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    Take a break from TDS! Get educated...


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    Once again i know your not joking about the emails, as incredible as that is, all ends amazingly DT, god wins.

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    The evidence is there. No need for jokes. No need to make stuff up. Plenty of need for open minds.

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    I didn't watch any of the videos but I know the truth. Fauci did not lie. The facts about Covid have always been nebulous. What he did was his best in the face of the demon and tried to save lives, a.k.a. loved ones. Why is that even a debated point? Trump has gone beyond the question of truth and lies, to the question of sanity versus dreamland.

    As Dark Helmut said, we've gone way past light speed, we're at ludicrous speed now. This is not a matter of perspective! Flatly speaking, this is not a rational discussion. What is the name of this thread again?
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    What is this all about...REALLY?!
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    UC Berkeley History Professor’s Open Letter Against BLM, Police Brutality and Cultural Orthodoxy

    Anonymous Berkeley Professor Shreds BLM Injustice Narrative

    By Katy Grimes, June 14, 2020 8:05 am

    An anonymous professor of history at U.C. Berkeley wrote open letter to colleagues lambasting the current narratives of “racial injustice” and “institutional racism” claimed by the BLM movement, and ongoing protests over the death of George Floyd.

    Zero hedge reports, “Its authenticity was confirmed by Kentucky State University Assistant Professor of Political Science, Wilfred Reilley, who says he was sent a copy of the letter along with Stanford University economist Thomas Sowell.”

    https://twitter.com/wil_da_beast630/...l-orthodoxy%2F

    Dear profs X, Y, Z

    I am one of your colleagues at the University of California, Berkeley. I have met you both personally but do not know you closely, and am contacting you anonymously, with apologies. I am worried that writing this email publicly might lead to me losing my job, and likely all future jobs in my field.

    In your recent departmental emails you mentioned our pledge to diversity, but I am increasingly alarmed by the absence of diversity of opinion on the topic of the recent protests and our community response to them.

    In the extended links and resources you provided, I could not find a single instance of substantial counter-argument or alternative narrative to explain the under-representation of black individuals in academia or their over-representation in the criminal justice system. The explanation provided in your documentation, to the near exclusion of all others, is univariate: the problems of the black community are caused by whites, or, when whites are not physically present, by the infiltration of white supremacy and white systemic racism into American brains, souls, and institutions.

    Many cogent objections to this thesis have been raised by sober voices, including from within the black community itself, such as Thomas Sowell and Wilfred Reilly. These people are not racists or ‘Uncle Toms’. They are intelligent scholars who reject a narrative that strips black people of agency and systematically externalizes the problems of the black community onto outsiders. Their view is entirely absent from the departmental and UCB-wide communiques.

    The claim that the difficulties that the black community faces are entirely causally explained by exogenous factors in the form of white systemic racism, white supremacy, and other forms of white discrimination remains a problematic hypothesis that should be vigorously challenged by historians. Instead, it is being treated as an axiomatic and actionable truth without serious consideration of its profound flaws, or its worrying implication of total black impotence. This hypothesis is transforming our institution and our culture, without any space for dissent outside of a tightly policed, narrow discourse.

    A counternarrative exists. If you have time, please consider examining some of the documents I attach at the end of this email. Overwhelmingly, the reasoning provided by BLM and allies is either primarily anecdotal (as in the case with the bulk of Ta-Nehisi Coates’ undeniably moving article) or it is transparently motivated. As an example of the latter problem, consider the proportion of black incarcerated Americans. This proportion is often used to characterize the criminal justice system as anti-black. However, if we use the precise same methodology, we would have to conclude that the criminal justice system is even more anti-male than it is anti-black.

    Would we characterize criminal justice as a systemically misandrist conspiracy against innocent American men? I hope you see that this type of reasoning is flawed, and requires a significant suspension of our rational faculties. Black people are not incarcerated at higher rates than their involvement in violent crime would predict. This fact has been demonstrated multiple times across multiple jurisdictions in multiple countries.

    And yet, I see my department uncritically reproducing a narrative that diminishes black agency in favor of a white-centric explanation that appeals to the department’s apparent desire to shoulder the ‘white man’s burden’ and to promote a narrative of white guilt.

    If we claim that the criminal justice system is white-supremacist, why is it that Asian Americans, Indian Americans, and Nigerian Americans are incarcerated at vastly lower rates than white Americans? This is a funny sort of white supremacy. Even Jewish Americans are incarcerated less than gentile whites. I think it’s fair to say that your average white supremacist disapproves of Jews. And yet, these alleged white supremacists incarcerate gentiles at vastly higher rates than Jews. None of this is addressed in your literature. None of this is explained, beyond hand-waving and ad hominems. “Those are racist dogwhistles”. “The model minority myth is white supremacist”. “Only fascists talk about black-on-black crime”, ad nauseam.

    These types of statements do not amount to counterarguments: they are simply arbitrary offensive classifications, intended to silence and oppress discourse. Any serious historian will recognize these for the silencing orthodoxy tactics they are, common to suppressive regimes, doctrines, and religions throughout time and space. They are intended to crush real diversity and permanently exile the culture of robust criticism from our department.

    Increasingly, we are being called upon to comply and subscribe to BLM’s problematic view of history, and the department is being presented as unified on the matter. In particular, ethnic minorities are being aggressively marshaled into a single position. Any apparent unity is surely a function of the fact that dissent could almost certainly lead to expulsion or cancellation for those of us in a precarious position, which is no small number.

    I personally don’t dare speak out against the BLM narrative, and with this barrage of alleged unity being mass-produced by the administration, tenured professoriat, the UC administration, corporate America, and the media, the punishment for dissent is a clear danger at a time of widespread economic vulnerability. I am certain that if my name were attached to this email, I would lose my job and all future jobs, even though I believe in and can justify every word I type.

    The vast majority of violence visited on the black community is committed by black people. There are virtually no marches for these invisible victims, no public silences, no heartfelt letters from the UC regents, deans, and departmental heads. The message is clear: Black lives only matter when whites take them. Black violence is expected and insoluble, while white violence requires explanation and demands solution. Please look into your hearts and see how monstrously bigoted this formulation truly is.

    No discussion is permitted for nonblack victims of black violence, who proportionally outnumber black victims of nonblack violence. This is especially bitter in the Bay Area, where Asian victimization by black assailants has reached epidemic proportions, to the point that the SF police chief has advised Asians to stop hanging good-luck charms on their doors, as this attracts the attention of (overwhelmingly black) home invaders. Home invaders like George Floyd. For this actual, lived, physically experienced reality of violence in the USA, there are no marches, no tearful emails from departmental heads, no support from McDonald’s and Wal-Mart. For the History department, our silence is not a mere abrogation of our duty to shed light on the truth: it is a rejection of it.

    The claim that black intraracial violence is the product of redlining, slavery, and other injustices is a largely historical claim. It is for historians, therefore, to explain why Japanese internment or the massacre of European Jewry hasn’t led to equivalent rates of dysfunction and low SES performance among Japanese and Jewish Americans respectively. Arab Americans have been viciously demonized since 9/11, as have Chinese Americans more recently. However, both groups outperform white Americans on nearly all SES indices – as do Nigerian Americans, who incidentally have black skin. It is for historians to point out and discuss these anomalies. However, no real discussion is possible in the current climate at our department. The explanation is provided to us, disagreement with it is racist, and the job of historians is to further explore additional ways in which the explanation is additionally correct. This is a mockery of the historical profession.

    Most troublingly, our department appears to have been entirely captured by the interests of the Democratic National Convention, and the Democratic Party more broadly. To explain what I mean, consider what happens if you choose to donate to Black Lives Matter, an organization UCB History has explicitly promoted in its recent mailers. All donations to the official BLM website are immediately redirected to ActBlue Charities, an organization primarily concerned with bankrolling election campaigns for Democrat candidates. Donating to BLM today is to indirectly donate to Joe Biden’s 2020 campaign. This is grotesque given the fact that the American cities with the worst rates of black-on-black violence and police-on-black violence are overwhelmingly Democrat-run. Minneapolis itself has been entirely in the hands of Democrats for over five decades; the ‘systemic racism’ there was built by successive Democrat administrations.

    The patronizing and condescending attitudes of Democrat leaders towards the black community, exemplified by nearly every Biden statement on the black race, all but guarantee a perpetual state of misery, resentment, poverty, and the attendant grievance politics which are simultaneously annihilating American political discourse and black lives. And yet, donating to BLM is bankrolling the election campaigns of men like Mayor Frey, who saw their cities devolve into violence. This is a grotesque capture of a good-faith movement for necessary police reform, and of our department, by a political party. Even worse, there are virtually no avenues for dissent in academic circles. I refuse to serve the Party, and so should you.

    The total alliance of major corporations involved in human exploitation with BLM should be a warning flag to us, and yet this damning evidence goes unnoticed, purposefully ignored, or perversely celebrated. We are the useful idiots of the wealthiest classes, carrying water for Jeff Bezos and other actual, real, modern-day slavers. Starbucks, an organisation using literal black slaves in its coffee plantation suppliers, is in favor of BLM. Sony, an organisation using cobalt mined by yet more literal black slaves, many of whom are children, is in favor of BLM. And so, apparently, are we. The absence of counter-narrative enables this obscenity. Fiat lux, indeed.

    There also exists a large constituency of what can only be called ‘race hustlers’: hucksters of all colors who benefit from stoking the fires of racial conflict to secure administrative jobs, charity management positions, academic jobs and advancement, or personal political entrepreneurship.

    Given the direction our history department appears to be taking far from any commitment to truth, we can regard ourselves as a formative training institution for this brand of snake-oil salespeople. Their activities are corrosive, demolishing any hope at harmonious racial coexistence in our nation and colonizing our political and institutional life. Many of their voices are unironically segregationist.

    MLK would likely be called an Uncle Tom if he spoke on our campus today. We are training leaders who intend, explicitly, to destroy one of the only truly successful ethnically diverse societies in modern history. As the PRC, an ethnonationalist and aggressively racially chauvinist national polity with null immigration and no concept of jus solis increasingly presents itself as the global political alternative to the US, I ask you: Is this wise? Are we really doing the right thing?

    As a final point, our university and department has made multiple statements celebrating and eulogizing George Floyd. Floyd was a multiple felon who once held a pregnant black woman at gunpoint. He broke into her home with a gang of men and pointed a gun at her pregnant stomach. He terrorized the women in his community. He sired and abandoned multiple children, playing no part in their support or upbringing, failing one of the most basic tests of decency for a human being. He was a drug-addict and sometime drug-dealer, a swindler who preyed upon his honest and hard-working neighbors.

    And yet, the regents of UC and the historians of the UCB History department are celebrating this violent criminal, elevating his name to virtual sainthood. A man who hurt women. A man who hurt black women. With the full collaboration of the UCB history department, corporate America, most mainstream media outlets, and some of the wealthiest and most privileged opinion-shaping elites of the USA, he has become a culture hero, buried in a golden casket, his (recognized) family showered with gifts and praise. Americans are being socially pressured into kneeling for this violent, abusive misogynist. A generation of black men are being coerced into identifying with George Floyd, the absolute worst specimen of our race and species.

    I’m ashamed of my department. I would say that I’m ashamed of both of you, but perhaps you agree with me, and are simply afraid, as I am, of the backlash of speaking the truth. It’s hard to know what kneeling means, when you have to kneel to keep your job.

    It shouldn’t affect the strength of my argument above, but for the record, I write as a person of color. My family have been personally victimized by men like Floyd. We are aware of the condescending depredations of the Democrat party against our race. The humiliating assumption that we are too stupid to do STEM, that we need special help and lower requirements to get ahead in life, is richly familiar to us. I sometimes wonder if it wouldn’t be easier to deal with open fascists, who at least would be straightforward in calling me a subhuman, and who are unlikely to share my race.

    The ever-present soft bigotry of low expectations and the permanent claim that the solutions to the plight of my people rest exclusively on the goodwill of whites rather than on our own hard work is psychologically devastating. No other group in America is systematically demoralized in this way by its alleged allies. A whole generation of black children are being taught that only by begging and weeping and screaming will they get handouts from guilt-ridden whites.

    No message will more surely devastate their futures, especially if whites run out of guilt, or indeed if America runs out of whites. If this had been done to Japanese Americans, or Jewish Americans, or Chinese Americans, then Chinatown and Japantown would surely be no different to the roughest parts of Baltimore and East St. Louis today. The History department of UCB is now an integral institutional promulgator of a destructive and denigrating fallacy about the black race.

    I hope you appreciate the frustration behind this message. I do not support BLM. I do not support the Democrat grievance agenda and the Party’s uncontested capture of our department. I do not support the Party co-opting my race, as Biden recently did in his disturbing interview, claiming that voting Democrat and being black are isomorphic. I condemn the manner of George Floyd’s death and join you in calling for greater police accountability and police reform. However, I will not pretend that George Floyd was anything other than a violent misogynist, a brutal man who met a predictably brutal end.

    I also want to protect the practice of history. Cleo is no grovelling handmaiden to politicians and corporations. Like us, she is free.

    Reprinted in its entirety by Zero Hedge (emphasis Zero Hedge) via @tracybeanz:

    U.C. Berkeley’s history department issued a statement regarding the anonymous letter, and instead of addressing – or inviting a vigorous debate over its content, Berkeley’s response validates one of the letter’s core claims that dissent outside “a tightly policed, narrow discourse” is not welcome.

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    Quote Originally posted by Chester View Post
    Does he though?
    All the professor does is spew his own anger and frustration, he provides no proofs, no statistics, No semi-scientific rationale..
    All he does is using the same scare tactic as everyone is doing at the moment..
    The more I listen and talk to the differences between the BLM and the Anti BLM the more their "sameness" becomes clear.

    Ah well.
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    Quote Originally posted by Catsquotl View Post
    Does he though?
    All the professor does is spew his own anger and frustration, he provides no proofs, no statistics, No semi-scientific rationale..
    All he does is using the same scare tactic as everyone is doing at the moment..
    The more I listen and talk to the differences between the BLM and the Anti BLM the more their "sameness" becomes clear.

    Ah well.
    I posted the article for a reason... to point out how myopic it is... despite the many great points it makes. The problem is that all the good points have no shot to become a reality unless the entirety of the problem is understood and embraced for the fact of it.

    Consider the following:

    "The west" has a "business appendage" known is the pharmaceutical industry (and the overall "healthcare" industry). In its drive to find "remedies," "cures," even "vaccines." etc. they will make deals with "mafias disguised as governments" to run "trials" on human beings among their population.

    The actual bottom line common denominator of these human guinea pigs is their "vulnerability." But go to an externally observable common denominator and what you'll see is that it is the dark color of the skin of these human guinea pigs.

    Now look at "Wikipedia" (a sell out to "anti-soul forces") -

    Medical experimentation in Africa

    Notice how the examples are from more than twenty years ago. Does anyone actually think the accords put in place stopped these practices? Look at the lopsided plethora of advertising from the pharmaceutical and medical industries on all the mainstream media news channels. Look at the positioning of Wikipedia as "THE online encyclopedia for the world... all a play towards eventual massive monetization. No integrity - just narrative pushing. "We were bad but now we are good." Yeah, right.

    Now come back over to the "highly moral" USA -

    Though over 80 years ago - this, again, shows the "usage" of vulnerable human beings with the external common denominator, the color of their skin.

    Tuskegee syphilis experiment

    Since it was long enough ago, the information in this Wikipedia entry appears fairly accurate.

    But when you are a billionaire you can get away with this type of stuff... or is it really just because you are a billionaire? Could your "getting away with it" actually be because what you are doing is part of the grand plan of the primary occulted factions running this planet?

    Bill Gates - India and Africa... of course, "all that stuff was just rumors... debunked by "in the tank" fact check organizations -

    You KNOW the narrative is being desperately controlled when you see everything that pops up in Google's first page - when typing in "Bill gates vaccination experiments in India."

    https://www.google.com/search?source...4dUDCAg&uact=5

    Bill Gates Visits New Delhi Clinic To Encourage Final Push To Eradicate Polio (of course, put gatesfoundation.org FIRST)!

    Reuters: False claim: Bill Gates faces trial in India for testing vaccines on children

    The LOGICAL Indian: Fact Check: Were 496,000 Children In India Paralyzed Between 2000 & 2017 From "Bill Gates Polio Vaccine"?

    The Dispatch: Did Bill Gates Test Unapproved Vaccines on Children in Africa?

    NIH.gov: advertisement disguised as news

    again NIH.gov: advertisement disguised as news

    and finally, a "questioning" article from 2014 - The Economic Times: Controversial vaccine studies: Why is Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation under fire from critics in India? Read more at:

    Then back to narrative control -

    news18.com: Fact Check: Bill Gates's Foundation Did Not Paralyse Children While Testing Polio Vaccine in India

    politifact.com: The Gates Foundation "tested a polio vax in India between 2000 & 2017 and paralysed 496,000 children."

    Then another advertisement - for the GAVI Alliance (formerly The Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunisation)

    And that concludes Google's page one...


    Now here's a lesson to the less experienced "reader" that may read my post. In today's world, to get to anywhere near the truth, you have to be your own investigative journalist. In addition, you have to recognize that when you are pushed hard into forming an opinion and you are not provided information that points to an alternative view, especially when that alternative view may hold equal (or in some cases, more weight), you should understand that there's a reason "they" want you to think and conclude as the average, rather trusting, rather innocent, far less experienced (or perhaps sheltered) vulnerable will think and conclude.

    Your thinking is being manufactured. It is done to hide the true agendas. In addition, these narratives are designed to manufacture consent. Your consent. Your consent, for example, to discard natural health applications, especially those that lie outside "the material" world view (the primary narrative so desperately pushed) like "energetics," like "holistic," like "plant based," like psychotheraputics that includes "sub-personality creation via trauma experiences, past life trauma carryover, entity interference at all levels and forms of manifestation," like emotional healing modalities which result in higher vibrational emotions flowing through us in our world and through society.

    Not only can't the medical mafia make much money via treatment approaches noted in the above list, the freedom gained by each individual... freedom at the every level of their being, especially their soul where their spirit can soar... those who control our world in every way possible, risk losing control once enough of us awaken to our true power - not power of this world, but the power of a soul unfettered.

    And this is why it is, to me, important the world recognize that unless the true, global and inter-generational trauma experienced by blacks be understood... the 'race wars' will continue and grow.

    I repeat -

    And this is why it is, to me, important the world recognize that unless the true, global and inter-generational trauma experienced by blacks be understood... the 'race wars' will continue and grow.

    And all that I wrote above is simple one form of this racism and the obvious collective trauma that has been produced. The entire global population really has to grasp this and understand the depth of this trauma. That would be a true, deep empathy and would only be the first step, albeit a must first step, in humanity moving to another level. If this is not universally taken, things will only get worse (and they can) and we will all pay dearly.
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    I feel to apoligise on behalf of many members here Chestor, some are simply caught up in old/ancestor/past life maybe/dated/sabatage n self/etc?, though i do not agree with all you have gifted on this thread i at least absorb before comment, some of your data above is xlent red pill material indeed, lol to the point where some may go, nope did not read that OH shiney thing over there, feel to also say well done and great to see such a positive vibe with your gifting here. Thankyou

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    Ok, So what do you wise men propose we do?

    It's all fun and games it seems to intellectualize all that is wrong in the world and how people are being duped to pick a side without ample information.
    But if we are going to look at history and how the media and the money flows in certain ways. It seems the only viable sollution would be to kill yourself and you families to leave the shitshow here on earth.

    Or we could just Reiki the shit out of everyone, sing kumbaya at the fire pit and wait until they come to drag us to the battery plant.

    AH well..
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    I'm not into picking sides. It's destructive. We have 350 million here and 6 billion on the rest of the planet. Dividing ourselves here and picking sides is horrendously stupid.

    The rich will continue to take and take while the remainder of folks fight foolish battles.

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    People always seem to forget that there is only one humanity, yet we divide ourselves into different tribes.

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    Quote Originally posted by Catsquotl View Post
    Ok, So what do you wise men propose we do?

    It's all fun and games it seems to intellectualize all that is wrong in the world and how people are being duped to pick a side without ample information.
    But if we are going to look at history and how the media and the money flows in certain ways. It seems the only viable sollution would be to kill yourself and you families to leave the shitshow here on earth.

    Or we could just Reiki the shit out of everyone, sing kumbaya at the fire pit and wait until they come to drag us to the battery plant.

    AH well..
    Since there are no takers here's a well thought out thorough response.
    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmgxtcbc4iU
    Have a great day today

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