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    The Great Argus Pheasant display looks just like the bustle of certain Native American dancers.


    I wonder what Jordan would think...

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    The Great Argus Pheasant display looks just like the bustle of certain Native American dancers.


    I wonder what Jordan would think...
    As long as they took personal responsibility for it, he'd probably approve!

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    As far as I could see, they totally did. No rape.

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    Those males are willing to take as much responsibility as they can, especially if their genes continue.

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    This is cool, I noticed something...just for fun... When he was explaining the Danfloss (I think) universe he literally did a tongue-in-cheek thing. I think it was because he felt that he was flattering himself given his suggestion for testing intrapersonal intelligence. A suggestion to solve a problem that the directors had not been able to solve.

    For a long time I wondered why it was stated that linguistic intelligence could be used in a sociopathic way, my pre forum days ... ...it seems only too obvious now.
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    Quote Originally posted by Catsquotl View Post
    That said the current destruction of angry BLM mobs do have me worried.
    I support the idea of reserving space for grief and anger of the "oppressed" black community. At the same time the white privilege and equilitarian speech mandates which may or may not be valid has me questioning my self worth as well.
    This resolves the dilemma for those who understand it -

    The Soul’s First Step

    The soul starts at a single point in a “soulscape.”
    It is empty of experience, a totally empty vessel. The vessel is named “a soul” and at its “birth” it has only one quality, that being that it is individuated.

    Again… no other quality.

    Thus, all souls start out equal - if that term, “equal,” appeals to you, the reader.

    I would say, “All souls start with the same potential.”

    A “lifetime” the emerges as a physical body that exists within a shared reality is one of potentially infinite lifetimes - certainly hundreds if not thousands if not as many as one may wish or as many as might be possible, limited only by infinity.

    Question: How likely is it that at the moment of conception and/or birth… but actually the question is, how likely is it at the moment a particular soul enters that particular physical body vehicle, that that very “soul’s state” (its “soul location” along its “soul journey” with all the baggage accumulated along the way and the attitudes it has developed and possesses)… that that soul at that very moment of insertion is “equal” in every aspect and/or quality to any other incarnate soul?

    The greatest mistake we make on Earth is that we want what is “not equal” to be regarded equally and thus to be perceived the same.

    Equal rights are not the same thing as “all ‘men’ (ie. all women and men) are equal.” The line doesn't say "all men are equal."

    Referring to a well-known phrase -

    The phrase "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal" appears in the second paragraph of the Declaration of Independence, written in 1776.

    Note that the phrase says, “created equal.” When you look at it from the level of soul, and from the perspective that honors the greater framework of many “soul experiences” available for each soul, and you consider the “soul journey,” you can restate the phrase as –

    “All souls are created equal.”

    And now one can see the brilliance of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s perhaps most famous quote - "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”
    All the above is all and only my opinion. It may contain some sharing of components of my current operating strategy and some foundational components of my current world view - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

    It's just a ride

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    Chestor, this soul or quality you talk of, why does it get given/gifted/stamped/forced upon/identified etc as a number when born ?.

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    I wouldn't wish this experience on anyone. There are no shortcuts for suffering. Thanks for posting Wind!

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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    Well, the truth is that the Western civilization is the best we currently have. Yet it's still quite bad or unfinished, corrupt...
    According to whom?
    Westerners?
    Ní siocháin go saoirse

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    I take issues with things like this and I will definitely read or actually listen to the book when it comes out.


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu635BJxBQE


    Jordan Peterson: how the left manufactured a folk devil

    The hysterical response to Peterson’s latest book is totally disconnected from anything he has actually said.

    Over the past few days, Jordan Peterson’s critics have been doing their utmost to publicise his forthcoming book, Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life. The famous clinical psychologist announced the publication on his YouTube channel on Monday, and within hours the book was being widely denounced on social media for its hateful content. This is quite a feat of the collective imagination, given that nobody has read it yet.

    Much of the furore has come about because employees at the Canadian branch of the publisher, Penguin Random House, have called for the book to be cancelled. After multiple complaints were filed, they confronted their management at a meeting in which some burst into tears and shared their stories of how the evil Professor Peterson had caused such emotional havoc in their lives due to his ‘problematic’ opinions. According to a report in Vice, ‘one co-worker discussed how Peterson had radicalised their father and another talked about how publishing the book will negatively affect their non-binary friend’.

    This is just the latest example of a new trend of activist employees threatening to strike for ideological reasons. At the audio-streaming company Spotify, workers recently demanded editorial control of Joe Rogan’s newly acquired podcast series, after they had successfully removed a number of episodes deemed to be controversial. At publishing giant Hachette, employees threatened to walk out after JK Rowling’s children’s book, The Ickabog, was announced. All these internal revolts have failed, presumably because figures such as Rowling, Rogan and Peterson are too popular to cancel. One wonders how a less lucrative artist would fare under such circumstances.

    When I reviewed 12 Rules for Life for spiked (published alongside a counterview by Luke Gittos), I noted that there were two Jordan Petersons. The first ‘a professor of psychology at the University of Toronto with a particular interest in religious and ideological belief systems’, and the second ‘a notorious firebrand of the alt-right… a transphobic provocateur whose lectures amount to little more than hate speech’. As I pointed out, only the first of these two actually exists.

    The viperous attacks on Peterson we have seen on social media over the last few days can only be described as a kind of hysteria. He has been smeared as a ‘Nazi apologist’ and a ‘fascist’ by people whose familiarity with Peterson’s work amounts to a few bad-faith articles and a smattering of selective quotations taken out of context. He has routinely been called ‘far right’, even though the core tenets of the actual far right – a sense of racial or national superiority, support for authoritarianism and the worship of the state – represent the polar opposite of Peterson’s worldview. Many critics have attempted to broaden the traditional definition of the ‘far right’ – incorporating cultural conservatism, a belief in the importance of personal responsibility and an awareness of biological sex differences – so that it can then be applied to Peterson. This is the equivalent of attaching plastic horns to a bulldog so that you can call it a monster.

    True, there are subsidiary features common to the far right: homophobia, sexism and other reactionary viewpoints. But to brand anyone as ‘far right’ on the basis of these things alone – particularly when they are imagined rather than supported by the evidence – is a form of political illiteracy. Peterson’s opposition to feminism is well documented and there are legitimate arguments to be had over the merits of his views. But even if one were convinced that they are tantamount to chauvinism, this would not be sufficient to justify the epithet of ‘far right’. Were that the case, then there would no longer be any distinction to be made between Benny Hill and Hermann Göring.

    The determination to misrepresent Peterson’s ideas is on a par with the frenzy surrounding JK Rowling, whose compassionate and nuanced views on the ways in which gender-critical feminism and trans activism are in conflict have been taken as proof that she is the devil incarnate. This monstering of public figures, based on the flimsiest of evidence, is indicative of a cultural and intellectual malaise that we would be foolish to ignore. There are all sorts of sensible reasons to take issue with Peterson’s opinions, but why has it become so difficult for so many to present a counter-argument without resorting to adolescent catastrophising?

    Consider the words of a junior employee at Penguin Random House. Peterson is apparently ‘an icon of hate speech and transphobia’ and ‘an icon of white supremacy, regardless of the content of his book’. When pushed for further detail, such people invariably claim the power to intuit Peterson’s private feelings, but simply declaring that your ideological opponents are harbouring malevolent intentions is only evidence of your desire that they should. This is why the accusation of ‘dog whistling’ – sending out secret signals that only one’s followers can hear – is so common. As one of his critics put it on Twitter, ‘one thing Peterson does consistently is toss bones and winks to his far-right followers, couched in vague or ambiguous terms that allow him to say that of course he didn’t mean THAT’. It takes an acute kind of narcissism to assume that you are able to divine the secret workings of someone else’s mind simply because you have decided that it must be so.

    It should go without saying that if you believe that books ought to be cancelled simply because you disagree with their contents, a career in publishing is probably not for you. We need to reckon with this new reality of our times: that there exists a substantial proportion of the adult population, educated to university level, who are nonetheless incapable of critical thinking and lack the basic skills of argumentation. Worse still, many of the most vicious comments about Peterson – including mocking him for a benzodiazepine addiction brought on by his wife’s cancer diagnosis – have come from those who believe themselves to be compassionate and virtuous campaigners for justice. If such people really are ‘on the right side of history’, then the future of humanity looks pretty bleak.

    Peterson’s key thesis is that life is unbearable without a sense of purpose, and that this can largely be achieved through personal responsibility and taking charge of one’s life. He believes that civilisations collapse without structure, which is why children ought to be socialised in accordance with the ethical parameters we set for ourselves. He maintains that science and technology have improved our lives, but do not satisfy our need for meaning. This is why his work focuses on the stories that recur in ancient traditions and religious beliefs. There is wisdom in these narratives, he argues, even if their supernatural elements have no basis in reality.

    If you find these views rebarbative, you can always offer a rebuttal or choose not to expose yourself to Peterson’s output. If you need to indulge in straw-man arguments, or convince yourself that he is ‘alt right’ or ‘fascist adjacent’ in order to justify your opposition, then you are in no position to complain if you are not taken seriously. Screaming abuse at those who enjoy Peterson’s writing, or calling for his book to be cancelled, is not the behaviour of a responsible member of a civilised society. If you don’t like his work – either because of its actual contents or what you have simply imagined them to be – then don’t buy his books. Problem solved.

    We need to ask ourselves how we have reached the point where grown adults are willing to accept such wild mischaracterisations of public figures without even attempting to engage with the reality of what they say and think. We need to redress the widespread historical ignorance that dilutes the terms ‘Nazi’ and ‘fascist’ to meaningless slurs. We need to restore critical thinking in our education system to counteract the ongoing degradation of public and political discourse. We need to consider how anyone above the age of 16 believes that throwing insults is an effective form of rebuttal. This isn’t simply about Jordan Peterson; this is about the kind of hysteria he inspires in an infantile society. Something has to change.

    Andrew Doyle is a comedian and spiked columnist. His new book, My First Little Book of Intersectional Activism (written by his alter-ego Titania McGrath), is released this week.

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    you know that Kuklinski did a segment on the new book:

    I think this is his daddy: I didn't exactly mean to get into this that much but Dr. Park Dietz is a professional witness for homicide cases and with over 45 testimonies has never found any reason at all to find a defendant lacking in competency to stand trial:

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    You sure are funny. Seen that interview many years ago, chilling stuff.

    Besides being a cold-blooded killer he was also a known liar so the bodycount he has provided is highly unreliable.

    Many of Kuklinski's admissions about his criminal life have not been corroborated and have long been met with scepticism. His claim to have committed hundreds of murders has been described as "many times more than could ever be substantiated". Paul Smith, a member of the task force which arrested Kuklinski and later a supervisor of the organized crime division of the New Jersey Attorney General's office, said "I checked every one of the murders that Kuklinski said he committed, and not one was true." Dominick Polifrone said "I don’t believe he killed 200 people. I don’t believe he killed 100 people. I’ll go as high as 15, maybe." Kuklinski biographer Anthony Bruno described him as a "part-time liar" and acknowledged that “many of his stories didn't pass the smell test”. During one of their conversations, Bruno joked: "Richard, I have a feeling if I listen to you long enough, you'll tell me you shot President Lincoln." Kuklinski laughed and said "Yeah. You're probably right."

    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo2uVWfODYM



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    yeah, I was just watching, I think he was lying about the cats...I remember people saying that when I was just a kid ... I'm not sure it would even be possible.
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    Jordan Peterson has lost his mind. He describes the climate crisis as propaganda perpetuated by those who want to impose a totalitarian state. Trudeau is merely an actor promoting a false crisis.

    And though, this may seem kind of harmless it's actually a dangerous idea when its coming from someone who is angling more and more towards the hard right and 'Christianity.' He is preparing to run for office in Canada. He doesn't stand a chance, not this time around. But God help us, if he ever is in a position to do any real damage. He's from Alberta and is pro-Big Oil. I find his political stances, with regards large corporations, almost unfathomable.

    He makes me wince.


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