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    Quote Originally posted by Lord Sidious View Post
    Vastly different.
    See attached pic for details.
    Thanks, Some say a pic can speak a 1000 words..
    But I understand the difference now.

    I'll keep that in mind..
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    Last edited by Wind, 11th July 2020 at 07:02. Reason: 25 years ago today

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    Quote Originally posted by Lord Sidious View Post
    Vastly different.
    See attached pic for details.
    Truly wonderfully shown. Now you've become a nugget!

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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    Well, actually, Bosnia is a perfect example of not race-based, but religion-based violence.

    For all intents and purposes Bosniaks, Croats and Serbs are the same people, they only really differ from each other in their religion, which has also led to cultural differences over time.

    If anything, Yugoslavia was a perfect example of a lack of genuine or failed nationalism, because the Yugoslavs are more or less the same people in terms of their genetic origin and language, it is their religious, cultural and historical differences that drove them apart and made it impossible to keep the country together.

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    Quote Originally posted by Elen View Post
    Truly wonderfully shown. Now you've become a nugget!
    I don't think so Tim...............

    Quote Originally posted by Chris View Post
    For all intents and purposes Bosniaks, Croats and Serbs are the same people, they only really differ from each other in their religion, which has also led to cultural differences over time.
    I would pay big money to see you say that in Sarajevo, Belgrade and Zagreb............
    Ní siocháin go saoirse

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    Ok so human beings can be differentiated in terms of race, gender, IQ, upper body muscle strength, length of there big toe etc etc.
    My son totally wins in the big toe category.

    Post number 2, beautiful.

    Equity. Yes. I had to look at that equality/equity cartoon way longer than I should have... More coffee will equalize my brain.


    My brother is now telling his daughter that he doesn't think very many people are racist in America. I happen to know that he knows better than that. I'm not sure why he chooses to BS his daughter but what's worse is that he may be trying to BS his own self.

    Denying reality does not change it.

    I feel like Indians are trapping themselves in their karmic circle by still having castes and untouchables. I did not know that the origins of the Roma were the Dalits.

    We certainly have plenty of racism here in America. And I celebrate every mixed couple I see. The more the better.

    The weird thing about racism is that it can have almost nothing to do with race. Like a white person looking at someone as 'white trash'.

    And political prejudices look just like racial ones. Folks who hate other folks because they're from a different part of the political spectrum is much the same dynamic. It's just a different set of name-calling.

    Humans seem to like to divide themselves up into groups. Neighborhoods. Sports teams. Political groups. Tribes of all kinds.

    Does that naturally lead to racism? I don't think so. I think some folks naturally want to be with "people like me", and some folks want to meet people who are new and different.

    Prosperity in a culture and society necessitate, imo, lessening of racism. Folks need to work together to achieve prosperity and racism gets in the way. It's a hindrance to advancement.

    In fact, I believe that less racism would help the environment. Respect for all life would bring true prosperity, imho.


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    Quote Originally posted by Lord Sidious View Post
    I don't think so Tim...............


    I would pay big money to see you say that in Sarajevo, Belgrade and Zagreb............
    That is exactly the issue. Same as Northern Ireland actually. We are talking about essentially the same people divided by religion.

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    I debated whether to post this here or not, in da end it was just easier...I'm sure Chris would approve of my Mexican nature's penchant for taking siestas during the middle of the day ...

    This is a safer copy of my latest DNA test. Notice the Alien DNA portion that I requested (Peruvian) as a joke. Other tests I've taken had no inkling of such but as the lead geneticist conducting the research is Russian, I'm not terribly surprised perhaps even delighted.

    Incidentally, I am a classic product of miscegenation, accepted by no one ... <sniff> <sniff> No not really, it's more like a big lol (So Ise don't be accused of victim mentalation)

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    Hi DT

    "Equity. Yes. I had to look at that equality/equity cartoon way longer than I should have... More coffee will equalize my brain."

    I don't think it is immediately obvious, it is a loaded image with a lot to digest but in the end it says it all really.

    that's a good point about Ireland, but I just wonder if one looked deeper that it would be just a matter of religion...I find that a bit difficult to believe.
    “El revolucionario: te meteré la bota en el culo"

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    Mucho loco, NAP?

    Did you know that because of those DNA tests they've been able to catch serial killers like the Golden State Killer too?

    To me the idea of racism is so ludicrous that I don't even know where to begin. Bodies are our temples and vehicles, but we are not our bodies. I've come to the conclusion that too many people are either too superficial and dumb or both when they draw conclusions about superiority or inferiority based on the pigment of a skin or ethnic profile. I was once an asian, then an arab and now I am a white male.

    Is that what I truly am or am I more than that? Am I what is on the inside, that which is eternal? That which is all of us.

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    I do know about that, which is why I would never post to that open DNA resource...mucho problematico ...

    Good point, you gave me a reason to follow up on my post: Genotype vs. Phenotype. It does point to the silliness of it all. I've been told that I look like anything but a white boy which is true. It is a weird combination of factors that produces my phenotype. My German/Irish/English mother's very curly hair and my Mestizo (Spanish/Indian) father's dark skin. It makes me look like anything the perceiver wishes to perceive. The genesis of Racism is not race, it is the subconscious rejection of 'difference'. To end it, all we have to do is make the subconscious a conscious awareness. But that takes effort and many just don't have the motivation to do it. Perhaps because of mental laziness and a lack of self-awareness (Intrapersonal intelligence).
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    I'm relatively interested in discovering my genetic ancestry, but I don't really trust those DNA companies with my data.

    I think the results could be boring, I might have some German, Irish and Russian ancestors. Hard to say if there would be any suprises.
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    Which is why so many people are surprised ... Not all of them good, trust me on that one.

    I think the companies honor their pledge to not share the DNA without permission. But I really have to doubt it in all honesty.
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    Quote Originally posted by Chris View Post
    That is exactly the issue. Same as Northern Ireland actually. We are talking about essentially the same people divided by religion.
    The prods in the north are ethnic Scots, brought over in the 1600's
    I think that's strike 2, nugg
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    Quote Originally posted by Lord Sidious View Post
    The prods in the north are ethnic Scots, brought over in the 1600's
    I think that's strike 2, nugg
    Yes, I know, exactly my point. Celts are Celts. Scots and Irish only became different people because they settled on different islands originally and ended up following different religions. Any other differences between them are superfluous.

    That is the entire problem with tribalism, people put themselves into these arbitrary categories when actually they have more in common with the supposed enemy than they realise.

    It is a similar story here in central Europe, the only real difference between different nationalities is language and religion, which is important, granted, but not enough to hate people over.

    Another example is Ukrainians vs Russians, there's a stupid feud if there ever was one, they don't even differ from each other in language that much.

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    Quote Originally posted by Chris View Post
    Yes, I know, exactly my point. Celts are Celts. Scots and Irish only became different people because they settled on different islands originally and ended up following different religions. Any other differences between them are superfluous.
    Very often I discover Norwegian words here in Scotland, especially from people who are set in their old ways. I guess the borders were different back then.

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