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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    Wow n ffs DT, antifa is a terrorist gang officially, are you okay ?.

    Yes lots of idiots and yes antifa was present at the front also.
    No, Antifa was not present at the front. The guy with the bison outfit who had showed up in the vicinity of Antifa demonstrations ─ but not partaking in them ─ is a Qanon follower. He has himself contacted the FBI to explain why they had come to Washington, and he was arrested, together with several others. I've just posted a more detailed report here ─ I bet your right-wing propaganda sources didn't mention that information.

    Also, the FBI is currently investigating your beloved Qanon itself as a source of domestic terrorism, for inciting an insurrection and racism.
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    Yes Aragorn there be two narratives, one being shut down atm, yes was aware of his history, why he has other or better said, the photo's have other antifa members around him or maybe i am being duped, will wait a little longer as info-data is very skewed atm, lol from both narratives, yes you follow mainly one narrative so you will be completely correct Aragorn.

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    Stunning Rasmussen poll shows rising approval of Trump in the wake of the Capitol incursion



    And it may have convinced many Republican politicians that President Trump is now a marginal figure, at best, and should be shunned.

    But unless the Rasmussen polling organization suddenly has become inaccurate after being far more accurate than most presidential polls, the mainstream of conservative American, roughly half the country, isn’t buying it, and Trump's approval has actually risen.

    Here https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/01/stunning_rasmussen_poll_shows_em_rising_approvalem _of_trump_in_the_wake_of_the_capitol_incursion.htm l

    Ooopps looks like not following the rite people n news is creating 1984 energy lol, the above is accurate and not sure if the pollers are left or wrong lol, so be it Aragorn dear soul.

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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    Stunning Rasmussen poll shows rising approval of Trump in the wake of the Capitol incursion



    And it may have convinced many Republican politicians that President Trump is now a marginal figure, at best, and should be shunned.

    But unless the Rasmussen polling organization suddenly has become inaccurate after being far more accurate than most presidential polls, the mainstream of conservative American, roughly half the country, isn’t buying it, and Trump's approval has actually risen.

    Here https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...incursion.html

    Ooopps looks like not following the rite people n news is creating 1984 energy lol, the above is accurate and not sure if the pollers are left or wrong lol, so be it Aragorn dear soul.
    You do know that Hitler and Mussolini were also both quite popular among many of their compatriots in their time, do you?

    Here, let me show you some actual fact-checking by a website that specializes in that. And no, they are not MSM ─ they are a completely independent website, run by a married couple.


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    Two narratives. Like Kelly-Anne saying the White House had alternate facts.

    News flash: Alternate facts are also known as lies, bullshit, and nonsense.

    If folks want to glom onto the bullshit, lies, nonsense narrative, they are free to do so.

    They are not, however, free to force it on the rest of us through their lies, bullshit, violence, and destruction.



    In America we have militias who are armed.

    They train.

    They put out videos.

    They plan to kidnap and kill.

    Not a single one of them is antifa.

    Antifa has no compounds. No training camps. No arsenals. They are unorganized. They really just want anarchy.

    Qanon actually reaches out to them and asks for their help because they also want to get rid of government.


    This is kindergarten level stuff. Not difficult to ascertain or understand.

    I'm not going to fall for the vapid fear-mongering of the right.

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    Rasmussen is always a statistical outlier to the right ... what you posted Aianawa is in complete contradiction to what I've seen.
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    Scaramucci recently talked about Pence finally having his time 'in the barrel' under Trump and how he did not like it at all.

    And Pence should know, "What ye sow, so shall ye reap."
    Last edited by Dreamtimer, 12th January 2021 at 02:39. Reason: don't know how to quote scripture

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    Scaramucci recently talked about Pence finally having his time 'in the barrel' under Trump and how he did not like it at all.

    And Pence should know, "What ye reap, so shall ye sow."
    Um, isn't it "What ye sow, ye shall reap"?
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    It must've been opposite day earlier.



    The text which doesn't show follows:

    The Deep State is real, but it’s not what you think. The Deep State you worry about is mostly made up; a fiction, a lie, a product of active imaginations, grifter manipulations, and the internet. I’m telling you this now because storming the Capitol building has drawn the attention of the real Deep State — the national security bureaucracy — and it’s important you understand what that means.

    You attacked America. Maybe you think it was justified — as a response to a stolen election, or a cabal of child-trafficking pedophiles, or whatever — but it was still a violent attack on the United States. No matter how you describe it, that’s how the real Deep State is going to treat it.

    The impact of that will make everything else feel like a LARP.
    LARPs can become real. And that's when the law of unintended consequences really starts to kick in.

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    More opinion...

    Compare..., for example, riots this past summer. Looting is bad, but it’s a problem for police and insurance companies. Trying to burn down a police station or courthouse is worse, but that too is a law enforcement problem, perhaps one requiring federal assistance. Storming the Capitol, forcefully hindering the execution of U.S. law, and trying to kill top elected officials is a national security problem.

    What you did was on another level, and the reaction will be too.
    [N]ow that QAnon was involved in violent sedition, the national security state is paying attention. Arrests of people caught on camera storming the Capitol have already begun. Prosecutions will follow. Big tech companies — who, while powerful, are weaker than, and have a healthy fear of the government — are now treating QAnon almost like how they treat ISIS. A giant federal apparatus built to fight al Qaeda will shift some capacity to fighting you, especially the white nationalist and anti-government militias in your orbit.

    You cheered on lawyers who said they’d release the Kraken. But now you’ve poked Leviathan.
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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    Um, isn't it "What ye sow, ye shall reap"?
    This was just uploaded an hour ago.


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLFhDN665zs

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    Is good to have all our narratives, be boring if we all agreed the Islam was best and only jelly for puds, you know, like very boring. So here be something old, old news but in these times, only a few days old.

    A Letter from the Nye County Chairman from here > https://nyegop.org/blog-2/?v=7516fd43adaa

    With the publishing of the “Letter from the Chairman” on January 8th what has followed has been nothing short of shocking. After much discussion, we felt it would be wise to post this update to address some concerning assumptions and accusations.

    We have been overwhelmed with responses of support and encouragement from so many across our country and worldwide. Prayers, thanks, and more have been shared. We endeavored to answer calls and emails at the beginning before we truly realized the far reaching aspects of this through social media. If we don’t answer your calls or emails at this point, it is not because we do not care: we just can’t keep up with the flow of exponentially increasing numbers of contacts.
    This was intended to be a letter to our local membership only. A worldwide viral audience was never in view. Members regularly share their views and this was no different.
    Nothing in the letter was original to me. I have no “inside” access to the administration so what was posted was simply a summary of things that are readily available for any willing to do the research which was then provided to the membership for their consideration. As chairman, I have no way to force anyone (nor would I want it) to think in any particular way.
    Nye county has always been Trump country so we don’t see it as out of the ordinary to believe our president when he says he will never give up. We have had four years of incredible growth in the economy, advances in freedoms, and more under the Trump presidency so we find it difficult to believe that the media’s portrayal of him now to be accurate.
    Lin Wood, cited in the letter as a source, called out Pence for treason many days before this letter was published, among many others.
    There was nothing in the letter that included, implied, or supported anything seditious. In fact, as we fielded calls with questions we recommended to people to take care of their families, pray for our country, and connect/serve your neighbors (regardless of political positions). We told nobody to rise up or do anything other than these. We encourage community involvement.
    We would ask the reader to discern, based on the above clarifications, if the letter published is actually any problem at all. Given the widespread closing of accounts in social media, including the unprecedented action of closing the president’s account, we would hold that this letter simply exercises our first amendment right to express a summary of thoughts so our membership could be prepared. If the reader thinks for a moment, when a storm is approaching with the possibility of tornadoes, alerts are given with steps to prepare even if no tornado appears. Is this any different?

    In closing, the letter referenced 1776: the year the Declaration of Independence was signed with the following words included:

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

    Surely, grandfathers told their grandchildren about the unusual events they saw and lived through. We are in unusual days now and so we will be telling our grandchildren about them as well. To the reader we make this request: understand that you, your family, or your neighbor may be feeling hitherto unknown levels of stress in these strange times. Let them know you care, let them know you want to help, and try to uplift spirits that may feel crushed. They may disagree with you but that has never stopped America from serving them truly from the heart.

    May God bless America and our president.

    Chris Zimmerman

    Chairman


    Original letter follows:

    As I write to you today, I have no doubt that this letter will find many of you crushed under the weight of despair or perhaps lost in a maze of confusion. It is my hope that by the time you finish reading this letter you will be able to confidently join millions of others who support the president and another four years.

    Let me be clear: Trump will be president for another four years. Biden will not be president. Yes, I know those are shocking words in these crazy days.

    I have been approached by many saying, “It’s over…” and “Trump conceded the election…”. Nothing of the sort has taken place. Go back and listen to the videos all the way through. At no point does Trump even mention Biden’s name. At no point does he say he concedes. He does say that there will be a peaceful transition to a new administration and he does say that this is only the beginning. Those phrases are important to note. Indeed, we will have a new administration made up of a new vice president and cabinet as the current ones have all made their treason complete. I will touch on this in more detail shortly.

    We do well to remember that for more than four years Donald Trump has been five steps ahead of everyone in every attempt to derail him, impeach him, or confound him. For example, he announced on election night in the early hours of the morning that he “didn’t want a dump of ballots at 4AM.” What happened in just a few short hours at almost exactly 4AM? A huge ballot dump took place which showed that he already knew that it was going to take place. That was a public word to the enemies of our country that he was on to them. Also, consider the recent incident at the capitol building in DC. Trump was late to his speaking engagement and then spoke on a number of rehashed things to the crowd of 500K+ but this created a problem. You see, if Trump had spoken on time and briefly, the MAGA crowd would have been at the capitol building with the Antifa faction and likely would have been drawn into the fray by accident and confusion due to the crowd size. With Trump speaking late and long, the MAGA crowd was PROTECTED and SEPARATED from the Antifa groups. It would be very clear that the disguised Antifa people were 95%+ of the people in the building. Again, Trump countered because he was steps ahead of them. This was clearly a staged event meant to blame Trump supporters and try to frame Trump so the 25th amendment could be used by Congress but it failed. Nevermind the numerous videos showing the police opening the gates for Antifa (they didn’t fight their way in) and then leading them throughout the building.

    I say all this as only two examples out of many that at no point has our president been in a fight of desperation.

    Now you may ask, “Why hasn’t Trump arrested anyone yet? Why did this have to go all the way to Congress?” Multiple reasons: first, Trump has been adamant in following the rule of law and the Constitution. He gives everyone, no matter how dirty, an opportunity to do the right thing (sometimes with warnings such as the phone call with the Georgia Secretary of State recently). He pushed cases through the courts, he presented evidence to the legislatures, and he even told the vice president to do the right thing. But with the betrayal by Pence and Congress, the treason is now complete and nobody can say that Trump did not allow the process to finish before acting. Second, in order to drain the swamp you have to know who are the swamp creatures. They can blend in very well with the crowds. But the false event in the capitol revealed the final traitors for who they were regardless of party affiliation. Trump flushed them out of hiding.

    I need to take a moment to speak on Pence. With his treason completed, many of you may not know of his dealings and political posturing prior to the infamous day in the capitol. Pence was already wheeling and dealing way back during the 2016 election season with…wait for it….Paul Ryan. Remember Ryan? The RINO speaker of the house? Look at these emails that were recently revealed:

    Pence-Ryan Emails

    Pence was also involved with a scheme to oust Trump sometime during his first four years that was orchestrated by Rod Rosenstein and supported by the Clintons. The plan: get rid of Trump, become president and then appoint Rod Rosenstein as the new VP. Why would they want that? Because they felt Pence could be controlled. See these links for the 3 part series for more information:

    Part 1
    Part 2
    Part 3

    More could be said but I don’t want this letter to become more of a book than it already is. Suffice it to say that when Trump said at the DC rally that he hoped Pence would do the right thing, he already knew what he was going to do but was, yet again, giving the man space to choose to do the right thing.

    Now, nobody has been more supportive of Trump than Lin Wood. This man’s career has been fighting defamation lawsuits which means that he doesn’t say things, no matter how outrageous they may seem, without them being true as he knows the consequences of slander. With this in mind, Lin Wood has become a fountain of information and leaks of hitherto unknown information revealing some of the depths of corruption and evil in our highest offices. This is the same man who recently said that arrests are coming over the next few days. He called Pence a traitor well before the counting of the elector votes on the 6th. But did you know that he also said that the president, following the capitol incident, left DC on a “Doomsday” aircraft (used for communications in the event of a nuclear war) with his family and was in Abilene, TX. This aircraft was confirmed by both flight trackers and eyes on the ground. In short, he is a trustworthy source of information. If you have a means to follow Lin Wood on Parler, I would highly recommend that you do so to stay abreast of things taking place. You can also listen to this podcast: Podcast

    So, what comes next? I don’t have the particulars but I can give you milestones to watch for as the coming days unfold:
    Expect the emergency broadcast system to be activated. The FCC just recently released a memorandum speaking to the requirements under Federal law to send messages from the president to the public. See this link
    Expect confusion. We are in a battle for our republic against elites that are attempting the very coup that they are accusing Trump of doing. In battle, there will be disinformation but know that plans are being fulfilled.
    Expect high profile arrests to take place over the next 12 days and at any time. You may wake one morning to find someone in high office is no longer there.
    Expect this to be a bumpy ride to the very end. This is not a television show where things are resolved in 45 minutes.
    Expect more bombshell evidence to be released between now and Jan. 20th.
    Expect some sort of internet blackout or outage: Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and Gmail are likely going to be affected. If you don’t have alternate forms of communication established now, it would be a good idea to start forming them even if it’s just checking on your nextdoor neighbors.
    Expect Trump to be inaugurated on Jan 20th!
    Expect the executive order from 2018 and/or the Insurrection Act to be enacted. This DOES NOT mean martial law. Remember that we have been under a state of emergency since 2018 which gives the president many powers to act.

    These things may happen out of the order listed and some may happen multiple times. As I have been watching closely, many things have been and are in play as we speak. Remember that Trump has not and will not give up. He actually takes his oath of office to defend the Constitution against enemies foreign and domestic very seriously. This is why they are so panicked in DC: they know that Trump will fight while Congress just rolls over.

    I’ve mentioned this before but it bears repeating. None of us would have believed what we all now know except that Trump and his team have painstakingly taken the time to show the public. Want to show what Congress thinks of you? Highlight that the stimulus bill only sent $600 to each American but billions to other countries (payoffs, money laundering). Want to show the extent of collusion with the CCP at all levels of government? Bring multiple lawsuits against the election fraud from the local courts all the way to the Supreme Court which will show just how brazenly treasonous the judges are. Want the public to see how rigged the election system has been for many years? Present the evidence openly as we have seen. Even this week we have sworn testimony out of Italy that the Leonardo defense contractor used satellites to change the votes from our election in the USA from Italy. These Dominion voting machines were actively sending data to Germany, Serbia, China, Iran, and now Rome. This corruption is MUCH bigger than any of us expected but none of us would have believed it until now. This is why things seem to have taken so long.

    Now, the American public is awake and ready to take back their long forgotten responsibilities to hold the elected officials accountable. I have heard from many of you how upset you are with the obvious and willful disregard for the truth and for justice.

    As the days unfold, let’s maintain communications among ourselves and try to help our neighbor to understand what is happening. Turn off the television as they have demonstrated they are clearly only falsifying the media to maintain control over your thinking. Do not despair but pray for our country, for Trump and his supporters, and for a national repentance to be stirred nationwide.

    The next 12 days will be something to tell the grandchildren! It’s 1776 all over again!

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    Rep. Mikie Sherrill, (of New Jersey) during a live webcast Tuesday evening, said she witnessed some members of Congress leading people through the Capitol on Jan. 5 in what she termed a "reconnaissance for the next day" when insurrectionists took part in a deadly siege on the legislative branch.

    After laying out her reasons for seeking Trump's removal, Sherill moved on to those of her congressional colleagues who, she said, "abetted" the president's attempt to overturn the results of the election and undermine democracy by inciting a violent mob.

    "I'm going to see they are held accountable, and if necessary, ensure that they don't serve in Congress," she said, speaking sedately, but severely.

    Sherrill's commentary on her colleagues is below:

    “We can’t have a democracy if members of Congress are actively helping the president overturn the elections results.

    And so not only do I intend to see that the president is removed and never runs for office again and doesn’t have access to classified material, I also intend to see that those members of Congress who abetted him; those members of Congress who had groups coming through the Capitol that I saw on Jan. 5 – a reconnaissance for the next day; those members of Congress that incited this violent crowd; those members of Congress that attempted to help our president undermine our democracy; I'm going to see they are held accountable, and if necessary, ensure that they don't serve in Congress.”
    Sherrill did not specify if the "groups" were Trump supporters nor detail what took place during the "reconnaissance." The term refers to an exploratory mission for the purpose of gaining information.

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    Trump dodged the bullet again. Impeachment: Check; Conviction: Not a chance. Bitch McConnell has already declined to call the Senate back to assembly. The conviction would have to wait until Biden's official assumption of the Presidency. Have we reached bottom as a nation under Trump? No, not yet. There is something seriously seriously wrong with those people!
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    Would you expect anything else from Republicans?

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