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    Proud Boys Spent Weeks Planning the U.S. Capitol Siege; Leader Ethan Nordean Poses a ‘Serious Risk of Flight’: Prosecutors

    Federal prosecutors are asking a judge to hold admitted Proud Boys member Ethan Nordean, also known as “Rufio Panman,” in jail without bond on charges that he played a role in a Jan. 6th siege on the U.S. Capitol Complex. Nordean poses a “serious risk of flight,” prosecutors said in a memorandum in support of pretrial detention filed Friday, Feb. 5.

    “[T]here are no conditions, or combination of conditions, which would ensure Defendant’s presence at trial or the safety of the community if he is released,” prosecutors told a Washington, D.C. federal judge.

    They argued that Nordean’s association with the Proud Boys makes him different from other defendants.

    “Whereas some of these rioters traveled to Washington, D.C., individually, a number of extremist and militia groups coordinated together to gather in Washington, expressing in advance their intent to interfere with the Electoral College certification,” prosecutors said in reference to Joe Biden‘s selection as the nation’s 46th president. “One such extremist group was the Proud Boys.”
    Excerpts are in the article as well as the full text of the court filing.

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    David Duke said years ago, "We have our man in the White House." He and his ilk know whose call they answer to.


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    The trial began yesterday for the second impeachment of Donald Trump.


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    Gosh, before i post a reply and my facts and evidence, feel i have to ask permission.

    Dear mods may i give a differing narrative from the one DT posted of others views, above ?.

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    Matthew Dowd has described some of our problems succinctly:

    "I think one of the things Chris," Matthew Dowd said. "We don't focus on enough is what's behind all this. And what is the original sin of all of this that has led us here? It's not a denial of the school shootings. It's not a denial that Joe Biden won. It's not a denial that 9/11 happened. It's a denial of words in our original document which that self-evident truth that all men are created equal. That's what's led us here. Because we've never dealt with that disease in our country."
    (Dowd worked for Bush-Cheney, Schwarzenegger, and got in trouble for a sexist tweet, FYI)


    For those who don't know, the video posted above is from what was presented in the House yesterday.

    For those who yammered about derangement, this is what it looks like.

    This is what people do when they decide they can make the rules and listen to whomever they choose.

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    Quote from yesterday by Jaime Raskin,

    "President Trump may not have known a lot about the Founders, but they sure knew a lot about him!"

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    I'm pondering the irony of being told by my brother and others that the right wing is a fringe and will 'never take over'. And then it happened with such ease. The same Republicans who said that Trump was a loon and unfit for office turned 180 within a matter of weeks or months. The take-over was pretty swift.

    I'm pondering the irony of being told that right wing groups don't really exist anymore in America, and the KKK hardly is a thing anymore.

    What a joke. A very sad joke.

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    The crowd is chanting 'Fight for Trump!" And folks are trying to say that he didn't incite them. Lordy, lordy, lordy.

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    That's remarkably fstarcked up ...
    “El revolucionario: te meteré la bota en el culo"

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    Yesterday's argument:

    Yesterday, in the Impeachment Trial, on the question of Constitutionality, Schoen argued that the Proud Boy and Oath Keeper arrests show that they had planned to attack on Jan. 6 and therefore there is no instigation. Now, that’s a bullshit argument. In fact, it strengthens the criminality of Trump, because it suggests that Trump is dealing with a group that may or may not act and that he instigated the act. He potentiated it.

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    It’s disgusting how insultingly stupid their arguments were, every Republican that voted against democracy (even our shitty ass two-party fake democracy) should lose their job, maybe be tried. It’s sick that anyone still supports any of them.

    Tired of “winning” yet, assholes? You are the fucking bad guys, trying to let the worst guy not be accountable for the worst thing a “leader” can do. Go to fucking Russia, where the bully actually succeeded, rather than stay here and let Trump or some other nazi make us repeat 1930’s Germany. That genius was embarrassed the first time he tried to take over.
    What is the purpose of your presence?

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    I love the fact ( as is very well shown on this thread atm ) that people will not let Trump go, lol both sides lol , so he will likely return as it appears to be both sides desire , will wish the grumpy ones here luck with their endevour n walk away Quietly

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    Aianawa, The Golden One is currently on trial. And he will not go away until he is cancelled.
    “El revolucionario: te meteré la bota en el culo"

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    Don't you mean Orange one?

    There were about five Republicans who were to wussy to even watch the 15 minute video presented. Rand Paul was channeling his inner five-year-old while he was doodling.

    I guess if being losers is seen as a winning strategy, they should continue.

    Their short-term goal is to acquit Trump. The long-term effect will be the death of the Republican party.

    When folks like Liz Cheney are getting a hard time from Republicans, the party's days are numbered.

    And it's not many digits.

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    Words of wisdom for these days:


    Do not sell the wine of delusion

    There is nothing to be deluded about. If we realise this we are enlightenment itself.

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