion system that would work equally well in the air, underwater, and in space, as well as a compact fusion reactor, a gravitational wave generator, and even a “spacetime modification weapon”. The technology involved could impact reality itself, claims its inventor, whose maverick audacity rivals that of Nikola Tesla.



    The patents

    How real are these ideas? While you can read the patents for yourself, it's evident that the tech necessary to actually create the devices described is beyond our current capabilities. Yet research into many of these fields has gone on for years, which may explain why the Navy expressed an interest. Another likely influence is the fact that the Chinese government seems to be working to develop similar technology.

    One of the most attention-grabbing designs by Dr. Pais is the 2018 patent for a cone-shaped craft of unprecedented range and speed. The amazing vehicle would be able to zoom around with ease both high in the air and deep in the sea. It would travel through air, water, and space by generating a quantum vacuum with an energy field. This vacuum around its body would help it push away any molecules it encounters, regardless of the medium. The craft would also not leave any heat signature, making it virtually undetectable. Controlling the “quantum field fluctuations” in the vacuum would counteract inertia and resistance, resulting in “extreme speeds.” Reducing a craft’s inertial and gravitational mass in this way could be transformational for space travel. It sounds like an enticing design. However, as noted, it’s not something we could actually create with current technologies.




    Craft using an inertial mass reduction device.


    Another futuristic patent with far-reaching ramifications is Pais’ Plasma Compression Fusion Device. It would be relatively small, less than two meters in length, and house fusion reactions generating power in the gigawatt (one billion watts) to terawatt (one trillion watts) range. By comparison, a coal plant or a nuclear reactor generate energy in the one to two-gigawatt range.

    Notes from researchers who worked on vetting Pais’ ideas indicate that a possible outcome of the plasma fusion device and the high energy levels it may generate is the "Spacetime Modification Weapon” (SMW). Research documents refer to it as “a weapon that can make the Hydrogen bomb seem more like a firecracker, in comparison."




    Research notes from Navy’s experiments with Pais’s plasma fusion device.


    Among Pais’s other inventions with military applications is a patent for an electromagnetic field generator. It could create “an impenetrable defensive shield to sea and land as well as space-based military and civilian assets” which would be used against ballistic and cruise missiles that avoid radars and other defenses. The shield would also be a barrier against dangers from space like coronal mass ejections and wayward asteroids.




    Pais’s electromagnetic field generator consists of a shell, an electrostatic generator, a power plant, a thermoelectric generator, and an electric motor.


    Another device that could deflect asteroids is the high-frequency gravitational wave generator conceived by Pais. It would work to intersect generated electromagnetic fields and create waves of gravity. These could be used to propel spaceships to the far reaches of the galaxy, among other uses.



    The Pais Effect

    The fantastical inventions devised by Dr. Pais largely build upon an idea that he calls “The Pais Effect.” In his patent write-ups and in an interview with The Drive, he described it as “the generation of extremely high electromagnetic energy fluxes (and hence high local energy densities) generated by controlled motion of electrically charged matter (from solid to plasma states) subjected to accelerated vibration and/or accelerated spin, via rapid acceleration transients.”

    This effect amounts to the ability to spin electromagnetic fields to contain a fusion reaction. The electromagnetic energy fields would be so powerful that they could “engineer the fabric of our reality at the most fundamental level,” writes Pais.

    In practical terms, this invention could lead to a veritable revolution in propulsion, quantum communications, and create an abundance of cheaply-produced energy. Certainly, an extraordinary claim that requires extraordinary evidence, as posits the Sagan standard.



    The critics

    The assertions by Dr. Pais have drawn a fair share of criticism and incredulity from fellow scientists. The nuclear engineer and researcher Carl Willis, who is also a reactor supervisor at the University of New Mexico, called Dr. Pais’s work, "a classic case of pathological science" that’s heavy on jargon and ”nonsensical statements” while providing little evidence that his ideas, which seem to contradict established physics, can bear fruit.

    Physicist Stephen Webb of the University of Portsmouth in England was equally blunt, saying that, “I find it puzzling frankly that the patents were awarded.“ He called Pais’s ideas a, “wonderful wish list of things that we want,” which, “doesn’t make sense in terms of physics.”

    Dr. Charles Collett, who teaches Physics at Muhlenberg College, did acknowledge that in theory, the Pais Effect may not be “outlandish” but in practice, there are "significant engineering challenges” in fashioning a device that would be able to produce the kind of electromagnetic forces Dr. Pais envisions in his patents.



    The trials

    Despite the well-founded unease at Dr. Pais’s inventions, the Navy took them seriously enough to run experiments for three years and even found some of them “operable”, although the extent of that alleged operability is under debate. In the patent documents, two Navy officials seemed to assert the operability of the inventions.

    Furthermore, in correspondence with The Drive’s “War Zone,” Timothy Boulay of NAWCAD, stated that Pais’s High Energy Electromagnetic Field Generator was, in fact, tested from 2016 until 2019, at a cost of $508,000. The team working on the project consisted of at least 10 technicians and engineers and put in some 1,600 hours of work. But upon the conclusion of the testing, the Pais Effect “could not be proven,” shared Boulay.

    What happened subsequently with the tested device and further investigations is not known at this point. There are indications in documents obtained by The Drive’s WarZone through the Freedom of Information Act that the inventions could be moved to another research department in the Navy or the Air Force, or possibly even to NASA or DARPA, but whether that really happened is not clear.




    Pais's Electromagnetic Field Generator tested by the Navy researchers.



    Who is Dr. Pais?

    As a creator of such potentially pioneering designs, Dr. Pais has understandably drawn scrutiny from internet denizens and skeptical scientists but as he rarely gives interviews (partially due to classified research for the military), he has remained largely enigmatic.

    His author bio in a 2019 concept paper on the Plasma Compression Fusion Device, published by the peer-reviewed engineering journal IEEE Transactions on Plasma Sciences, provides some clues. The paper proposes a compact plasma compression fusion device that seeks to generate tremendous energy through nuclear fusion and describes Dr. Pais as a mechanical and aerospace engineer who currently works for the Navy’s Strategic Systems Programs (SSP) in the Department of Defense in Washington, DC. According to its website, the SSP is “the Nation's premier provider of cost-effective, safe and secure sea-based strategic deterrent systems and related technologies.” It works to develop advanced submarines and weapons for the stated mission “to prevent nuclear war.”




    Photo: Dr. Salvatore Cezar Pais.


    Dr. Pais’s education includes a Ph.D. from Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, Ohio and his prior credentials include work as a NASA Research Fellow, working for the Naval Air Warfare Center Aircraft Division (NAWCAD) in Maryland, and work as a general engineer as well as an advanced concept analyst for Northrop Grumman Aerospace Systems, one of the world’s top companies for next-generation aerospace and defense technologies.

    Dr. Pais, claims the bio, utilizes his “advanced knowledge” in aerodynamics, with particular expertise in designing hypersonic missiles and vehicles. His wide-ranging research interests also extend to electrical engineering, room temperature conductivity, and new quantum technologies with a concentration on laser power generation and high-energy electromagnetic field generation.

    The inventor’s credentials are definitely impressive. Did he come up with devices that not only defy known physics and physicists but will radically change our life through limitless energy and high-speed all-medium vehicles? Time will tell, but in his exchanges with The Drive, Dr. Pais stands by his technological visions and asks the skeptics to “try to keep an open mind in regard to my work.”


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    Interesting, I agree, the Navy has always been in the top seat regarding anything 'UFO/UAP' and intentions are never 'prosocial'. Doesn't the base requirement for a patent STILL require a working prototype, despite a past administration's 'loosening' of patent gaining restrictions due to the system turning away potential world changing technologies that could benefit humanity.
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    Quote Originally posted by BeastOfBologna View Post
    Doesn't the base requirement for a patent STILL require a working prototype, despite a past administration's 'loosening' of patent gaining restrictions due to the system turning away potential world changing technologies that could benefit humanity.
    Well, I'm sure things are different here in Europe, but last I heard, the US Patent Office does not require any working prototype, and therefore anyone can file for a patent on just about everything. That's why there are so many patent trolls out there. The system is now being used against the real innovators by the conservative Powers That Be™ of the business world.

    Microsoft has a longstanding reputation of having patent-trolled, both under their own identity and by way of sock puppets, among which the law firm of Bill Gates' father. Among other things, that's why when Steve Ballmer was still CEO, they were interested in acquiring the UNIX intellectual property portfolio from Novell, hoping that they would have been able to use it in their war against GNU/Linux.

    Of course, things are different now. Gates and Ballmer have already long left the building again, and Microsoft's current CEO Satya Nadella has completely turned the company around on account of their stance toward GNU/Linux. Whereas earlier they wouldn't even openly acknowledge its existence toward their customer base ─ in the form of denying and refusing any and all interoperability ─ while at the same time threatening people with lawsuits via the back-channels, they are now embracing GNU/Linux and even porting some of their software to it.

    But I digress.
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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    Well, I'm sure things are different here in Europe, but last I heard, the US Patent Office does not require any working prototype, and therefore anyone can file for a patent on just about everything. That's why there are so many patent trolls out there. The system is now being used against the real innovators by the conservative Powers That Be™ of the business world.

    Microsoft has a longstanding reputation of having patent-trolled, both under their own identity and by way of sock puppets, among which the law firm of Bill Gates' father. Among other things, that's why when Steve Ballmer was still CEO, they were interested in acquiring the UNIX intellectual property portfolio from Novell, hoping that they would have been able to use it in their war against GNU/Linux.

    Of course, things are different now. Gates and Ballmer have already long left the building again, and Microsoft's current CEO Satya Nadella has completely turned the company around on account of their stance toward GNU/Linux. Whereas earlier they wouldn't even openly acknowledge its existence toward their customer base ─ in the form of denying and refusing any and all interoperability ─ while at the same time threatening people with lawsuits via the back-channels, they are now embracing GNU/Linux and even porting some of their software to it.

    But I digress.
    not really, that was a 'positive' turning point for Microsoft. I originally stayed away from the old Compaq/Hewlett-Packard machines because of their proprietary nature. It disgusted me back then and the legacy lives on even now in the HP world. Everything is so tightly controlled that it takes a rocket scientist to modify their current products. And as always their are those, sometimes with out even being aware of it (long-term brainwashing) that fight tooth-and-nail to preserve it. I worked with IBM as a student and in a team meeting, I made the mistake of voicing what the 'public' thought about them as a company ... I was a guy coming from a life of working at and having the car wash blues and that was my first Big lesson. Big Blue, the biggest, self important, assholes in the industry at the time were not ready to tolerate criticism. At the time they were handing out copies of OS/2 and they wouldn't even give me a copy. It was a happy day for me when that product went to sh*t.

    Then I hit the NASA culture. The same with a British Tonne of political bullshit thrown on top. I actually had a report on me sent to Congress. For a flight simulation test that I had never been trained for. Of course, the report didn't include that tidbit of information. It didn't do me in, but my attitude went from 'Wow, NASA' to what a bunch of idiot f*ckheads.
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    Seems that Bill Gates is quite the jerk and possibly more than that too.

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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    Seems that Bill Gates is quite the jerk and possibly more than that too.
    It was a different era Wind, before open source software hit the scene. I'm still amazed at the reality.
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