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    It's good to have your perspective, Chris. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally posted by Chris View Post
    Yes, both come at it from a specifically Christian viewpoint
    Actually, Leo Zagami is a Muslim.
    = DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR =

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    Huh?

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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
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    Quote Originally posted by Chris View Post
    Yes, both come at it from a specifically Christian viewpoint
    Actually, Leo Zagami is a Muslim.
    Huh?
    Yes, I know it's confusing. But he explicitly said so, in an interview with Project Camelot, back when Bill and Kerry were still working together. He comes from a Catholic background, but he has converted to Islam.
    = DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR =

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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    Yes, I know it's confusing. But he explicitly said so, in an interview with Project Camelot, back when Bill and Kerry were still working together. He comes from a Catholic background, but he has converted to Islam.
    I guess it makes sense, if what he says about the Vatican is true. I think Oliver Stone's son also converted to Islam for similar reasons.

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    I'm not sure if I'd say that makes much sense. Then again, maybe I just happen to have a problem with institutionalized religions.

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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    I'm not sure if I'd say that makes much sense. Then again, maybe I just happen to have a problem with institutionalized religions.
    I don't know that much about the Islamic perspective, but I know that many of those who follow the Orthodox or in some cases the Protestant faith, honestly believe that the Pope is literally the Antichrist and the Jesuits are basically Satan's footsoldiers on earth. Now, I think that is an exaggeration, but I can see why somebody would see the Vatican power structure as deeply sinister.

    There is also a widespread belief in the Islamic world that the West is basically Satanic, which is why they call The USA and Israel the Great Satan and Little Satan respectively. If somebody truly believes that all the hallmarks of the modern world, the materialism, the alienation, the promotion of homosexuality, promiscuity, pornography, abortion, etc... are evil and the work of the devil, then Islam suddenly becomes the most attractive monotheistic faith, given that most Christian denominations are now extremely lenient in this respect.

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    Quote Originally posted by Chris View Post
    There is also a widespread belief in the Islamic world that the West is basically Satanic, which is why they call The USA and Israel the Great Satan and Little Satan respectively.
    Or in the Christian Apocalyptic version, Gog and Magog.
    = DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR =

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    I had a Catholic friend who wanted to marry a muslim and convert. I do not know if she was successful. At first it seemed weird to me but then I realized that Catholicism is a 'way of life' in much the same way that Islam is a 'way of life'. And I've also encountered Christians who converted to Orthodox Judaism for similar reasons. They wanted to follow the strictures of the Old Testament, and decided the Torah was a better version, being earlier and more 'original'.

    When I learned about Islam in simple terms of its basic foundational beliefs I thought I could be a good muslim. Once I learned how it is practically applied in life I realized that I could not bear the burdens that muslim cultures lay on people. I could not treat fatwas as the word of god, and that is expected in much of the muslim world.

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    This is the important fact which many ultra religious people tend to miss and as such can't see the truth.

    Last edited by Wind, 5th May 2020 at 17:35.

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    A navy seal named Jack Carr who was just on Rogan's podcast spoke about personal inspiration that came from Joseph Campbell's work.

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    A navy seal named Jack Carr who was just on Rogan's podcast spoke about personal inspiration that came from Joseph Campbell's work.
    He's inspired many, there might not be Star Wars without his teachings either.

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    Holy Sheeiitt. Christianity is where it is at. For now...There will be something in the future more enlightened and revelatory. Just off the top of my bean...the lessons taught us by Christianity, should at some point become 2nd nature for humanity...at that point we will be in store for something more? I think we have hints of what that will be given to us by none other than science (scientific awareness). Sometimes Science has as bad a connotation as does Religion.
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    Quote Originally posted by NotAPretender View Post
    I think we have hints of what that will be given to us by none other than science (scientific awareness).
    Indeed it shall, science in it's true meaning when it's set free instead of being this dogmatic materialist reductionist belief system which is called "science" in the status quo.

    "Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Heres Tom with the Weather."

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    I really like how a thread with end times in the title has come to contain messages of hope and positivity.

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